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Super Bowl Could Be a Super Loss for Vegas

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One of the unique things about the way the casino industry reports earnings is the open discussion of luck. Obviously good and bad luck impact every business, but nowhere is it more important to the bottom line than in the trade of legalized gambling that keeps places like Las Vegas alive.

Enter the Super Bowl, one of the biggest money movers for the betting industry. Depending on the outcome of Sunday's game between the New England Patriots and the New York Giants, it could potentially be a bust for the Vegas odds makers (and free booze won't be to blame).

"Eight weeks ago the Giants were left for dead after they lost against the Green Bay Packers," says Jack Ablin, chief investment officer at Harris Private bank. "Vegas posted 100:1 odds for the Giants to win the Super Bowl."

Well guess what? Quite of few Giants believers took that bet.

Now, with their ticket to the big game punched, the odds of the Giants winning are just shy of 2:1. According to Ablin, there was enough action on that original long-shot bet weeks ago to get some bookmakers pretty nervous.

This, of course is not the first time the Giants scared Sin City. In 2008 "the betting public put roughly $100 million to work in Las Vegas," says Ablin. "And of course the Giants overcame that deficit, not only beat their spread, but won the game. Las Vegas lost about $2.5 million."

It wasn't the end of the world but in a business based on winning these kinds of bets, losing anything at all is a hard pill to swallow. But fear not, there are plenty of ways for Vegas to compensate.

For starters, a lot of new bets have come in the last few weeks since the Giants' odds improved, making it easier for Vegas to make up for lost bets. Ablin also notes that an increased flow of cash out of New York (a betting Mecca to hear him tell it) may have skewed the point spread. That is to say, while on paper the Giants may deserve to be 6-point underdogs, Vegas has almost certainly set the line at 3-points to keep action even on both sides of the bet (the key to remain a profitable bookmaker).

Regardless of the victors both in the game or at the casino, Ablin says there is one sure play: Bet on Indy. This is the first Super Bowl for the city of Indianapolis and while they're no stranger to major sporting events (they've hosted the Final Four and of course the Indianapolis 500) this is pretty much the biggest stage in sport. For Ablin that means a profit for the city of somewhere between $150 and 200 Million.

Who do you think will win on the field and on the books? Let us know your thoughts in the comment section below.

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54 comments

  • Feckless Leader  •  Breckenridge, Colorado  •  3 months ago
    Who cares about Lost Vegas?
    • G Beck 3 months ago
      Not Obama and not you...... that makes two.
    • Rudolf 3 months ago
      I do, I like it here. Breckenridge and St. Paul are nice but really too cold for human habitation.
    • Feckless Leader 3 months ago
      Lost Vegas is too hot for human habitation.
  • Syd Barrett  •  Chicago, Illinois  •  3 months ago
    LOL.......Vegas losing 2.5 million is like me losing a quarter. They'll make it up the next day on slots alone. The only way they can really get hurt is if they get middled on this game............& btw, quit being so #$%$ stingy with the drink tix.
    • Joe 3 months ago
      Cant get middled if they dont move off the 3
  • David G  •  San Francisco, California  •  3 months ago
    How can this article be taken seriously if it doesn't mention all the money the bookies keep from the people who bet on Green Bay, New England, and New Orleans?
    • Tom 3 months ago
      The odds on GB, NE & NO were nowhere near 100-1!
    • Mike 3 months ago
      Bookies only keep a small percentage known as the vig.
    • Johnny Lee 3 months ago
      Mike, they only keep the vig when the bettor wins. When the bettor loses, the book gets it all.
  • Matt L  •  Phoenix, Arizona  •  3 months ago
    Vegas might lose money? That's funny! Think again!
  • Boo T Hunter  •  Las Vegas, Nevada  •  3 months ago
    It's the same story every year, in every sport. The books cry when a favorite can win because everyone bet them and they cry when a longshot can win because the odds are so high. Amazingly the lights remain on in the casinos no matter who wins.
  • Me  •  Tampa, Florida  •  3 months ago
    Listen people...It's all about where the money isn't...Bet on Giants.
  • builder  •  Green Bay, Wisconsin  •  3 months ago
    The smart gambler will win most of the time an its all about having a bankroll 1 bet won't make me a loser I will win the next one if i lose. anyone who bets one game loses an quits is a loser. You need to hav 10,000 an keep betting tell you win. If you know what i know you can't lose. all said...Bet NY in the first half...An for the game an take the over 53 for half the amt you bet NY for the game. NE has no defense an new york will run all over that defense .Look for 2 interceptions for Brady an at least 2 fumbles NY will force. They strip the ball. 38 to 17 final NEW YORK
  • Valhalla360  •  Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania  •  3 months ago
    The author clearly has no clue how vegas sets odds. They could care less who is more likely to win. They want the bets to balance out. In other words, all the bets should cover the pay outs. Then vegas takes 10% off the top:

    Consider this:
    Team A: 4-1 odds - $25million bet
    Team B: 4-1 odds - $25million bet
    Team C: 5-2 odds - $40 million bet
    Team D:10-1 odds - $10 million bet
    Team D wins which (according to the author is a horrible loss for vegas) as it will cost vegas $100million on only $10million in bets. Of course if you add it up, there were $100million in bets and vegas collected 10% off the top as a betting fee, so they walk away with $10million.
    • Home Air 3 months ago
      Nope. They take less than 5%.

