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Debt Gridlock! Wall Street on Edge as Default & Downgrade Loom

Financial markets have ignored the U.S. debt debate for long enough, and today we're seeing the first signs that failure to reach a deal on Capitol Hill will not be well-received.

Wall Street is watching as debt talks hit the skids again over the weekend. To be clear, there are two debates that the street needs resolution on: Raising the $14.3 Trillion debt ceiling by August 2nd, and agreeing on a package of spending cuts. Both conversations between Democrats and Republicans now seem as far from compromise as ever.

Government spending cuts must be deep enough to slow our skyrocketing debt-to-GDP ratio to avoid a downgrade of our nation's AAA credit rating according to Dan Clifton, Head of Policy Research at Strategas. America is in a fight to stave off default and a credit downgrade.

"Just a few years ago we had a 30% debt-to-GDP ratio that's going to be 70% this year, and it's quickly moving up to that danger range of 85 — 90%. So S&P has been very much warning that not only do you have to raise the debt ceiling to insure that interest payments are made, but you also have to start getting your fiscal situation under control with a package of about $4 Trillion (in cuts). And so there's two types of downgrades sitting on the horizon," warns Clifton. (Note: Greece's debt-to-GDP ratio is 143%!)

As Jeff Macke points out, the ratings agencies - Moody's and Standard & Poors - are finally getting it right by warning that BOTH raising the debt ceiling and cuts must take place (and he's certainly not one to praise our debt raters as we learned earlier this month on Breakout)!

Not everyone sees the debt-to-GDP ratio as alarming. But this is where the point of contention exists among lawmakers. This is where austerity may finally enter America.

Investors are worried and Clifton says they're asking questions about what will bring on a downgrade. If we cut below $4 Trillion in spending now, will we still be downgraded?

Clifton says, "there's a great degree of uncertainty around that. If you do get a downgrade, think of the impact that will have. You'll also be downgrading a lot of State and local governments… There's pretty wide implications if we get there."

So, hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

Macke says "if we do get a rating downgrade, all the credit in the world is going to price differently because of that; because all the credit starts from the safest risk-free assets and works backwards into the risky ones."

So which sectors will take a hit?

For starters, it would hit housing and any market dependent on credit. Clifton says "you have a number of sectors that can be getting hit from the credit downgrade and hit from the austerity… There's a discretionary spending cap that would go into place."

Basically all sectors that fall under discretionary spending (spending allocated at lawmakers' discretion) could be negatively impacted, "whether that's Transportation, whether that's Education, whether that's Defense, whether that's Healthcare, it's all going to have to fight for that smaller level of appropriation," says Clifton.

While Washington's banter at times sounds childlike -- who walked out on who, etc.-- there is a lot at stake for Americans. We are not in the midst of a minor debate here. And while an August 3rd sans debt deal will not bring financial armageddeon, we are in a battle to save our fiscal integrity.

Can DC save the day? Let us know what you think in the comments section below.

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203 comments

  • Rob  •  10 months ago
    Our lawmakers are clueless....they are all fithy rich and have pension and health plans like no one else. They do not understand want the average person/family must deal with to make ends meet.
    • Jerry Brickley 10 months ago
      You're breaking my heart. Tell me again why your problems should be a part of public policy.
    • Joe 10 months ago
      ha....like working a 38hr week and spending every single cent you have? i bet it is tough...
    • MakeSense 10 months ago
      I'll tell you: because it is the atrocious public policy of the past 25 years that caused the gross inequities in wealth and income and budget deficits. And the idiotic public policy that devotes >22% of the federal budget towards "defense" spending.
  • Daemonicus  •  10 months ago
    Washington cannot save us. They cannot even save themselves.

