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    Bonuses at Goldman Sachs Are Coming Down: Cohan Says They’re Still WAY Too High

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    Only on Wall Street would a 58% decline in profit and a 30% drop in revenue be considered "good news", but that's the story Wednesday for Goldman Sachs.

    The venerable firm reported fourth-quarter earnings of $1.84 per share on net revenue of $6.05 billion. The top-line was well shy of consensus estimates of $6.55 billion, but the bottom-line EPS was well ahead of the Street's $1.24 and Goldman shares were recently up more than 6%.

    Goldman's earnings beat was derived largely on the basis of cost-cutting as investment banking revenue fell 43% vs. a year-ago, fixed-income trading was down 17% and equities trading slid 15% vs. year-ago levels.

    In 2011, Goldman cut 2400 jobs and lowered its compensation expense 21% to $12.22 billion, or 42.4% of net revenue. On a conference call Wednesday, Chief Financial Officer David Viniar targeted $1.4 billion in cost savings, up from $1.2 billion previously. "We're not going to cut away our prosperity but we will try and size the firm appropriately for the environment," he said.

    The problem is that while the industry has endured "huge structural changes, I don't think the compensation system has caught up to it yet," says William Cohan, a former investment banker and author of Money and Power: How Goldman Sachs Came to Rule the World.

    While much is being made about lower bonuses across Wall Street, Cohan says they're still too high. "These people are their [employers'] assets that go up and down the elevator everyday, but I still don't think they need to pay them as much as they do," he says. "What other business on the face of the earth, as a public company, pays 42% of its revenue out in the form of compensation?"

    The $12.2 billion bonus pool works out to around $367,000 per Goldman employee, which is an exorbitant amount of money in just about any other industry but down from nearly $431,000 per employee last year.

    Historically, Wall Street firms have justified paying huge bonuses in the name of "employee retention." But Cohan says there just aren't many opportunities for the rank and file on Wall Street to move if they don't like their year-end bonus. "I don't think that bid is out there any more," he says.

    See also: Wall Street Bonus Cuts Prompt Complaints — Aren't They Thankful They Have Jobs?

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    49 comments

    • Jim  •  Tampa, Florida  •  4 months ago
      $367,000 per Goldman employee - do the back office employees and janitors get anywhere near that? if so ...how can I join ( ha ha )
      • Blue-Collar Guy 4 months ago
        probably illegal immigrants. you know, that cost of labor.
      • Caldude 4 months ago
        Probably not given back office people are easily replaced with other low wage people. Where as a key player in a major deal isn't easily replaced.
      • Michael 4 months ago
        The Goldman Sachs partners will still get a bonus between $3.5 and $6.0 million this year, according to the Wall Street Journal. In previous years, senior partners would get roughly $8 million. Not bad work if you can get it.
    • Aleksandr  •  4 months ago
      Can it be missed MF Global money?
    • michael d  •  Fort Myers, Florida  •  4 months ago
      I saw my stock investment go from $156.00 down to $ 97.00 a share. All of you stock holders are getting a hosing. You should sell and let them realize who owns the company. Wake up
      • Mao 4 months ago
        Why did you buy this PoS for 156 per share?
      • Robert 4 months ago
        He bought at 156 because he is not smart enough to work there . if he sells at 97 Goldman would never hire him
      • TruthTeller 4 months ago
        Michael - There is a fatal flaw in your logic. If you sell at $97 per share, there will still be shareholders. It won't impact the company at all. You will lose money on your investment and Goldman's capital will be uneffected by the trade.
    • owen  •  Las Vegas, Nevada  •  4 months ago
      Why should any of these so-called bankers get a bonus? They caused the current financial crisis, got bailed out at taxpayer expense and now have the gall to accept a bonus? #$%$??Hang 'em all!!!
    • Old Iron B_tt  •  Rockville, Maryland  •  4 months ago
      It's my business when the company giving the bonus took $10 Billion in taxpayer money. They still havent learned their lesson. The greed is back once again.
      • Robert 4 months ago
        No it no longer is your business. The firm paid the money back . Not like Solyndra and the solar energy fantasy, not like GM with its union thugs benefiting .
      • Tom 4 months ago
        They paid it all back, plus interest. You actually owe Goldman Sachs now.
    • VladimirS  •  New York, New York  •  4 months ago
      "Average" in the bonus world does not mean anything. You can have single CEO with 100M payout who offset 372 employee with 100K and made the same 367 average.
    • Tom  •  Melbourne, Florida  •  4 months ago
      The "retain talented employees" argument makes me sick. That's eco-babble rich people use to justify screwing others. If they were so talented why is my 401K not making 7-10%? Seem to me the only talent they have is the ability to operate lacking morals.
      • Caldude 4 months ago
        I know a former GS person who took a job elseware after 10yrs given it was a better job. Seems he made the right call. Better pay and he's not in the cross hairs of the retarded average joe.
      • j 4 months ago
        Capitalism is not about morals.
      • James 4 months ago
        That's increasingly evident...especially since these arrogant morons tend to complain so much about the imputed lack of morals of ordinary (productive) workers and those who are victims of their gambling.
    • Eric  •  New York, New York  •  4 months ago
      When the bonuses are at the cost of the stockholders (who own the company) and are not directly related to "profit" (they are based on revenue, so if the trade looses money they still get the bonus) there is a direct disconnect. The stockholders need to retake control of companies from the "management" who are just trying to enrich themselves at stockholder expense. The current practice "By the management, for the management" has to change.
    • NITRO  •  Salinas, California  •  4 months ago
      Yes GS has paid back their bailout sponsored by the US taxpayer so their operation is that of GS. I just hope that they have held back enough reserves that if the economy goes in the tank again they can self finance their position. If not let them sink and let them vanish into the wood work. GS don't ask the taxpayer for another bailout. For those who invest with GS might want to reevaluate their position so that the 2007-08 finacial fall won't wipe them out as what happened to many Americans during this past and present financial crisis.
    • yahoo user  •  4 months ago
      I've seen how businesses are run. There isn't one employee who ISN'T expendable. There are thousands of talented individuals ready to take their place -- and for far less compensation. This argument doesn't fly with me and never did. It's corporate greed - pure and simple.
    • GK Chesterton  •  Portland, Maine  •  4 months ago
      Why does GS never come under scrutiny by the regime that supposedly hates WallStreet?
    • Dan  •  4 months ago
      Romney says, " I get speaking fees that aren't too much..."

