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Avoid Disaster, Get Out of U.S. Assets: Peter Schiff

If you own dollar-denominated assets, then you're a fool. It's really that simple in the black and white world of American fatalism that is the trademark thesis of Peter Schiff, the CEO of Euro Pacific Capital.

"Unfortunately, because we raised the debt ceiling, because we continue to spend money, the cost of government is going to be born by those foolish enough to hold U.S. currency," Schiff tells Breakout.

In fact, as much as the Wall Street pundits may attack him, Schiff's longstanding affection for gold and other non-U.S. assets has served him well. Accordingly, there's no strategic shift in sight from the man who's says economic Armageddon will come because the debt ceiling was raised, not because it (almost) wasn't.

"You can't have a portfolio that's entirely gold and silver, and we don't," Schiff says, then lists foreign stocks, non-dollar denominated bonds, commodities and currencies as alternatives. But his go-to favorite, gold, still holds a special place in his heart and has lots more room to rise.

"If you look at the value of U.S. stocks in terms of gold, the Dow peaked in 2000 at about 43 ounces. We're now at barely 7 ounces of gold for the Dow [7 x $1650 = 11,550]. Ultimately, I think we see that ratio come down closer to 1 to 1," he says. That would require either much more Dow decline, a lot more gold gains, or some combination of the two.

Just playing with some numbers here, if gold and the Dow Industrials both had 75% respective gains and losses from their current levels (approx. $1650/11,550), we'd be looking at $2887 to reach a 1-to-1 Gold-to-DJIA ratio. You can run your own scenarios, but the mere thought of that is chilling.

So what do you do?

"There are a lot of ways to protect yourself from this disaster that awaits the U.S.," Schiff says. While he thinks "the U.S. is in more serious trouble right now than Europe," he says Europeans should likewise divest themselves of their currency. "There are a lot of currencies you can own to get out of the dollar without being in the euro," and Switzerland, Norway, Sweden, China, Singapore, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are suitable alternatives.

Additionally, Schiff's inflationary outlook supports owning oil, agricultural commodities and industrial metals. "If the global economy is doing well, commodities are going to rise. There are a lot of commodity shortages and they will do well because governments will continue to create inflation. They're going to keep on printing money, so commodities will rise."

To that effect, Schiff also asserts that "QE3 is coming. In fact, it might already be here. The Fed might have launched it in secret and we'll find out about it [later]."

Finally, Schiff isn't waiting for forecast revisions and slumping GDP results to confirm what he already knows. "We're back in recession. What are they [the Fed] gonna do? That's all they know -- to print money. Unfortunately, that's the source of our problems. It's like trying to put a fire out with gasoline. It's not going to work, but they keep putting more gasoline on it because that's all they know."

Is Schiff right? Is it time to bail on America or time to load the boat?

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398 comments

  • Kind Word  •  9 months ago
    US, EU n JAPAN, the 3 major power houses are all at risk of recession, China export will slow down, when China property bubble bust n economy plunge into severe recession, the world economy will get into deep n prolong recession.
    • b 9 months ago
      You mean, dah, DAH.........a depression?
    • .50 Sniper 9 months ago
      It could happen.
    • LongTime shareholder 9 months ago
      but china fix with clear and fast decision.No need publicised debt and congress LIVE show . call Self inflicted wound.
  • cootiegiver  •  9 months ago
    The problem is that there are limited choices for you to put your 401k money into. You have a choice of about 15 funds, most of which are US funds. There are a couple foreign stock funds, but even the foreign stock funds tend to invest in companies that are either US companies with foreign exposure or foreign companies with US exposure. And they like to hedge out the currency risk so that if the dollar declines, you don't get the benefit of having chosen a foreign fund.
    • NJS 9 months ago
      Yes, there is a reason why all the funds in a 401K are mostly benchmarked to the S&P500 with no kind of inverse funds or other alternatives available. Youre only option on flexibility is if youre lucky enough to have a self-directed option in your plan, of which mine costs me extra money to use it.
    • Jack 9 months ago
      You can purchase hundreds of funds in your 401K. You can also purchase gold in the form of GLD. Move your 401K to a better brokerage account.
    • JazzHarper 9 months ago
      No, many 401k plans still only offer a limited set of proprietary funds. If you're still with that employer, you don't really have an option to roll it over into an IRA that you can direct. However, check with your plan administrator--they may have an option to convert your 401k into a "self-directed 401k", which basically gives you a brokerage account within the 401k. Many plan administrators offer this option, but don't inform employees about it AT ALL. You have to ask.
  • Just Slightly INSANE  •  9 months ago
    Finally someone speaks the truth.
  • NothingYet  •  9 months ago
    The saving grace for the US is that there is still no replacement for the US dollar.

    However, on the day that one will surface, the US will be in real trouble.
    • f b 9 months ago
      meh china is an evironmental calamity waiting to happen.. and europe? meh 1 thousand years of bad blood will prevent them from pulling their crap together.. dollar will remain reserve. im thinking more like commodities like copper and corn.
    • TF 9 months ago
      it's called precious metals and commodities
    • Just Old Me 9 months ago
      No matter what the sales job elephant ears does the dollar can fail why do you think rating agency's have us on watch list warnings from Russia and China Our president is destroying savings and the dollar and they claims he loves our country hate to see what he would do if he hated us !
  • Maloogie  •  9 months ago
    If I were you, I'd be scared Schiffless.
  • Scott  •  9 months ago
    He is selling his book.

