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    The Economy Has Hit “Stall Speed,” Says Mauldin–Look Out Below

    In his latest weekly note, John Mauldin argues that the U.S. economy has hit "stall speed" and that we may well be headed for a double-dip recession.

    Worse, says Mauldin, the president of Millennium Wave Advisors and the author of "END GAME: The End of the Debt Supercycle," believes that the best-case scenario for the next decade is likely a "muddle-through" economy in which growth averages only 2%.

    Whenever year-over-year growth in GDP drops below 2%, Mauldin says, a recession generally follows. With the recent downward revisions to GDP in the past few quarters, we're now approaching the 2% level. Although the economy could stabilize at this anemic rate of growth, the implosion of Europe would tip us into another recession.

    And why the lousy outlook beyond that?

    Because the country has only just begun to tackle the massive debt and deficit problem that nearly paralyzed the government last week.

    The US needs to shrink government spending relative to GDP every year for the next 5-10 years, Mauldin says. And these cuts in spending will drag down the growth of GDP. America's consumers, meanwhile, still have debt coming out of their ears, so they won't be able to pick up the slack. Put these two factors together, Mauldin argues, and we're headed for a "muddle-through decade."

    And that's the best-case scenario. Another scenario, Mauldin says, is a full-blown debt crisis triggered by what's happening in Europe right now. Such a crisis would lead to drastic slashing of government spending on both sides of the Atlantic, and this would clobber the economy. In this scenario, Mauldin says, we won't be looking at "muddle-through," but a recession.

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    19 comments

    • Bill  •  9 months ago
      The fix is to stop the transfer of wealth out of America. Lets create a green, self sustaining economy. Let's become the leader in the use of Solar, Geothermal, Wind energies by creating the equipment and technologies here and paying a livable wage for those working in the industry.
      • TJ 9 months ago
        Fools like you are what this country does not need. Green doesn't work. In fact, if you take a look at the companies that are professing green, the jobs are all over seas. Big help to our economy. Green costs more than its worth. Wind, solar, and geothermal have no value in an economy that has not developed those items into a functioning scheme. Its another way for businesses to sucker fools like you.
      • don 9 months ago
        Green does not work. Secondary source of energy at best.
      • Gary Schwendiman, Ph.D. 9 months ago
        Any "Green" that produces electricity is a loser. It is far cheaper to use coal or natural gas so in tough economic times, green will not last. The only green that makes sense is biofuels. Development of domestic biofuels would keep the U. S. from sending billions of dollars to OPEC countries for oil. Biofuel produced in the U. S. keeps mkoney in the U. S. We do not import electricity. We have plenty. It should come from the cheapest sources, and if the movie stars and crazy environmentalists and anti scientific people would go away, 85% of our electricity could be produced by super safe nuclear plants, just like it is in France. Wake up and read something except the newspapers and quit watching TV. The relationship between the truth and the media is the same as the relationship between the color green and the number 7.
    • Anonymous33  •  9 months ago
      Mr. Mauldin said, "Unemployment will be uncomfortably high" for the next 5 years. But NO ONE is saying what we should do about those unemployed people. Don't they have a right to live too?

      He also says that the solution to creating jobs is for the "government to get out of the way." He therefore implies more deregulation and by extension lower taxes for businesses. But isn't that part of what got us here in the first place?
      • Lisa 9 months ago
        No. One of the main reasons as to why manufacturers take their business over seas is the lack of regulation in other countries. It is not the cost of labor here in America, but the cost of regulation.

        And actually, it wasn't the lack of regulation that caused our recent fall, but yet another gov't regulation forcing banks to lend to those not worthy of a home loan. The banks bundled up much of that bad debt and sold it to unknowing investors in an attempt to save their butts. But that is only a portion of the story.
      • Pauly 9 months ago
        Government regulation is what has caused many of the problems. Not all government regulation is bad, but a lot of it is. Should a worker expect a safe work environment? Yes. Should the government dictate what the minimum wage is? No.