      Only more than a quarter or a million dollars!

      These Wall-Street Fat Cats are totally out of touch with average Americans.
    • bill  •  4 months ago
      Before you say there bonuses are way to high don,t forget they have to share them with OPEC.
    • DR. IGG NO RAMUS  •  Jackson, Mississippi  •  4 months ago
      goldman, morgan,and the rest of the banksters on wall st, are run as private piggy banks for the selected honchos that run these companies. only at these firms you can have a 58% decline in profits and still scam over 40% of the remaining pie for themselves. then when there is a market crash, they are the first to show up begging for the taxpayers to bail them out.
    • MichelleD  •  New York, New York  •  4 months ago
      I work for these banks: Goldman Sachs, CitiGroup, JP Morgan, Morgan Stanley, etc. and I can tell you close to none of the staff believe they are over paid. The problem is most people have not voted and complained to their Congressman to stop this outrageous pay structure. In England and Europe, they are passing laws and taxes to lower the compensation of the bankers. Nothing is being done in the US to stop this. This is OUTRAGEOUS since NONE of the bankers at Goldman Sachs , CitiGtroup, JP Morgan or Morgan Stanley would be in existense today without AIG being bailed out on the credit default swaps (insurance policies for corporate bond debt) 100% on the dollar so Goldman alone received $20 billion indirectly and Goldman and Morgan Stanley because bank holding companies on a Sunday night at 9 p.m. so they could borrow tens of billions more to survive to open for Monday trading.
    • James  •  Flint, Michigan  •  4 months ago
      Expect more of the same from Blankfine--Paulson Inc. They can't miss while using the U.S. Treasury for their slush fund. The days of Wall St. powers are coming to an end just as it did in during the1929 crash.
    • Robert  •  Houston, Texas  •  4 months ago
      That sure is a lot of money that should go to the shareholders in dividends & stock buybacks.
    • globetrotter  •  Santa Clara, California  •  4 months ago
      12B...does anyone ever wonder what GS actually DOES to add that much VALUE to the economy in a year... I DO...even though I'm a 1% member.
    • Et tu Brute  •  4 months ago
      Anyone who said crime doesn't pay hasn't worked at Goldman Sachs.
    • Daniel P  •  Dubai, United Arab Emirates  •  4 months ago
      why is it anyone's business what a company gives their employees for a bonus?if my private company gives me a million dollars this year its no one's business.

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