    Yes, collapse is coming - but why do anything other than hold hard assets (particularly gold & silver) if that is the case?

    There is little protection to be had in investing in the securities of underpopulated, resource-rich nations that will be occupied by Russia & China once the USA has exited the world stage as a power.
    • Yah 9 months ago
      Energy holdings first, that is why he was very quiet about it.
    • andy 9 months ago
      Then... why not buy China? I like the China RTO space. It's not for the faint of heart though, what with the all the accusations of fraud that have been flying around. But now, the dust has finally settled. There are a whole lot of extremely undervalued stocks in that sector with good bottom-line growth rates.

      I like to think that there was an anti-China RTO bubble, it literally drove the whole market to absurdly low prices. If I'm right, then there's a whole lot of money to be made. Well, that's my 2-cents.
    • TechDave 9 months ago
      Collapse is unlikely. Peter has been right about gold and $, but it's always wrong to assume trends will go forever. Our best defense now is the election, which will temper the socialist instincts of our rulers for a while. I'm betting tax cuts in 2012 and a boom in business and hiring. And selling his book is reasonable. Better to have guests discuss something the know about.
  • shelly  •  9 months ago
    Peter Schiff is the Ron Paul of the financial world. Everyone thinks he's crazy, no matter how many times he's proven to be right.
    • .50 Sniper 9 months ago
      He has always been right.
    • shelly 9 months ago
      Indeed he has. Which is why it's alarming how many fools are commenting what an idiot Schiff is. FYI, Schiff was an economic advisor to Ron Paul's campaign in 2008. Remember when everyone was laughing at Paul's predictions and how all of them have come to pass? This is no different. Everyone has they preconceived notions...not their own...only what the MSM feeds them...that the dollar crisis doesn't exist.
    • DanP 9 months ago
      I like him an believe what he says but he told the same story 500 S&P points ago. You would have missed a two year rally if you never got back in
  • E.S.  •  9 months ago
    He is right about gold approaching $2000 so far (with skeptisism and mockery from Fast Money folks over the last one year)
  • 2012change  •  9 months ago
    They say get into gold but how? How does the average Jos buy gold? Cant get the hard stuff so do you go with gold companies?
  • Bubblepuppy  •  9 months ago
    I can't afford to buy even one ounce of gold. I guess I'm screwed.
  • Charlie  •  9 months ago
    Our destiny has been decided. We will continue to print currency and borrow until our final and total collapse to a 3rd world status in a few years. Here's my action plan: Pay off my mortgage, stay completely out of debt, invest in commodities and out of the stock market.
  • Dave K  •  9 months ago
    I'm sorry but there is no place to hide, better learn to speak Chinese.
  • PerryC  •  9 months ago
    You guys think he is crazy-insane, but so far he's been right. And now, central bankers are following his lead too, lol!
  • Anonymous  •  9 months ago
    Schiff hasn't been wrong yet...
  • Tammy  •  9 months ago
    How can people say he's been wrong? Hasn't he been calling the commodities bull run for years now. How that stock market doing over the last ten years vs. gold (or corn or silver)?

    Go back in time to 2002 when he started predicting the crash. buy the DOW or buy gold and see which one made you more money (it's not even a contest)
  • Billy Bob  •  9 months ago
    Gold as a medium of exchange?.....anybody know what the stuff tastes like?
  • A Yahoo! User  •  9 months ago
    He raises the same concerns I've had for several months. We shot ourselves in the foot by raising the debt ceiling WITHOUT addressing the deficit spending in any significant way. I wish the US would be unable to line up borrowers so the focus would immediately shift to putting our financial house in order.
  • Rick  •  9 months ago
    Interesting information, but not helpful for the 75% or more of Americans whose only investments are in retirement accounts and, therefore, are unable to invest directly in commodities or currencies. What is the 'average Joe' supposed to do?
  • Paul  •  9 months ago
    Bullets are the MOST precious asset to own. If there is an economic Armageddon, then what fool thinks that gold will be usable? There will be a breakdown of society as we know it, along with total civil unrest. When people are hungry, who cares about gold? Those with bullets will be able to get food and take your gold!
  • vincent  •  9 months ago
    1) America, can survive without the rest of the world, its has just about all it needs, maybe a little short on oil.
    2) China is not a threat, its bleeding edge 4 years behind Europe and the states , where it buys its production lines.
    3) The only threat to USA is LACK OF INVENTION ! and CEOs who focus on 4 month reporting, instead of the long term plan.
    4) BRIC will grow exponentially - and it deserves its chance, most moneys going there, its softer gain and lower risk than investing in vetus frugalitas (old economy).
    5) Money follows the fastest ground, as a oriental philosopher once said - the sea remain masters of the rivers clouds, streams and lakes , only because it remains below them

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