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Stocks Are 25% Undervalued For Those Who Can Wait

As the market struggles to come off the morning lows, Rod Smyth, Chief Investment Strategist at Riverfront Investment Group is not losing sight of the fact that US stocks are cheap, specifically "25% cheap to their long-term values." The emphasis there is on long-term. Even a relative optimist like Smyth believes the markets could face a bumpy ride as investors come to terms with the new economic reality.

Smyth thinks Europe is going into recession and the US is entering a period of stagnant growth, regardless of how we label it. But he notes that if earnings come in as analysts expect, we've got $100 of earnings in the S&P500, making stocks cheap at 1,100, 1,150 or even 1,200 on the S&P. The rub is that the estimates are likely too high.

"It's all about earnings," Smyth says. "I think we're going to have a couple of earnings seasons where analysts forecasts are going to be disappointing." Recessions bring with them weak earnings, after all the accounting and productivity dust settles.

Rest easy, bulls, there will come a point at which earnings guide-downs are priced into the markets. We're just not there yet. Smyth is in the popular camp where long-term investors are holding cash and picking away at Blue Chips as markets drift lower. "In many of the great companies you're getting dividends higher than you can get in cash or US Treasuries," he says, echoing the mantra of the long-term investor.

Smyth also suggests taking a shot at what were once called Emerging Market nations. He specifically mentions Brazil which, as noted last week, seems to have a somewhat "flexible" stance towards interest rates. I gently suggested that Brazil's lack of rate stability could signal economic unrest.  But Smyth wouldn't have it, and particularly objected to my use of the label "Banana Republic."

Smyth says America should be so lucky as to have Brazil's problems. "I'd trade our fiscal situation and our outlook for Brazil's everyday of the week," he says, citing the fact that Brazil's central bank is attempting to strike a balance between growth and inflation while the US seems to have neither. He's a buyer of US-based multi-nationals and Brazilian stocks directly.

With the birth of September we're exactly one month away from the start of 3rd quarter earnings season. At that point the reduction of earnings estimates Smyth alludes to should begin to get baked into the cake. When those estimates come down, and presumably take the S&P with it, Smyth will start deploying his 20% cash-load in earnest. Until then he's hanging out in blue chips and collecting dividends.

As always, your comments and observations are welcomed in the space below.