    Everything that is happening now was completely predictable.
    • Nancy 10 months ago
      "Washington".. all the denizens of that corrupt animal pen.... have LONG SINCE "saved themselves".... What are you? Deaf dumb and blind?....
      .
      Observe, if you will, THE LIFESTYLE of the "politicians"...... fine food, fine wine, private jet transportation WITHOUT sexual molestation of the TSA.... frolic on the white sand beaches of Spain with FOURTY of their friends for a week on your money....
      .... And that is only scratching the surface.... check out their ADMITTED.. (probably nowhere near the truth) net worth... and the companies they OWN and profit from... Can you say "Chicken of the Sea" ???
      .
      NOw check out your own economic status? How much MONEY do YOU have in the bank... what stocks and bonds do YOU own.... what does your abode look like and who owns it? You or the bank?...... How expensive and expansive was YOUR vacation... the last one you took, and how long ago was THAT?...
      .
      WAKE UP...... they "saved themselves" every step of the way, as they stepped on YOUR head to do it.
  • John  •  10 months ago
    The end of 'Live now, pay later.' Post WWII American economic dominance officially ends on Aug. 2
    • E Pluribus Unum 10 months ago
      It's about time, if they can't afford it don't buy it.
    • Michael G 10 months ago
      You actually believe that? I'm betting if there's no deal we will just see a repeat of 1970's double digit inflation while to gov't cranks up the money presses....Hope not, but I'm not holding my breath.
  • eddie  •  10 months ago
    Why doesn't congress cut their on pay. A 3000 dollar raise a couple months ago was very inappropriate. Wish I could spend my way out of debt. It don't work.
    • w 10 months ago
      unfortunately that wouldn't even pay the interest for one minute.
  • Mule Headed  •  10 months ago
    Amazing how docile the American Public is. High unemployment, debt crisis, lost entitlements and never ending wars. How come we are not marching on D.C.?
    Reduce their benefits.
    • Mike55 10 months ago
      It is because we are still better than anywhere else. But it is not like there are no protests. Look a little closer. The Tea Party is marching on DC.
    • Toadaly 10 months ago
      In general, Americans are fat, dumb, and lazy. It's amazing the US hasn't already imploded.
    • JeeperzKreeperz 10 months ago
      we dont have the money to stop and protest it.
  • foxyfish  •  10 months ago
    Reinstate the Uptick Rule to contain the abusive short selling, and our corporations will be back in business. STOP rewarding the illegal immigrants for putting a huge burden on our system. Increase tariffs on Imports. No big deal to put a penny gasoline tax on. That would be for starters. Next?
  • A Yahoo! User  •  10 months ago
    here's an idea- let's start building america back! Too much Govt waste and it continues to get worse! End the War, utilize these funds to balance the budget and get rid of those reponsible for wasted funds and needless program. Need to focus putting America back to work!
  • steve k  •  10 months ago
    I only wish they hadn't lied to me so much when I was a kid - now I wouldn't be so disillusioned over the fact that there are no statesmen nor patriots running our country.
  • Billy  •  10 months ago
    America's Epitaph
    GREED TRUMPS CAPITALISM
  • B Salvin  •  10 months ago
    why don't all these wealthy lawmakers forgo all their own government benefits and salaries for the next year. that would be a show of real understanding and commitment of this issue....
  • Aliento de Queso  •  10 months ago
    US debt to gdp is about 95% already. not 70%.
  • Display Name  •  10 months ago
    I picture the top-level Chinese communists sitting in a sound-proofed room with a power-point presentation from 1999 - Congratulating each other for winning the war without a single shot fired. During the power-point, emphasis was put on the "party first" mentality of the American politician - the capitalism at all costs philosophy of Wall Street. There were several references to Goldman Sachs as being the tumor that would tip the scales for the downfall of the greatest Superpower on Earth.
    Bowls of dumplings and crispy duck served with bottles of expensive champagne…Big toothy, Chinese grins… A calendar on the wall published tomorrow’s topic: Spratly Islands Africa and South America.
  • William  •  10 months ago
    It'd be nice to have that 4 trillion wasted on Iraq,Afghanistan and now Libya.Let's face it,we were attacked by a bunch of thugs with box cutters not an entire country.Amazing how history keeps repeating itself.
  • BP  •  10 months ago
    Taxpayers = Pigeons
  • Steve  •  10 months ago
    Expect stocks to be down 1% every day all week until the bozos get it right in d.c.
  • Common Sense  •  10 months ago
    Anything less than a 12.5% cut in federal expenditures should produce a cut in the debt rating of the Treasury. A 15% cut will produce a budget surplus by 2017 and will eliminate publicly held Treasury debt in 50 years. Anything less will result in the insolvency of the Treasury. Way to go Tiny Tim.
  • Barton  •  10 months ago
    Do you solve a debt problem by increasing your debt?
  • David  •  10 months ago
    We could start buying what we make, what an economic boost. what a Revenue increase.
    Who needs a tax increase.
    Tax everything coming into the US, who needs a tax increase.
    Close all tax breaks. No need for tax increase.
    Close most foigen bases.
    Stop most all aid.
  • jo66  •  10 months ago
    I hope all read this carefully and understand that the debate is not just about raising the debt ceiling but cutting the hyper growth of spending.
  • DB-INDY  •  10 months ago
    If he doesn't start leading, the first 1/2 white president may be our last President. Along with his democrat minions, he has spent us into oblivion.

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