      They also like to tease the bigger half of the betters to be on the wrong side. It ain't about being even and it works out that in normally isn't.
    • Valhalla360 3 months ago
      Never been to vegas have you. The casinos are run by accountants not gamblers. They know the odds and they don't make bets they can't cover.
  • the skipper  •  3 months ago
    is this writer really this stupid? vegas laughs at morons like this one.
  • Joe  •  Fairfield, Iowa  •  3 months ago
    Las Vegas bookmakers are girl scouts selling cookies compared to Wall Street investment bankers with their WMDs.
  • Robert Terjenian  •  Ontario, California  •  3 months ago
    If the line wasn't good, it wouldn't have stayed at 3-3.5.......all they want is money on both sides. Yeah, right, Vegas makes no money on SB Weekend..........make prop bets and enjoy the game. That's what it's all about..........unless you're from NYC or Beantown!
  • A Yahoo! User  •  Nashville, Tennessee  •  3 months ago
    The guy who wrote the article knows nothing about sports book in Vegas. There were will at least $100 million bet on the game and the money of each side will almost be dead even. The losers pay 10 % vig, so on 100 million bet it doesn't matter who wins, Vegas makes 10 million. So they set some odds on the long range book a little too high, big deal there was no real serious money bet that far out. Vegas doesn't rely on luck, it's mathematics, they always have an edge.
  • Cheyenne  •  Richardson, Texas  •  3 months ago
    When there is that much money involved, someone would like to do business.
  • Ted  •  Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania  •  3 months ago
    Go Giants..Get Mark Herzlich a Super Bowl Ring
  • James  •  Cheyenne, Wyoming  •  3 months ago
    These guys running these SportsBooks know all the tricks not to get overloaded on one side or the other._the objective is to extract the juice and have capital from the losers to pay off the winners.Their Golden Rule is to not put house cash at risk_Always use the players money and don't risk casino capitalworks every year.
  • Super Poor  •  3 months ago
    Wrong, the right number is 3 which is why they should have opened underneath it given the undoubtedly one sided NY action which would come regardless.
  • Kmac  •  Richardson, Texas  •  3 months ago
    They also never mention the "vig" or vigorish whichis a bookie's or sports books buffer against losses. You usually have to bet say $110 to win $100, that extra ten beingthe vig. As they said on the video, those hotels and casinos weren't built from people winning money but losing money. If bookies lost money or Vegas for that matter, they wouldn't be inthe business. And when they put the spread at 2 1/2 and a team wins by three it's a push or a wash. Just sayin"
  • demanding  •  3 months ago
    They can't move the line off of 3 because it's a key number. So the price changes, not the line. At some books you can get NE-3 at +105.
  • Graham  •  Canberra, Australia  •  3 months ago
    In Foreclosure City, relying on drinking, gambling, prostitution and Atomic Bombs to pay the mortgage is not a good idea. In hard times, people give Vegas the flick. Some are giving America the flick and moving to Australia - the land of the Second Chance since 1788 when the first convicts landed. If you're not afraid of hard work, we're not fussy about your record or your pedigree. It took my great grandparents three months on a sailing ship to get here. Today: Only 14 hours from LAX. On YouTube: Radio Graham - Not Just Ned
    • Rudolf 3 months ago
      Aren't you a little hard on us? I like it here myself. Really good restaurants, and plenty of them, really good entertainment, lots of hiking and outdoors in the wide opern desert. Sure, we are hard hit by the recession. But guess what, I have seen it all before right here in Nevada. The sixties and the eighties were no picnic either.As far as foreclosures go, now is the time to get a really nice house dirt cheap. Investors are moving in from around the globe, even from the land of down Under. Have a nice day mate!
  • Danny L  •  3 months ago
    The spread on the game has stayed the same since the first odds were posted. That means money has stayed even. If not the odds would have been adjusted to influence betting one way or the other. As far as the 100:1 odds on the Giants winning the superbowl. The reason the odds started changing was not because the Giants started winning but because the money started changing when they won. After all they were probably not many people willing to bet a dollar to get make handred that they would win the super bowl. Probably as many as were willing to lay hundred to make a dollar shich at the time would seem to be a smart bet. Vegas doesn't build those big hotels by losing. Bookies don't care who wins or loses all they want is the money to be even and collect the juice on the losing bet, usually 10%. So if you bet the losing team (which could be the winning team that didn't cover the spread) with a $100 dollar bet you owe the bookie $110. So the bookie wants a million bet both ways.

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