        Should a worker have the right to work, free of being forced to join a union? Yes. Should a worker be forced to buy into a benefits package they don't need or want? No.

        Should government dictate with whom and when a company can do business? No. Should government have the ability to dictate who a company hires? When it comes to non-citizens, yes. Should a company be forced to hire a certain percentage of minorities? No.

        Historically, the best economic times have been when there was the least amount of government regulation.
    • Bill  •  9 months ago
      Taxes are a redistribution of wealth. The Bush tax cuts interrupted this redistribution creating this huge chasm between the poor and middle class vs the rich. The rich are hoarding their cash, the middle class is tapped out and the poor never had much to contribute in the first place. Now the middle class is under attack again, the rich will be untouched and he class of poor will become larger as those in the middle class lose what little they have left. Eventually there will be 2 classes, just like in Haiti.
      • TJ 9 months ago
        What the hell are you talking about. You are ignorant. The Bush tax cuts were across the board. Apparantly you never took or passed high school economics. The poor never paid and are still not paying any taxes. As for the middle class, They pay less than half of the total taxes to the government. The only time taxes ever were a redistribution of wealth is when the Government spends it on entitlements like education that doesn't work or food stamps. The high income earners pay more than 50% of the total tax base. It is ignorance such as you display that allows the politicians to run ramshot and pursuade individuals like you.
      • don 9 months ago
        Nice reply TJ.
    • Lords of Illusion  •  9 months ago
      The Federal government is nothing more than a CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE at this point.

      Fronting for the Criminal Elites and Central Bankers. ( ABSURD to call this a representive anything )

      Soviet Style Communism of Germany style Fascism are their END Goals, exit plans.

