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    Finally, Someone Is Talking Sense On Our Huge Debt And Deficit Problem — President Obama

    From The Business Insider

    Finally, someone in Washington DC is taking a sensible approach to the U.S.'s massive debt and deficit crisis:

    President Obama.

    The Republicans continue to stick to their ludicrous plan to fix our fiscal problems by slashing spending immediately and raising no additional revenue. Over the long haul, spending does need to be cut, but slashing it suddenly will deliver a hammer blow to an already frail economy. The country will plunge back into recession, unemployment will soar, and--importantly from a budget perspective--government revenues will drop. The latter outcome, which we're seeing in Greece, the UK, and other countries that have tried "austerity" as a solution, will defeat the whole purpose of trying to balance the budget by cutting spending. Translation: It won't work. (Editor's note: In the accompanying video, Aaron Task and Dan Gross discuss the debt ceiling debate with Reuters columnist David Kay Johnston, an expert on federal tax policy.)

    But the Democrats' "plan" is no better. The Democrats plan appears to be to ignore the crisis, keep their heads stuffed deep in the sand with respect to Medicare, Social Security, and other spending programs that are bankrupting the country, and jack up taxes only on "the rich." The latter element will have to be part of the solution to our woes, but it won't solve the problem. Spending is going to have to be cut, and taxes are likely going to have to rise for everyone.

    But, at last, someone we sent to Washington to solve our problems is actually putting forth a plan that makes sense.

    According to the Washington Post, President Obama is going to meet with leaders of both parties this morning and advocate a new, long-term approach to the budget crisis, one that goes straight up the middle.

    Specifically, says the Post, the President's plan calls for:

    • Cuts in Medicare spending
    • Social Security reform (presumably raising the eligibility ages)
    • Increases in revenue (read: higher taxes)

    The White House says the new plan will save $4 trillion over the next decade, instead of the $2 trillion in savings estimated from a prior plan. (Take both of these estimates--and any other estimates you hear about any plan from either party--with a huge grain of salt. Such "savings" are usually based on ridiculously optimistic assumptions.)

    Most importantly, this plan would be enacted over the course of the next decade.

    The most dangerous part of the current game of chicken with respect to the deficit is the emphasis on short-term Band-Aids instead of long-term solutions. Although the US's deficit is massive, one or two years won't make much difference over the long haul. Radically cutting spending or jacking up taxes to go "cold turkey" on the problem, meanwhile, will likely clobber the economy and make the situation even worse.

    A more intelligent approach is for both sides to acknowledge the problem and then come up with a long-term middle-of-the-road plan for dealing with it--one that combines both spending cuts and tax increases.

    President Obama appears to be (finally) doing that.

    Now let's hope everyone else we sent to Washington to fix our problems stops shilling for their party platforms and putting the country's credibility on the line to further their own careers. Let's hope that, instead, they actually try to fix something.

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    90 comments

    • Justin Tyme  •  10 months ago
      Default Now, Or Suffer A More Expensive Crisis Later

      Debate over the debt ceiling has
      reached a fever pitch in recent weeks, with each side trying to
      outdo the other in a game of political chicken. If you
      believe some of the things that are being written, the world
      will come to an end if the U.S. defaults on even the tiniest
      portion of its debt.

      In strict terms, the default being discussed will occur if
      the U.S. fails to meet its debt obligations, through failure to
      pay either interest or principal due a bondholder. Proponents of
      raising the debt ceiling claim that a default on Aug. 2 is
      unprecedented and will result in calamity (never mind that this
      is simply an arbitrary date, easily changed, marking a
      congressional recess). My expectations of such a scenario are
      more sanguine.

      The U.S. government defaulted at least three times on its
      obligations during the 20th century.

      -- In 1934, the government banned ownership of gold and
      eliminated the right to exchange gold certificates for gold
      coins. It then immediately revalued gold from $20.67 per troy
      ounce to $35, thus devaluing the dollar holdings of all
      Americans by 40 percent.

