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Obama Budget Battle Will Kill 2012 Market Rally: Kleintop

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The President of the United States delivered a $3.8 trillion Federal budget proposal today that for the fourth year in a row outspends the nation's projected tax receipts by at least 25%. Although the projected deficit for fiscal year 2013 is "down" to $900 billion from $1.4 trillion a year ago, this election year package of tax increases and spending cuts is being attacked from all sides.

Even before the ink had dried, Republicans were calling it a "completely political document," while White House aides fired back, arguing that now is not the time for austerity.

Jeff Kleintop, chief market strategist at LPL Financial calls it the toughest collection of tax hikes and spending cuts since 1947. "This is brutal," he says of the President's plan, "this is a blunt instrument being directed at the economy."

In fact, without big changes (that are widely seen as politically unlikely this year) Kleintop says the estimated impact of a $500 billion or 3.5% hit to the economy could push the country back into recession next year.

Highlights of the plan (or lowlights, depending on your point of view) include the expiration of the so-called Bush tax cuts, as well as the stratification of the capital gains tax, that would reduce or eliminate it for lower income households, while raising it for those who earn more than a million dollars a year, taking it from 15% to as much as 39.6% - the proposed new top bracket for ordinary income.

While a majority of the reductions were mandatory and predetermined by both last year's budget agreement and the failed negotiations of the "Super Committee," defense spending is set to take some of the largest hits, at nearly $500 billion over the next decade.

What is clear is that even if fairly rosy economic goals are met, Americans shouldn't expect to see a balanced budget at least for another decade, and probably even longer. With interest payments and entitlement spending currently accounting for 64% of federal spending, that leaves a small slice of the pie that can even actually be targeted for belt tightening.

"We're a bit worried about the outlook for profits and the economy as we look out 12 months from now ," Kleintop says, adding that other than an extension of the payroll tax cuts that are currently pending, Congress will be unable and/or unwilling to avert this looming hit to the economy during an all-important election year.

Do you think the need to balance the budget and pay down the debt is more important than keeping the economy from slipping back in to recession?

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  • Larry  •  3 months ago
    quit calling my social security an entitlement. being self employed, i paid a lot of money in. if this money had been in ira or mutual funds, i would be a hell of a lot better off.
    • Q 3 months ago
      I could have paid off my home a lot sooner with an extra 6.2% income available. I couild have taken out a 15 -yr. loan instead of a 30-yr. Yes do pay. "Entitlement" is the way commies (famous for coopting vernacular) try to get you to feel sorry for welfare bums.
    • robert 3 months ago
      Don't forget...when Bush left office...10 years of market gains were gone! It's only under Obama that the market has come back.
    • Langston Hughes 3 months ago
      Robert....Pull your head outta your backside. You're smothering yourself.
  • Michael  •  3 months ago
    doesn't it strike you as odd that all the solutions to the greek debt problems appear to be directly opposite of what the administration and congress appear to be doing here? good for them, but not for us, at least not yet... we propose budgets with 10 year projections and nobody is elected for a 10 year term, why bother?
    • HK357 3 months ago
      No, that is actually not odd at all. Greece simply has no money and to get any loans from creditors, they are forced to follow austerity or they get no loans. Their people hardly pay any taxes so they have tiny revenues. People evade taxes in general and they have no real economy so it is nothing like the US.
    • midnighteye 3 months ago
      Greece should leave the Euro and the EU. All the highest gdp/per capita countries are small and independent, so the argument that she cannot survive outside the European monster is totally false. I hope the whole pile of socialist dung collapses to the benefit of its constituents, actually Greece is the most socialist country in the EU, so it's not surprising that it is earliest failure.
    • Somebody Else 3 months ago
      We can print money -- Greece can't.
  • MICHAEL  •  Augusta, Georgia  •  3 months ago
    The guys in congress have too much invested in the market to go through. Of course watch for Bacchus to put some shorts in.
  • Harry  •  Prince Frederick, Maryland  •  3 months ago
    You want a little tax fairness, Barry? How about requiring the 47% of the nation that pays no taxes to start paying??
    • EDWARD M 3 months ago
      They don't have to pay anything because they support Obama!
    • Yu b da Fool 3 months ago
      Obama is a politician. He knows 100% of the 47% vote for him!
    • Kent 3 months ago
      The 47% figure is a lie as everybody with half a brain knows.
  • RickT  •  3 months ago
    If the budget battle doesn't, rising gas prices probably will anyway.
  • Tired  •  3 months ago
    With interest payments and entitlement spending currently accounting for 64% of federal spending,