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91 comments

  • A Yahoo! User  •  8 months ago
    The problem with many Americans, particularly the Republicans and so-called Conservatives, is they view the world from a 50 year old time machine. The reality today is that rising economic powers, Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa (BRICS countries) are creating more jobs and selling and utilizing more resources than the US alone. To ignore or even demean these rising economic powers is a dangerous and foolish view. To survive in the new economic reality, you must understand the facts rather than living in a false, American-centric haze. Rapidly developing countries, that 30 or 40 years ago Americans called Third World Countries, such as Malaysia and Indonesia, are building modern and advanced airports, high speed trains, high tech ports to increase trade and commerce. Instead of sitting on the sidelines, and calling them disparaging names, we should be on the forefront, selling concrete, construction machinery, software and hardware computer systems. To survive in the new financial realities and industries, Americans need to throw away their superiority complex, racial and cultural prejudices. The US is not the only game in town or the world. To succeed in the present and the future, learn to understand the culture and languages of these rising economic powers, so you may profit. Those who fail..will fail.
  • A Yahoo! User  •  8 months ago
    Hey republiquors, republickers, republicants: denial, sugar coating, buck passing, and saying it is all lies will no longer work on america. We will take back what was stolen from us for over 30 years and given to the rich on a silver platter that we earned and they didn't. We will reverse this. Things will be better after 30 years of reversal. By the way, it was The rich who flipped houses like pancakes that caused the financial crisis.....The little guy stuck with an inflated house price was the last one to get a house and by that time the rich were collecting money on derivatives that bet on their failure because the rich knew they were selling toxic loans to begin with after they oversaturated the market flipping houses like pancakes. They got away with this because the FBI and CIA were told to only deal with 911 while the flipping was going on. how patriotic of those house flippers. By the way it was a republican who presented the bill to repeal the Glass Stegal Act and passed by a republican house and senate. All Clinton did was sign it. No excuse for the greedy house flippers. It's on Wikipedia. As for NAFTA: Reagan supported NAFTA and Bush, who had worked to "fast track" the signing prior to the end of his term, ran out of time and had to pass the required ratification and signing into law to incoming president Bill Clinton. Prior to sending it to the United States Senate, Clinton introduced clauses to protect American workers and allay the concerns of many House members. That is also on Wikipedia and you'll see it was the republicants that pushed this. So Bill got caught with a girl under his table and left us a surplus. Bush got caught with our country under his table and we're still choking from it. As for today's main problems: type sanders greenspan on you tube and see what happened for real. Look up Bernie Sanders on you tube as well as Michael Moore who offers 10k to anyone who can prove anything in his documentaries to be not true which show real undisputable footage. They tell it like it is.... Stop corporate welfare socialism once and for all. If you're too big to fail, you're too big to exist........Also look up George Carlin The Truth About Republicans on youtube. and also George Carlin Who Really Controls America. Don't listen to the Rush Limbaugh types that have nothing to lose by denial, sugar coating, buck passing, and saying it is all lies. Republicants in the Senate used the filibuster 177 times to stop Democratic Legislation during the 1st 2 years of Obama's 1st term, That is more filibustering than what was used in the previous 50 years. They don't earn their pay. also google this: 199 reasons why reagan stunk.....Even when there's a democratic house and senate, the republicants fillibuster them because the republicants don't have individual minds. They support their one selfish idea like gangbangers for the rich only. Democrats think about consequences and are not gangbangers. Obama is trying to deal with the republicant cry babies who are the party of "no". They say no to everything and don't earn their pay.... This paragraph covers a lot with links for anything left out so the typical republicant response will be something I already covered proving they can't read either......
  • Joe  •  8 months ago
    They don't call it the "Bail Out Economy" for nothing!
  • Mark  •  8 months ago
    What good are stock dividends when the stock itself loses 5-20%. We've seen these dividend paying stocks tank 1-3% daily just like the market. The dividend doesn't offset anything.
    • TC 8 months ago
      Strange. My selection of dividend-paying stocks are either level with or above the prices I bought them at, and their dividends equate to 5.5% annual return vs what I paid. So that's "what good" they are. Income and less volatility in principal value.
  • Z01G  •  8 months ago
    A quick survey of the comments to this article show that virtually nobody is an investor anymore--they are all traders. The volatility of the markets is a stark demonstration of this fact. There have always been traders, but that mentality completely dominates the market now, as well as money managers, and the financial press.
    • Steve 8 months ago
      Want to solve this problem? Stocks held for less than lets say 7 days, or 14 days, or whatever will pay a 100% tax on capital gains. Game over. True inverstors will no longer be held hostege to super fast computers.
    • Steve 8 months ago
      There is wisdom in what Steve says.
    • Steve 8 months ago
      I am Steve!
  • bingo  •  8 months ago
    if Brazil is so hot, why aren't we exporting products there? Oh yeah, we don't make anything they can afford anymore, or need for that matter, just like other evolving foreign markets- the doors are closed and our trade negotiators sold the farm resulting in outrageous trade imbalances. Oh well, get used to living in a tent or mobile home if you're lucky.
  • len c  •  8 months ago
    Machisma

    How a mix of female empowerment and steamy soap operas helped bring down Brazil’s fertility rate and stoke its vibrant economy.

    By Cynthia Gorney

    Photograph by John Stanmeyer

    http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/09/girl-power/gorney-text

    In America females still make less than their male coworkers and now women are losing ground in life expectancy:

    http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jun/15/nation/la-na-womens-health-20110615
  • RJ  •  8 months ago
    Go to vegas, it's safer
  • fast mario  •  8 months ago
    If Obama is re-elected in 2012, there won't be any "For Profit" corporations shortly thereafter! Reid & Pelosi will get legislation passed raising taxes to the breaking point, which Obama will sign into law, and the country's economy will go into the crapper!
  • R  •  8 months ago
    Undervalued if you can wait? Sure but wait how long, 10 years, 20 years? The odds of downside to 700 s&p are more likely then upside to s&p 1400 Look at the macro world economic conditions, look at where the s&p has been in the last 5 years than consider if there is more upside or downside potential? The US and EU are drowning in debt both governments and consumers where is the purchasing power going to come from?
    • Steve 8 months ago
      Stock markets, the biggist scam ever, next to our government.
  • Q  •  8 months ago
    In the 1974 recession DuPont fell to a PE of 3. Profitable and Blue - chip.
  • A Yahoo! User  •  8 months ago
    Why so much hate towards stocks? I do pretty well and it's not hard. Read Phil Town, I follow his technique fairly closely, not to a T. Buy stock when it's undervalued, sell it when it's at or above value. Take advantage of pay for investment accounts as it pays to have free automatic investing as well as access to very good reports. It's ok to to cost average down. If you can't stomach volatility then equities probably aren't for you.
    • Steve 8 months ago
      Yes, buy a stock and then try to sell it to a greater fool than yourself.
      Few seem to get it.
  • JoeBagaDoughnuts  •  8 months ago
    I don't get upset about "banana republic" Brazil provides 10% of the entire world banana production second only to India. Republic means a government having a head of state who is not a monarch. USA is a Corn Republic :P
    • Steve 8 months ago
      And if you were a republic, you would be an idiot republic.
      How many banana's do you grow?
  • Jimmy Shaftbobber  •  8 months ago
    I can wait until they are 75% undervalued.
  • bluelagoon  •  8 months ago
    This MF's has a day dream, 70% of US population will suck on Food Stamps next 3 months.
  • A Yahoo! User  •  8 months ago
    Hey republiquors, republickers, republicants: denial, sugar coating, buck passing, and saying it is all lies will no longer work on america. We will take back what was stolen from us for over 30 years and given to the rich on a silver platter that we earned and they didn't. We will reverse this. Things will be better after 30 years of reversal. By the way, it was The rich who flipped houses like pancakes that caused the financial crisis.....The little guy stuck with an inflated house price was the last one to get a house and by that time the rich were collecting money on derivatives that bet on their failure because the rich knew they were selling toxic loans to begin with after they oversaturated the market flipping houses like pancakes. They got away with this because the FBI and CIA were told to only deal with 911 while the flipping was going on. how patriotic of those house flippers. By the way it was a republican who presented the bill to repeal the Glass Stegal Act and passed by a republican house and senate. All Clinton did was sign it. No excuse for the greedy house flippers. It's on Wikipedia. As for NAFTA: Reagan supported NAFTA and Bush, who had worked to "fast track" the signing prior to the end of his term, ran out of time and had to pass the required ratification and signing into law to incoming president Bill Clinton. Prior to sending it to the United States Senate, Clinton introduced clauses to protect American workers and allay the concerns of many House members. That is also on Wikipedia and you'll see it was the republicants that pushed this. As for today's main problems: type sanders greenspan on you tube and see what happened for real. Look up Bernie Sanders on you tube as well as Michael Moore. They tell it like it is.... Stop corporate welfare socialism once and for all. If you're too big to fail, you're too big to exist........Also look up George Carlin The Truth About Republicans on youtube. and also George Carlin Who Really Controls America. Don't listen to the Rush Limbaugh types that have nothing to lose by denial, sugar coating, buck passing, and saying it is all lies. Republicants in the Senate used the filibuster 177 times to stop Democratic Legislation during the 1st 2 years of Obama's 1st term, That is more filibustering than what was used in the previous 50 years. They don't earn their pay. also google this: 199 reasons why reagan stunk.....Even when there's a democratic house and senate, the republicants fillibuster them because the republicants don't have individual minds. They support their one selfish idea like gangbangers for the rich only. Democrats think about consequences and are not gangbangers. Obama is trying to deal with the republicant cry babies who are the party of "no". They say no to everything and don't earn their pay....
  • anyone  •  8 months ago
    fck him. buy and hold is the biggest lie they ever put on. can i sell my msft at 60 where i bought it 11 years ago? how about fnm, aig, c, ml, bac? oh. i forgot another great name. GM. fkc off. stop stealing peoples money. everybody knows that stocks are totally rigged now, and so, they' ve dropped interest to zero so you seem to have no choice but to gamble in the stock casino. fck off. really.
  • John  •  8 months ago
    If you can wait, then why not wait until the stocks can be purchased at a 50% discount.
  • nobody  •  8 months ago
    Be 50% cash and buy on dips to flip for easy profit. Eventually you'll make all your money back just trading a single market index in this fashion.
  • Stock Wizard  •  8 months ago
    Fact: Most stocks are undervalued. Having cash available to pick up bargains is a smart move. The amount of dividends I receive in 3 months would take over 10 years if the money were in the bank. Warren Buffett, and George Soros have most their money in stocks. Soros also owns hundreds of millions in gold too. Warren Buffett receives $40 million dollars a year in dividends off his personal stock holdings. So is owning stock stupid? Is Warren Buffett stupid? Richest man in the world and he did it owning dividend stocks. Is he selling? No he is buying. That's how he becomes richer every year. Those are the facts. This information will be way above the heads of the ignorant posting here today.

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