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    The Darker Side of Apple: The Human Cost of Your iProducts

    With the passing of Steve Jobs last month, there have been countless tributes to the man who created the company that changed the world. But along side all the amazingly beautiful, functional and revolutionary products Jobs created, there is a slighter darker side to Apple, which rarely makes headlines.

    Mike Daisey, storyteller extraordinaire and lifelong "Machead", explores both the good and the bad surrounding Apple in his new Off Broadway play appropriately titled, "The Agony and the Ecstasy of Steve Jobs."

    The professional monologist joined The Daily Ticker's Aaron Task to talk about the show he created and currently performs in at Manhattan's Public Theater. In the accompanying video, Aaron and Daisey discuss the "agony " aspect of Apple, which focuses on the reportedly horrendous labor conditions in the Chinese manufacturing plants where some Apple products are made. (For the "ecstasy" part of this interview, see: The Agony and the Ecstasy of Steve Jobs: Mike Daisey Says Technology Is 'New Religion')

    China's Foxconn: Workers Worked to Death

    It was back in the spring of 2010 when at least 10 suicides were reported at Foxconn's manufacturing plant in Shenzhen China. Foxconn is the world's largest electronic manufacturer making product for Hewlett-Packard, Nokia and Apple's iPad.

    With nearly one million employees throughout China, the suicides raised many questions about the safety and working conditions for the people working in those plants.

    As research for his show, Daisey visited Foxconn—a place many journalists and Americans have never visited—and what he found surprised him beyond belief.

    "What I was really shocked by was institutionalized dehumanization," he says. "The systems that are put in place are working and the objective of them working is to work people, basically, to death."

    He's talking about "massive production lines" where people work "endlessly." Workers are never rotated and end up doing the same task hundreds of thousand of times. "I met many workers whose joints in their hands have disintegrated from doing that work…. [Hands] literally swollen, literally deformed [and] permanently warped," he explains.

    Out of Sight, Out of Mind

    Most Americans don't give a second thought to how our toys and gadgets are made or how they make it onto store shelves. Daisey hopes his story will open a few eyes.

    But without a question, he believes Steve Jobs, knew what the conditions where on the ground at Foxconn. And the same goes today for Apple's new CEO Tim Cook. "Apple is a company that believes in micromanagement. They pay attention to details," says Daisey. "There is not question in my mind that they know what conditions are like on the ground."

    As said above, Apple is not the only company to do business with Foxconn. Over the last two decades Western companies have shipped hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs overseas to not only China's Foxconn, but other manufactures in third world countries, in a hunt for cheap labor. Unfortunately in doing so, Corporate America chose to ignore its Western values and high labor standards, says Daisey.

    What You Can Do

    If you are at all moved by these details discussed in this interview, Daisey has a couple tips on how you can try to make a difference.

    #1 — Stop upgrading your technology all the time. By doing so you'd prevent pumping money back into the electronic industry so often, which signals demand to tech companies that then rush to satisfy that demand and produce new products. On top of that, it will save you money, save the environment and lessen the human costs to make these techonologies.

    #2 — Email Apple CEO Tim Cook and tell him how you feel. His email address is tcook@apple.com. But Daisey asks that you please don't abuse this email address.

    Dear Apple: The Daily Ticker would like to extend an open invitation to CEO Tim Cook to appear on the show and respond to the allegations laid out in this segment.

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    1,017 comments

    • justdave  •  Indianapolis, Indiana  •  2 months ago
      I don't know if anyone saw the follow up but turns out Daisy made up most of the stuff he "found". He admitted it. What a joke, trying to grab attention for himself by dishing Apple. I know there are some problems but his report should be totally discounted. He said his facts were not meant to be journalism, but theatre.
    • Tim  •  3 months ago
      I know how apple could ensure that all their employees are being treated as well as Americans would expect. Make their stuff in America!
      • Jonathan 3 months ago
        Then we would never be able to afford purchasing it.
      • Tim 2 months ago
        No, apple just wouldn't make quite as much money
      • AfroSamurai 2 months ago
        "Workers in developed nations? DO NOT WANT"

        - Apple
    • jermaineR  •  Cambridge, Massachusetts  •  3 months ago
      Buy American...Buy a Toyota Tundra its Made in Texas.
    • Junichiro  •  3 months ago
      Sniff sniff, I smell a bunch of liberal whiners in here.
    • J  •  3 months ago
      I will buy American if the quality matches the price!!! Capitalism eh? That's why I own a Toyota pickup.
    • Jim H  •  Cleveland, Ohio  •  3 months ago
      Thankfully...I own nothing made by Apple.
      • J 3 months ago
        Unfortunately, most things "Made in China" should be boycotted for horrendous labor practices.
    • KickingAss  •  3 months ago
      A grim and truthful view of the "Worker's Paradise" the 0bots dream of living in.
    • Mark  •  Palm Springs, California  •  3 months ago
      RON PAUL 2012 !!!!!!!
    • Glenn  •  Stone Mountain, Georgia  •  4 months ago
      When Newt gets to be president, black kids can add this to their list of chores, ala 'Daddy Newt', so they can learn work ethic.
    • Chris  •  6 months ago
      Many fail to realize a key point -- the Chinese system is a socialist market economy where people are more easily replaced than even the tools they use. And the Chinese run their factories and treat the individual just as the Chinese government does. Its what they know and what is culturally practiced expected under the Communist system, even in the free economic zones like Shenzhen (where Foxconn operates). I have traveled throughout communist China. The fact that it is a rising socialist market economy doesn't change the ingrained communist ideology in the way the individual is seen. People under communism exist to serve the state, the collective.