    And this is only going to keep going up as long as they continue to borrow. What are they going to do when that finally reaches 100%. Then there will be no money left for SS, Medicare/Medicaid, military pay, etc....
    And folks you do NOT want to not pay the ones with the big guns....
    You think the riots in Greece are bad now, wait until the military revolts when they start not getting paid.
  • guyabroad  •  Baku, Azerbaijan  •  3 months ago
    Just tax all public pensions at 70% above 50K. That'll get you more. Mandatory withholding at the source.
    • revman 3 months ago
      why 50k? why not all wages? I'm all for it --konw why?? Because I got mine.
    • Mr. Reality 3 months ago
      70% seems steap, but that isn't that bad of an idea if you establish gradual and annual increases or decreases with that 50K number to keep up with inflation.
    • guyabroad 3 months ago
      Many of the public pensions fall into two broad categories: the legitimately earned (most less than 50K) and the others which are gamed. (the 200K/year pensions). State and local governments can’t really get this money back and cities will have difficulty declaring bankruptcy etc. So a special tax for 10 years should be put in. The Feds can always make a grant the cities or states with the additional funds, but the point is to end the injustice of bloated public pensions. Of course Obama won’t go for it because these guys are his “1%”.
  • NA  •  3 months ago
    Shinytop, look what's going on in Greece. Greece should of made it's cuts years ago. The same with the US. It's not the right time...we've been saying that for years.
    • Sisafitz 3 months ago
      Our main stumbling block is the senate: most people do not recall political events more than 3 years old. Senators need term limits even more so than the president.
  • Rtm  •  Mesa, Arizona  •  3 months ago
    Who says, if we stop borrowing and begin to pay down the debt that surely we'll slip back into a recession? Obama? Is this suppose to be an excuse for bankrupting the country? Unbelieveable! What happens if the dollar collapses because the interest paid on the debt grossly exceeds our GDP? Do we declare bankruptcy?

    If you and I were maxed out on our credit cards because we overspent recklessly, is the solution--- continue to borrow on yet another credit card in hopes it might spark innovations on how to grow the economy and then hope to get out our debt with minimal pain? You and I would stioll owe on the old credit cards, and that has to be paid back.

    This reckeless spending with absurd budget from the White House, plus these reckless accounting gimmicks by the Fed only serve the hide the fact that we still owe the money. Its the private sector that creates jobs, whereas it's the government and its lackys that creates recessions. Austerity is coming, people whether we like it or not.
  • HK357  •  3 months ago
    No, I do not support austerity measures right now but I think we must spend on proper projects and infrastructure; not simply use the money to pander to unions for votes. The unions should never be a consideration in how and where we need to spend.
  • Yahoo  •  3 months ago
    why are the american tax payers ask or told to pay for not only illegals but give 3 yr tax breaks for forighnors to open businesses here and sending money over seas..why are we told we have to do this with the money we work hard for?
  • Aleksandr  •  3 months ago
    What market rally you talking about?
  • Kevins432  •  Pennsauken, New Jersey  •  3 months ago
    All I have to say is those smacks in Washington had better have my Social Security $$'s ready to give me when I retire. I paid into that fund for 35+ years and still have a ways to go before retiring.
  • Barry  •  Stanford, Kentucky  •  3 months ago
    This budget is nothing but campaigning so he can once again say the Republicans have blocked him from doing something while the Democratic senate does nothing but dedicate Post Offices!
  • Harry  •  Prince Frederick, Maryland  •  3 months ago
    Why not force Obama's cronies at Solyandra to cough up the $500 million they stole from the Treasury by funnelling it through their dummy company. That sounds like fairness to me.
  • Joe  •  3 months ago
    obama budget Debit on arrival
  • 5th Horseman  •  Phoenix, Arizona  •  3 months ago
    Let's see it has 1.3 billion to aid the Salafi and Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, where 19 americans are being held hostage, and another 800 million for the other muslim fundamentalists in Tunisia, etc. Glad to think this icon of the Democrat party is thinking about us.
  • Howard  •  3 months ago
    He seems to be talking about $500 billion as though that is the proposed cut in spending, when apparently it is just the proposed cut in the deficit.
  • reality fan  •  Richmond, Virginia  •  3 months ago
    What happens if I spend 125+ % of what I take in? I go to jail eventually for being a crook, a fraud, and a thief. Translation: Obama's budget is crooked, fraudulant, and a prime example of thievery from the American People. He should go to jail.
  • Cup of tea  •  3 months ago
    If Obama and dems really believe spending more and more can help the economy, why don't they all spend 150% of the money they have to help the country? They are pure liars. Especially Obama.

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