      I see the WALLS hidden behind their FRAUD/LIES.
      • L 9 months ago
        You are mixing up all your adjectives...fascism is the sworn enemy and opposite of communism. While both are authoritarian, communism does not have private property while fascism is in bed with private property. So fascism is closer to the mark. Actually it is more dangerous...it is a plutocracy and oligarchy of a small wealthy elite full of private property (so not communism at all) but makes believe it is free market anti-government and gets unwitting tea-baggers to do their dirty fascist propaganda against any kind of decent compromise of a mixed economy and social democracy...the true ideal.
      • Bobby 9 months ago
        Google . United Nations Agenda 21 or check out on youtube
    • Kenneth L  •  9 months ago
      More jobs lost because of Over-Regulation, Businesses are Over-Taxed and Obamacare.
      • Bill 9 months ago
        So pillage the natural resources and become the World's Next Haiti. Remember, Port Au Prince was the richest city in the world at one time until business was deregulated and the country was raped of natural resources and the laborers just plain raped.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  9 months ago
      Father your prose is commendable but good fiction is a habit in liberal circles. Revenues increase when everyone who works pays taxes. The rich always pay more than their share. they pay a higher rate and the highest total amount compared to everyone else.
      You seem to think that getting to the top financially is easy. It is not. You seem to think that those who do should be punished, while those less aggressive at earning a high salary should be given the results of those who are successful. I say this is not a capitalist Republic, but a Socialist cabal that has failed in every country it has existed in at every time in history. The most immoral of concepts is to forcibly take a man's wealth and give to those who cannot or will not do for themselves to the level this man has done. That is not only immoral but criminal.
      Fairness in taxation is that everyone pays the same. That is the definition. So everyone should pay a flat tax of 15%. No one should have a deduction. We should have savings accounts that we can deposit up to 20% of our income tax free for our health, education and retirement, so that we can be free from the government. We should be able to pass these on to our children so they do not need government support. If we establish a poverty line then no one gets a return if you take money from the government in the form of social services.
      This would be the American way.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  9 months ago
      Welcome to 1984.
    • JERRY  •  9 months ago
      WHY IS IT AGAIN THAT WE CAN NOT LAY OFF AS MANY GOVERMENT EMPLOYEES SINCE 1] THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN HIRED IN THE FIRST PLACE 2] CAN THEY MAKE MAKE IT ON UNEMPLOYMENT, THAT IS WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT PEOPLE WORKING OUTSIDE THE GOV. 3] THE ELDERLY USE TO HELP THERE FAMILIES,NOW SINCE THE GOVERMENT SPENT ALL OF SS MONEY THEY MAY WANT TO START NOW. NOT SPENDING IT.I DO NOT KNOW IF THEY CAN KEEP SS MONEY.MYSELF I EXSPECT TO BE PAID BACK WITH INTEREST!!!
    • A Yahoo! User  •  9 months ago
      Bill you cannot wish wages to be a certain level. There is no real demand for these green technologies and they are inefficient. Oddly the state that lead the way in these technologies are Red states. The wages at these jobs will be what they will be. The government needs to keep their mitts of the wages.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  9 months ago
      Bill have you ever asked yourself why there are classes? the choices we make give us opportunities to make our way through life. If you would like to get into a business where you can make a fortune then go into investment banking. If your goal is to keep the streets safe for citizens, then become a cop but don't expect millionaire's pay.
      So this gap is a result of the poor having to pay more for everyday living and some really bad decisions of their own.
      Obama was told byPalin "drill baby drill" yet net oil production is down and oil industry workers are laid off due to Obama policies. Gas prices are high which effects the poor more. Ethanol subsidies along with the higher price of fuel is causing food prices to soar. The demise of the dollar is costing Americans more and more everyday. Excessive regulatory rules and threats of rules cause energy prices to skyrocket. Healthcare cost more due to the inefficient government programs that do not pay the doctors so the paying public pay more.
      So the rich who are paying the biggest chunk of the taxes are also providing most of the jobs. Bush dropped the bottom two brackets of tax payers out of the net paying class. So the rest of us pick up the tab on everyone else.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  9 months ago
      @Anonymous33
      It depends what you deregulate. when Clinton nullified the Glass-Steagall Act it started the slide to this mess. Keep investments away from regular checking and savings. If you are talking about a lot of useless EPA regulations, now you are talking money. If the NLRB would leave Boeing alone then 1000 citizens of SC get to keep decent jobs. Taxes and labor are expensive in this country. Not only do businesses pay federal taxes they also pay state and local taxes too. Give businesses a reason to come back and a reason to stay here.
    • John Francis  •  9 months ago