      From what I know of Foxconn it's a subsidiary of Hon Hai in Taiwan, a contract assembly provider for many electronics firms. Likely, the enforcement of better working conditions may be somewhat outside of the scope of the contracting company, in this case Apple, and more in the hands of Foxconn and Hon Hai. Foxconn has 700,000 assembly workers in the Shenzhen area which is a free economic zone, near Hong Kong. Probably best to email them first.

      Steve Jobs supposedly met with Barack Obama as part of his economics advisory team and Jobs told the President that the reason that Apple has 700,000 people building their products in China is because he can't obtain some 30,000 or so manufacturing engineers in the USA that would be necesssary to oversee assembly. The engineers and probably the size and scope of the operation are not possible to put together here in the US, and probably way too costly since the entire operation is set up elsewhere and major high volume device manufacturers are using them and already will have a huge price competitive edge using it.

      We used to have manufacturing in the US until the cost of doing business and the increasing burden if government regulations such as FICA and many other costs and regulations of employing domestic workers drove manufacturers overseas. This is not something hey wanted to do. It was the only way they could remain in business and compete with competitors who were using subsistence wage labor forces and had to meet few regulations.

      Apple product design has contracted out the assembly to Foxconn and I doubt Apple has that much real power to drastically change things. But it wouldn't hurt to email Apple and ask them respectfully if there are things they can do as a primary customer. If you're willing to back it up, tell them you are not going to renew your Apple devices until you hear good things have happened at Foxconn.
      • g 6 months ago
        I did not write Apple but I did write Wal Mart about the same issues and was surprised that they did write back but not at their answer which was more or less ( To bad if you don't like it.)
      • Cruise Girl 6 months ago
        Kudos to your post. Everyone should be writing the White House and their reps and telling them to cut all of the regulations that weigh down American Corporations. Maybe, just maybe you could get Obummer to listen.
      • Ruby 3 months ago
        Which regulations would you want the White House to do away with? Employee safety standards set by OSHA? Ecological standards set by the EPA? Personal (and therefore also employee) privacy regulations? Anti-discrimination and anti-sexual harassment regulations? Workman's compensation regulations? Social security regulations? CDC regulations? Minimum wage regulations? I'm sure there are plenty of companies that would simply love to be rid of all these pesky laws and regulations, so please be more specific as to which of these regulations should be "cut out" so that American companies are no longer "weighed down" from creating the most dangerous, low paid, and miserable circumstances possible in the workplace. Yep, that'll sure teach those jerks in the White House a lesson they'll never forget.
    • johnny  •  6 months ago
      SAD NEWS
    • Capt.R  •  6 months ago
      Buy Made in USA.
      • Kimberly 6 months ago
        We won't be buying much then, will we?
    • David  •  6 months ago
      Just once I'd like to see a company clearly compare the cost of a product that is manufactured in China versus US. Whether it be TVs, computers, iPhones, jeans, etc. let's see an honest comparison. Would people be willing to pay the extra to keep the money and jobs in the US?
      • Bill 6 months ago
        We no longer abuse employees to the point of torture or disfigurement as they still do in China. The point is more than just $.
      • McFermi 6 months ago
        People already made that decision that is why all production has moved to China. And by people, I mean the consumers, they decide by how they select products in the store. American's go for the cheapest.
      • RS 6 months ago
        Sorry, McFermi, I go for items which are not crap. If I have to pay $2, 3 or 4 more for something made better in the US, that is what I'll buy. In fact, I refuse to buy things made in China as much as possible. I've needed a new electric knife for years, but they're all made in China, so . . . I pray everything Thanksgiving that mine will continue to last until turkey time next year!
    • Tommy  •  6 months ago
      To the Peoples party in China, human life means little. Multinationals exploit the slave labor. Many American companies, include Apple, encourage the arbitrage labor. The globalist elite are forcing Americans to become more Foxconn-like. Multi-nationals own Washington DC.
    • Kevin H  •  6 months ago
      Jobs could have had these plants in the US and maybe would have died with $2 billion versus $3 billion.
    • TheIncredibleShrinkingWal ...  •  6 months ago
      There is not enough leverage in individual actions like boycotts. The scale of this problem requires a policy response, to equalize their slave labor costs to our minimum standards for labor in America. That would raise costs (yes) but is ultimately the only way to save lives and preserve human dignity in the world. Ask Donald Trump - who else will stand up for liberty? Ron Paul maybe... I'll take freedom over cheap goods.
    • Barney77  •  6 months ago
      Gee, I would have thought Job's comittment to Budhism and his quest for the perfect zen and whirled peas would have superceded his pursuits of materialistic profits in the Western World!
    • david  •  6 months ago
      This is what you get for employing off shore workers instead of American Manufacturing. Yes, it will cost more to manufacture here in the U.S.A but it will grow the American economy. I do blame the greeds of companies insearch of cheap labors and sacrifying humans conditions for your corporate gains. There is no win win situation here until we look at a whole global working conditions on the cheap side of labors. We need to keep American jobs here in this country or we will soon be a second class citizen next to China or India.
    • Mark  •  6 months ago
      10 suicides in a year out of 1 million employees. That's less than 1 tenth of the US suicide rate!
    • DavidW  •  6 months ago
      Sending jobs overseas puts Americans out of jobs and makes slaves out of people in foreign lands, a win win for the corporate world and a lose lose for workers here and overseas.Its the human against profit, has been that way for hundreds of years. How do we as a race rise above greed and all the dark elements of our human nature? Really its the core element of so many things that are wrong with the world, would we do the same if we were in a position to make big bucks? We hoped when we came to the shores of America that the new government would not fall victim to the same problems as we left in the old country, but it did.

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