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A Down Stock Market Guarantees Obama Will Lose in 2012: Robert Prechter

Another nasty showdown finally ends on Capitol Hill after House Republicans caved into rising political pressure and accepted the Senate's very short-term bill to extend the 2% payroll tax cut for working Americans. Amazingly, most members of Congress weren't even in Washington, DC for this latest battle; they were already home for the holidays after closing out 2011 on a low note.

Needless to say, the New Year promises to bring more contentious battles including, well, the very same payroll tax cut which was only extended for two months, the $1.2 Trillion in automatic deficit cuts (remember the Super Committee failure?), the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, the fate of Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, a Supreme Court ruling on the constitutionality of Obamacare, and efforts to weaken Dodd-Frank financial reforms. All this as a potentially monumental presidential election cycle kicks into overdrive.

So what does this all mean for investors?

"A lot of people look to elections to try to decide which way the stock market is going; I think that's a logical way to think—mechanical causality," says Robert Prechter, founder and president of Elliott Wave International. "Mine is the opposite, I look for mood as the major cause."

And Americans are in no mood for political bickering. Congress literally closed out this year on a dour note; with a historically low, record-breaking 11% approval rating according to the latest Gallup poll. The legislative branch earned its contempt.

As for President Obama, his stock is rising. A CNN-ORC poll shows the president's approval rating bounced to 49%, the highest level since May when Osama bin Laden was killed.

And of course, the stock market votes everyday on policies and business events. Price action can tell you a lot about policy approval, and perhaps even more.

"We think the stock market actually is a better predictor of who's going to win the election, than the election is of where the stock market is going," Prechter contends. "This coming year, if my scenario works out, stocks are likely to be lower. And if that's true, the incumbent is likely to be thrown out, not be reelected."

It's tough to tell what 2012 holds, particularly when we still can't predict whether the broader stock market will end 2011 in positive territory. This one is truly coming down to the wire.

According to Bob Prechter's analysis, the market is in a major topping process, or what he calls a "grand super cycle top, bigger than in 1929." Therefore his outlook for stocks next year is gruesome, to put it softly.

"A down market is pretty much a guarantee that the current incumbent will not stay in (office). If it's an up market, and I'm wrong, then he's likely to be reelected," he says.

Only time will tell. But in the meantime, some parting advice: "Be safe, be cautious, don't join any of these bubbles and run-ups because you're going to have a terrific buying opportunity about four or five years from now," says Prechter.

Do you think the market is signaling President Obama is toast in 2012? Let us know in the comment section below or visit us on Facebook.

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  • Super  •  Pleasanton, California  •  4 months ago
    If we take managing the country as a business, and the politicians who manage the business of a country as the business men, then the American politicians are the worst business managers around the world who managed the country from 4% of unemployment to 20+% unemployment, and a budget surplus in 2000 to a business with $1T of deficit and $15T trillions of debt jn 2011, within 11 years. Managing a country from the richest one to a country with $15T of debt within 11 years. Started two wars in 8 years and ended up with $1T of deficit spending for the wars and ended up with a shameful failure and more than 20 thousand of US soldiers died in the war in vain
    • endless 4 months ago
      People please you keep blaming Obama for this mess that was created by the bush administration. Second, republicans have done nothing in over 3 years to help the country back on its feet. They took control of the house 2 years ago and still offered no job programs to date THEY are still fighting abortion and trying to undo all the progress we have made.
    • whatever 4 months ago
      Hey Endless, Do some research before you post. The republicans took control of the house just 1 year ago.
      If you think that government is the entity that creates jobs then you are going to be waiting a long time for either party to do this. You are in for a lifetime of disappointment.
    • Anon 4 months ago
      Hey, Whatever: Do some research before you post. The republicans have been obstructionists for their own self-serving political motives since they came to town. As for private industry job creation, don't look to the financial industry. Their loathsome, self-serving actions cost millions of jobs and nearly sent the global economy into depression. AND, you're obviously into a life of self-delusion if you think otherwise.
  • Gary  •  4 months ago
    Can we waterboard all these useless,overpaid ANALysts?
  • farmer  •  4 months ago
    Stock Market Gurus don't die... they just have seven lives ... even after being wrong time after time after time.
  • nonia  •  Ventura, California  •  4 months ago
    Why would anyone listen to this fool 'Robert Prechter', if he is such a genius he would not be peddling his products, just making $ for himself and staying quiet -below the radar. All these 'gurus' are a joke by stating that there is a 50/50 chance of having a new President -read between the lines- he verifies that no one knows or can know of a credible answer/prediction. "Even a broken clock is correct twice a day". Market advisers and model developers are just as knowledgeable about the markets and politics as my 2 year old.
    • Fd 4 months ago
      This makes sense, the 2 year old is hired.
    • Yahoo 4 months ago
      You sound angry. Instead of taking shots at others, why don't you work on developing your own area of expertise. You'll be happier.
    • Ken Umbach -- KenInSacto 4 months ago
      Prechter's predictions should be labeled "for entertainment purposes only." Sometimes he is right, I suppose, but sometimes a stopped clock is right, too.
  • Common Sense  •  St Louis, Missouri  •  5 months ago
    Congress 11% approval rating....I guess we'll have to start going to a DIS-approval rating soon.
    • G 4 months ago
      What's sad about this country is that you would think that only 11% of the current congressional makeup will survive, but what are the chances that 95% of current elected representative will be re-elected. I say 100% chance!
    • Meca-leca-hi-meca-hiney-h ... 4 months ago
      November 2012 - operation Iranian freedom.
    • Cindy 4 months ago
      I bet the approval rating for financial analysts is even lower than 11%. If they know so much why did our economy collapse?
  • JGalt  •  5 months ago
    This is totally bizarre, but nowhere on Yahoo! Finance is the news that 2011 is on track to be the worst year in home sales since 1963. It must strictly be an oversight and only due to the fact that the AP released the news on the Friday before a holiday weekend when nobody's paying attention.