      If they are talking about recession, that usually means we are already or nearly through it. Most of the indicators they use are lagging. Investment bankers and traders are sitting on alot of cash. I would guess that the economy is already through its dip or will soon hit the bottom of the cycle and that we will be doing well economically speaking by the end of the fourth quarter. Keep that in mind... investment bankers and traders are sitting in cash. WHAT could they be waiting for? Isn't the fiat system a ponzi scheme?
    • Cortez  •  9 months ago
      Republicans want to drive this country into the ground. There will only be two classes, haves and havenots. Mr. Boehner says don't tax the jobs makers. The jobs makers are firing here, i:e downsizing, outsourcing and hiring overseas. Wake Up America!!!
    • lil red  •  9 months ago
      I can't believe what I just read on Yahoo,"Senators want to end developmental aid to China." We are having hell just paying the interest on what we owe China and we are still giving them money free and clear to compete against the U.S. This is #$%$ we need to end ALL foreign aid NOW. There should be a total Congressional vote on this ASAP, and the results furnished to the news networks on how every congressman voted. If we don't clean out Congress, the end of our nation is comming fast.
    • Liviu  •  9 months ago
      THE REAL PROBLEM IS THE DECLINE OF THE DOLLAR. WITH THE GOVERNMENT'S RUNWAY SPENDING AND PRINTING AIR MONEY WITHOUT ANY VALUE. THE INVESTOR HAS NO MORE TRUST IN THE DOLLAR. PRINTING MONEY ONLY MAKES THE DOLLAR WEAKER AND CREATES SUPER INFLATION, LIKE IT DID IN GERMANY AFTER WWII. GERMAN PRINTED MONEY TO PAY OFF THEIR NATIONAL DEBT, AND THEIR CURRENCY BECAME COMPLETELY WORTHLESS. THE MORE THE U.S. TREASURY PRINTS MONEY OUT OF THIN AIR, THE WEAKER THE DOLLAR BECOMES. IT'S NO WONDER INVESTORS ARE EXCHANGING THEIR DOLLARS FOR GOLD, WHICH IN ACTUALLY DEVALUES THE DOLLAR EVEN FURTHER. DURING THE GREAT DEPRESSION, ROOSEVELT MADE IT ILLEGAL TO OWN GOLD, BECAUSE OWNING GOLD WAS DEVALUING THE DOLLAR. IT WAS A FEDERAL CRIME IF YOU WERE CAUGHT WITH GOLD. I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED TO SEE OBAMA DO THE SAME THING HERE TO TRY TO SAVE THE DOLLAR. IT DIDN'T WORK DURING ROOSEVELT'S TIME, IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK NOW. PEOPLE LOST FAITH IN THE DOLLAR, BECAUSE THEY LOST FAITH IN THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. AND SINCE INVESTORS ARE PEOPLE, IT DOESN'T AMAZE ME THE ECONOMY IS WHERE IT IS.
    • Southern Son .  •  9 months ago
      The reality of what may be yet to come is coming to realization . Years upon years of carefully structured initiatives geared towards protectionist policies that have broadly favored the Super Rich and Corporate interests have effectively neutralized the robust dynamics of the American Jobs Market / base . Companies are reporting massive gains , but the American citizen / worker has been surgically cut out and removed from any possibility of realistically sharing in the gains that have been reaped in by the corporations and their C . E . O . s ' . The basic right to earn a good living and enjoy a level of contentment has been broadly usurped by the Power Brokers of the Elitist factions as well as policy directives and content that have been lacking in regards to ensuring the establishment of an across the board environment that , not only enabled Big Business , but that safeguarded the interests of the American Citizen and Worker as well . The next five years will , indeed , be challenging .
    • david f  •  9 months ago
      all companys new, we would have a second recession , it right in front of your eyes . no need to hire anyone, companys are not spending money
    • Father  •  9 months ago
      Enough: if u r going to talk about fixing symptoms...the problem is political corruption evident in the duopoly which has magically changed a capitalist democracy into a form of fascism - the symptoms are not being fully addressed in these IV's: cuts, cuts cuts - and yes: the size & inefficiency of most government programs need to be either cut - or maybe made efficient. But: Revenue increases are the other half, and when two guys who make over a million, and my bet is both of you do...the guy on the right I'll bet is a 10mil+er......its understandable BUT unAmerican. You are lucky to be here, making $ so easily...and because of The Problem...remember it's Political - you guys have been paying less & less of your share. Now, cuts are as much a numbers need as an ethical move, but how about this: Bring back fairly progressive tax rates for both the wealthy and wealthy companies, and give-up on the most immoral of concepts: trickle-down. (licking the BLANK of of a rich mans leg...generating very few taxes & virtually 0 jobs...the lies have been immense on this, but remember the guy on the network tv is wealthy...as are his bosses:

      This fix would be quicker allowing us to fix the gov. oversize over time...but neither of you want that...but, ..
      Taxes:
      0-20k..5%
      20k-50k...10%
      50k-150k....20%
      150k-300k....30%
      300k-1,000,000...40%
      1mil-5mil.............50%
      5mil-25mil.............60%
      25mil+....................64%

      ..if you are not happy with the amounts you would keep...see ya - you are not an American...we can lower these after we get a HUGE surplus and our inequality os adjusted from completely unjust & unfair...to reasonable. This era was created by very unjust & unfair tax rates, as well as ridiculous entitlement programs, but there are these two parts, so be balanced guys, and suck it up - you went along with the cheating, saying 'its the laws & I do not agree'. Soros talks a good game...but does not have the courage to do the right thing: he could just Pay what his secretary pays %wise. The bazilliainaires who do this, with become the political leaders of the future.
    • DesTex  •  9 months ago
      Political Hack alert !!!!! Political Hack alert !!!!!

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