      -- From 1934 to 1968, the federal government continued to
      issue and redeem silver certificates, notes that circulated as
      legal tender that could be redeemed for silver coins or silver
      bars. In 1968, Congress unilaterally reneged on this obligation,
      too.

      -- From 1934 to 1971, foreign governments were permitted by
      the U.S. government to exchange their dollars for gold through
      the gold window. In 1971, President Richard Nixon severed this
      final link between the dollar and gold by closing the gold
      window, thus in effect defaulting once again on a debt
      obligation of the U.S. government.

      Unlimited Spending

      No longer constrained by any sort of commodity backing, the
      federal government was now free to engage in almost unlimited
      fiscal profligacy, the only check on its spending being the
      market’s appetite for Treasury debt. Despite the defaults in
      1934, 1968 and 1971, world markets have been only too willing to
      purchase Treasury debt and thereby fund the government’s deficit
      spending. If these major defaults didn’t result in decreased
      investor appetite for U.S. obligations, I see no reason why
      defaulting on a small amount of debt this August would cause any
      major changes.

      The national debt now stands at just over $14 trillion,
      while net total liabilities are estimated at over $200 trillion.
      The government is insolvent, as there is no way that this
      massive sum of liabilities can ever be paid off. Successive
      Congresses and administrations have shown absolutely no
      restraint when it comes to the budget process, and the idea that
      either of the two parties is serious about getting our fiscal
      house in order is laughable.

      Boom and Bust

      The Austrian School’s theory of the business cycle
      describes how loose central bank monetary policy causes booms
      and busts: It drives down interest rates below the market rate,
      lowering the cost of borrowing; encourages malinvestment; and
      causes economic miscalculation as resources are diverted from
      the highest value use as reflected in true consumer preferences.
      Loose monetary policy caused the dot-com bubble and the housing
      bubble, and now is causing the government debt bubble.

      For far too long, the Federal Reserve’s monetary
      policy and quantitative easing have kept interest rates
      artificially low, enabling the government to drastically
      increase its spending by funding its profligacy through new debt
      whose service costs were lower than they otherwise would have
      been.

      Neither Republicans nor Democrats sought to end this gravy
      train, with one party prioritizing war spending and the other
      prioritizing welfare spending, and with both supporting both
      types of spending. But now, with the end of the second round of
      quantitative easing, the federal funds rate at the zero bound,
      and the debt limit maxed out, Congress finds itself in a real
      quandary.

      Hard Decisions

      It isn’t too late
    • Justin Tyme  •  10 months ago
      Ron Paul 2012
    • Troy Holmes  •  10 months ago
      Again...the fake, "Taxes will have to be raised on everyone." The problem is 50% of Americans pay no taxes.....so in effect, the only way to raise taxes on them is to cut the taxes for someone who is actually paying for them in the first place....

      So you said it yourself...cutting spending will work because it actually makes people who pay no taxes share the burden....