    I am.

    And so should you.
    • A Yahoo! User 5 months ago
      I think these people at Yahoo are pretty much out of touch with reality, they live in a little world of electron and CRAP
    • Allen 5 months ago
      the ABC(All Baroke Channel) does not want ANY negative spin that might hurt their boy!
    • xtra 4 months ago
      then thre ones that did sell were counted 4 times, and at a price one eigth the last sale prices.????????
  • Peter  •  Union, New Jersey  •  5 months ago
    He won nobel prize. Anybody remembers why?
    • R.Way 5 months ago
      Peace prize. As junior Senator from the "land of Vote Early and Often", he kept Illinois safe from those Canadian Terrorists, foiling their every dastardly attempt to create terror in the Flatulent, make that, Windy City, eh?
    • Obama Food Stamps 5 months ago
      For bombing Iraq, bombing Afghanistan and for bombing Libya.
    • South Carolina 4 months ago
      Because he is half black
  • anonymous  •  4 months ago
    What a statement? "You're going to have a great buying opportunity in 4 to 5 yrs?" Without question one of the most absurd statements I've ever heard. No one knows what the market will do in the next month and this fool makes a statement like this. Where do they get these people and who would listen to such garbage?
  • Super  •  Pleasanton, California  •  4 months ago
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    If we take managing the country as a business, and the politicians who manage the business of a country as the business men, then the American politicians are the worst business managers around the world who managed the country from 4% of unemployment to 20+% unemployment, and a budget surplus in 2000 to a business with $1T of deficit and $15T trillions of debt jn 2011, within 11 years. Managing a country from the richest one to a country with $15T of debt within 11 years. Started two wars in 8 years and ended up with $1T of deficit spending for the wars and ended up with a shameful failure and more than 20 thousand of US soldiers died in the war in vain
    ****************************************************
    Besides the above, American suffered the most in the past 10 years, under the Bush adminiostration and under whose watch the financial crisis started in 2008, more than four millions houses have been foreclosed , millions of American have lost their homes , and half of the population of the nation now live under proverty , America fell from the richest country into the secondary country even though the administration does not like to confess , but that is the fact , every country around the world knows it by heart, as a result, America started to lose its alliance, partners around the world, US became the symbol of war, disaster, invation, destruction, whereever US put its hands on, people suffered, it means killing, destruction, destruction
  • Tony  •  St Louis, Missouri  •  5 months ago
    Why is this clown still around and WHY does he continue to garner publicity? I first came aware of Robert back in 1987 with his wave theory. He has been wrong ever since. How does this clown support himself? Can I have the number of his media relations firm? I have some ice cream I'd like to sell to weight watchers.
  • Carmen  •  5 months ago
    Remember how when Bush was President, the media was constantly focused on the debt with the debt counter being displayed nonstop? Suddenly with the election of Obama you'd be hard pressed to find any mention of our national debt in the media, despite having added an all-time historic $5 Trillion in new debt since Obama has been President. No worries, Obama says that continued high unemployment is the result of ATM machines and other technological advances. He's so smart.
  • CV  •  Irvine, California  •  4 months ago
    As long as O'Bama can keep printing money and be giving it to the bankers for free to play the market, the market will stay at this magic line of 12,000. Take away the free money, market goes right down to 7,500 or lower. There is no mystery here.
  • Savjack  •  Richmond Hill, Georgia  •  4 months ago
    Yes Sirree...the community organizer...is showing us his organizing skills.....by taking America down the tubes.
  • al  •  Sun Prairie, Wisconsin  •  4 months ago
    Isn't this the same guy that was once or twice on the Louis Rukeyser Wall Street show and
    Rukeyser discredited him and his theories? Is this some more of that cropping up again after all these years ? Where are the financial journalists that would take him to task? Sure miss Louis Rukeyser's insights!
  • Mountain Dan  •  Yuba City, California  •  4 months ago
    Yep, that's why Obama is Killing the US Dollar..... So it Looks like the "Market" is High!!!
  • Pirate  •  Cleveland, Ohio  •  5 months ago
    What if everyone who comments on news blogs had to prove that what they say is true?
  • MichaelF  •  Toledo, Ohio  •  5 months ago
    what crap!!!
  • No_Leaders_in_Sight  •  4 months ago
    Which is why QE3 in 2012 will make the earlier versions pale
  • Lumberjack  •  New Orleans, Louisiana  •  4 months ago
    Why would anyone listen to this fool? When he's right, which is seldom, it is pure happenstance. Even worse, why would anyone heed the posters on Yahoo? Americans are the intellectual dregs of the earth, badly educated or uneducated, but nevertheless with strident opinions they're always ready to share. What a screwed-up country.
  • richard  •  4 months ago
    the only losers are the people

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