      If the government steals less from productive people and penalizes unproductive people we can actually fix this mess....
      • Doug 10 months ago
        If you buy a gallon of gas, you pay federal taxes, If you buy anything, chances are you are paying a federal tax on it. If you work, you are still paying Medicare and SS taxes. The myth of 50% of Americans not paying taxes is a lie perpetuated by the right to make it look like the rich are the only people supporting the country and the economy.
        If you break down the numbers properly, you'll see the lie fall apart faster than a Chinese made power tool.
        What percent of Americans are actually in the workforce? Do you expect toddler to pay income taxes? Is your granny liable for income taxes on her SS checks?
        Facts are pesky things, they tend to make silly fight-wing talking heads look like fools.
      • Richard 10 months ago
        Well put Doug! I'm sick of the posturing based on half truthes myself.
      • sckofbnbroke 10 months ago
        What 50% are you talking about ??!!!!! I make less than 30 k and pay OVER 5000.00 in taxes a year and do not get much of a return even WITH a qualifying child under 16 so whose the 50 %?? the unemployed? the unemployable? ie: toddlers and granny's as I see it the rich get to use all the loopholes tax shelters and overseas accounts to hide money and not pay taxes on it so that MUST be the 50% you are talking about
    • Tailgunnar  •  10 months ago
      This guy talks about federal government deficits and surpluses as entirely the fault or credit of the president alone. Bush was an idiot. His deficits were clearly his fault, but the Democrat led congress signed off on it happily. Clinton is widely given credit for "his" surpluses, but he tried like crazy to pass Hillary-care, and failed because the Contract with America Republicans rammed the thing down his throat and balanced the budget. I could go on and on, but history does not support what this guy is saying.
      • RubyS 10 months ago
        Wrong. The key to Clinton era balanced budgets was Clinton's 2004 budget which did not get a single GOP vote.
      • Kevin 10 months ago
        Clinton borrowed from China to balance the budget and increased withholding tax. So even though salaries increased. take home was less due to increased withholding.
      • TimJ 10 months ago
        RubyS - way to understand the budget process in your own country. The President makes one and that's it. Idiot
    • A Yahoo! User  •  10 months ago
      He has a solution. Wow...isn't that just wonderful, since he's the one that tripled out debt in 2 years in the first place. Is he supposed to be a hero now?
      • Bryan 10 months ago
        Tripled our debt? Um, no.
      • scott b 10 months ago
        you didnt major in math moron. this debt has been expanding since reagan. there have been 3 democratic presidents in the last 42 years you imbecile
      • A Yahoo! User 10 months ago
        Ruth- grow up
    • TimJ  •  10 months ago
      I see the Democratic talking points are all represented. Unfortunately for all Democrats and Liberals ��� We���ve been here before and this is nothing new. You want TAX INCREASES NOW coupled with SPENDING CUTS LATER. Sorry, we���ve been down that road so many times. One of the more historical times was with the Bush Senior presidency (1990) where negotiations got the administration to go back on their pledge of ���No new taxes��� and again spending was increased. For all of the liberals out there (including you Henry Blodget), if you want REVENUE why don���t you focus on CREATING JOBS which will bring in new revenue. Also, the congressman in Florida Marco Rubio has asked, of all the new taxes your proposing, how many JOBS will each one create (IRS jobs do not count)?
      • Aunt Bea 10 months ago
        Amen. Why don't we start with slashing the outrageously high salaries and excess federal jobs (both increased two-fold by Obama)? Then we need to stop the excessively lavish and incessant "vacations" by the entire Obama family and extended entourage. Cut all funding to PBS, ACORN, NPR, etc. and end/prosecute Obama's crony capitalism. (Make GE and propaganda-producer Media Matters pay federal income tax and Congress gives Obama his due--IMPEACHMENT!) WHAT A GREAT START!
      • ptrick 10 months ago
        As a % of GDP, discretionary spending has stayed approximately the same over the past 30 years. We had a surplus going into 2000 that could have been used for the non-discretionary spending that we knew were going to increase because of baby boomers. But because of two wars and deficit spending during the last decade, all that surplus is gone and we now have debt. I rather the rich pay for the mistakes of the last decade than cut my medicare and social security.
      • Aunt Bea 10 months ago
        Amen. Why don't we start with slashing the outrageously high salaries and excess federal jobs (both increased two-fold by Obama)? Then we need to stop the excessively lavish and incessant "vacations" by the entire Obama family and extended entourage. Cut all funding to PBS, ACORN, NPR, etc. and end/prosecute Obama's crony capitalism. (Make GE and propaganda-producer Media Matters pay federal income tax and Congress gives Obama his due--IMPEACHMENT!) WHAT A GREAT START!
    • Smuckers  •  10 months ago
      Finally, Someone Is Talking Sense On Our Huge Debt And Deficit Problem ��� President Obama

      IT SURE ISN'T YOU OBAMA!!! YOU will be looking for a job soon...
      • Joe 10 months ago
        Yup Yup ... can't wait until it's his turn in the unemployment line. He may start to understand what he did to the American middle class. Oh who am I kidding ... he is one rich community organizer and getting richer every day.
      • Aunt Bea 10 months ago
        He's managed to escape having a real job his entire life, being completely unqualified to do ANYTHING.
      • Joe 10 months ago
        Yup Yup ... can't wait until it's his turn in the unemployment line. He may start to understand what he did to the American middle class. Oh who am I kidding ... he is one rich community organizer and getting richer every day.
    • Dan  •  10 months ago
      Everybody should pay taxes. Why should 47% of the people, mostly Democrats, continue to be allowed to sponge off the rest of us?
    • jason  •  10 months ago
      Seriously, This guy is an idiot and a complete joke
    • Say it like you see it  •  10 months ago
      O'bama speaks with forked tongue.
    • Lew  •  10 months ago
      I think our president is INSANE!! His hate for America, our Heritage, and our Constitution has driven him over the edge!! The man maked NO SENSE!!
    • garym  •  10 months ago
      Henry- It is a shame that you have no idea what Obama is really doing. As all 'journalists' these days, you are just a sideline cheerleader with a child-like mentality believing that Obama can fix anything. The reality is that he has no economic background or advisors that have any real world experience. He is depending on socialistic type of 'fixes' that have no merit and have a history of real failure. Please start thinking for yourself.
    • David E.  •  Lenexa, Kansas  •  4 months ago
      Based on his record so far anything Obama says is suspect so I would not count on the
      biggest spender this country has ever had coming up with any viable solution. His own
      appointed commission said cut the spending and all he does is increase spending and print dollars. Stop the mickey mouse accounting and the money printing and balancebudgetnow
    • Lee  •  10 months ago
      Make sense, really? Where's talk of reducing the military budget, farm and oil subsidies. Obama is the best republican money can buy.
    • Clyde  •  10 months ago
      They still say nothing about cutting foreign aid, just cutting social security and medicade. We've been paying into these all our working lives. Not good...
    • harryt  •  10 months ago
      heres an idea what if we did away with all the different pension plans an just had 1 social security. let theses polititions collect the same thing they give their masters the taxpayers s.s. an medicare.why do they think they should be paid some spiecial retirement just because there a public servant ?what company can pay you for life if u work for them for 2 years? yet our so called leaders can vote to do just that for themselves...an most of them are rich an prolly dont need it any how.only time they can all agree is when they vote to increase there pay an retirement .greedy bastids
    • AzBoomer65  •  10 months ago
      Social Security would have been in fine shape if the government hadn't "used up" all the funds. First steal from social security..then blame them for running out of money. !0 billion a month for Afghan war is just stupid and a waste. 10 years and the Afghans are not prepared to defend themselves..more training is needed..WHY? Boot camp is 6 months and the men are trained..
    • O  •  10 months ago
      Why is Social Security and Medicare the frist things they have their eyes on? Attacking the most vunerable in society.

      Forcing people to work until they are (67)damn near dead to pay for the misdeeds of the rich; instead of stopping your spending and giving tax breaks too rich people. Creating tax loop holes. Why would anyone create a loop hole anyway? That is fraudlent deceptive behavior
    • John R  •  10 months ago
      NO REVENUE INCREASE (called tax increase) until AFTER the spending cuts. Too many times the Dems have promised to cut spending later if they just got a tax increase now. Problem is that they always INCREASE spending. Repubs have been just as bad.

      The increase to the borrowing limit shoud be limited to 50% of real spending cuts. After the cuts have been made I would consider tax increases, but on EVERYONE. Return all tax rates for all income levels to the Clinton levels.
    • Fred  •  10 months ago
      Defense is 700 billion per year not counting the 2,3 or 4 wars we have going on. can someone please tell me why this can't be cut. SS and medicare have been paid for by the working mans taxes SS is good til 37, so this is not what is causing the debt problem now. If we do not cut defense now in 5 years it will be gone anyway because the country will be bankrupt right, same thing they use for SS. I really would like to know how anyone can honestly justify cutting SS and not defense, especially when most of the money is spent overseas fighting wars in countries that do not want us there and the war is a lost cause anyway

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