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    Kudos To Paul Ryan And The GOP For Acknowledging Our Budget Mess

    Rep. Paul Ryan's (R-WI) plan to cut the budget deficit makes some laughable assumptions and leaves many questions unanswered:
    Namely, where the $4.4 trillion of the $6.2 trillion of "savings" are going to come from.

    Ryan doesn't have the balls to actually specify these cuts: He just proposes capping federal spending at 20% of GDP. In the absence of specifics, saying that the plan will save $6.2 trillion over 10 years is misleading.

    But Ryan and the Republicans deserve a lot of credit for at least acknowledging the huge fiscal mess the United States is in and proposing specific long-term remedies for dealing with it.

    For the last several years, the United States has acted as though it can have everything forever: All the services and benefits everyone wants while also cutting taxes. The country's $1.6 trillion ANNUAL deficit, combined with debt approaching 100% of GDP (which doesn't even factor in future healthcare and Social Security liabilities) reveal that this is a pipe dream. (See: A Short Course On Why The US Is Screwed)

    What can't go on forever won't. Our leaders have a duty to acknowledge the problem and propose a way out--even if the solutions are temporarily unpopular.

    (That's what true leadership is, by the way: Doing the right thing even when it's unpopular, and finding a way to get folks to follow and support you because you can make them understand that it's the right thing).

    The Republicans and Paul Ryan are at least taking steps in this direction. They are acknowledging our problem and proposing concrete steps to deal with it.

    The Democrats, meanwhile, are just stuffing their heads in the sand.

    This year's budget negotiations are pretty much irrelevant. Whether this year's budget cuts $30 billion of spending or $60 billion, the savings will be a rounding error on the overall deficit.

    The Democrats have yet to even acknowledge the massive long-term problem the country faces, let alone propose to solutions to it.

    We understand and respect the concern about whacking the budget in the midst of a fragile recovery--it's a valid one. If the Democrats were defending the minor cuts in this year's budget by proposing them in conjunction with a compelling long-term plan, we'd be more sympathetic.

    As it is, we can only conclude the following: The Democrats are still dreaming of a perpetual free lunch. (And they'll do and say anything to get re-elected.)

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    32 comments

    • Tom  •  1 year 1 month ago
      The government spending cap isn't a bad idea. Under Clinton it was about 18% and then of course it went up to 23% under GWB and 24% under Obama. I'd add the caveat though that it should increase in down cycles and decrease in up cycles. So when the economy is humming it should decrease to(ward) some predetermined floor and when the economy sputters it should increase. The overall average could be 20% or whatever the big brained number crunches decide is an appropriate target.
      • Someone other than you 1 year 1 month ago
        Thank you. A sensible statement. I get tired of the venom coming from both sides. Your post was refreshing and valid.
      • Chet 1 year 1 month ago
        Get some airtime this election season - stay away from personal decisions - go forward with your COMMON SENSE plan - and you got my vote for sure.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  1 year 1 month ago
      Are they afraid to cut military spending and bring home the troops because there are no jobs? Is that the giant elephant in the halls of Congress?
      • SammyDarlin 1 year 1 month ago
        Yes, they are afraid to cut the budget because much of their contributions come from the Defense Industry, or Military Industrial Complex that Eisenhower warned about.

        They are afraid because they have no idea how to govern, and that is why they all use exactly the same phrases in their scripted talking points, and never answer a direct question as they cannot justify what they are proposing, and therefore immediately go to their script, no matter what the question.

        CFTC overseas the futures trading. A group of Republicans INVITED a group of Republicans to come to their Congressional Meeting and answer their questions. (Related to the rising gas prices as related to Futures Speculation).
        All of the Republicans answering their questions stated that if the Republicans insisted on cutting back the funding for the CFTC, you will see $6.00 gas prices.
        Guess what? On Boehner's Web Site they refused to report this, and are trying to act as if it never happened.

        That is how they operate.
      • Harry 1 year 1 month ago
        Annie, you are on to something. Liberals like to bash the military industrial complex but the truth is the welfare state and the military industrial complex go hand in hand. Vietnam escalated and the war on poverty started at roughly the same time. Look at the money bush threw around during the war in iraq. Without the military industrial complex the whole thing collapses.
      • Nancy 1 year 1 month ago
        Depends on how you run the numbers. Total defense spending is very high - somewhere around $700 billion ($0.7 trillion) - that includes the wars, gov't R&D, and money spent on equipment ("procurement"). The "military complex" makes their money on procurement. Note that procurement is only $135 billion. That's $0.135 trillion for the math-challenged out of a $1.6T deficit and $3+ Trillion budget.
        So if we had no procurement, the yearly deficit would still be $1.5T.

        And even if ALL defense spending was magically cut to zero, we'd save $700B, and our yearly deficit would be 1.6 - .7 = $0.9Trillion = $900B (that's still 2x higher than Bush's then record $400b deficit by the way). Now that Republicans, especially the tea party, have control of one house, the deficits will hopefully trend downwards just as they eventually did under Clinton after Repubicans finally gained control of Congress. Really need control of both houses though, of course.

        A big part of the problem is that Americans are ignorant frankly, so polititians can say anything. See the recent survey where people had no clue how little is spent on foriegn aid for example?

        Most spending is the never ending stimulous, Social Security, and Medicaid/Medicare. Which of those do you want to drastically cut?
    • scott b  •  1 year 1 month ago
      none of these politicians has a clue what they are doing. they are just reacting to lobbyists money
      • Confushis 1 year 1 month ago
        Soooo. What lobbyist lobbied for a 6 trillion dollar cut....I don't think a 6 trillion dollar cut is reacting to lobbyists --- unless you consider the American tax payer a lobbyist..... Good for Ryan.......
      • STEVE 1 year 1 month ago
        They know what they are doing. The only reason they're talking about budget cuts is to get money from someone.
    • David  •  1 year 1 month ago
      Budget deficits and debt cannot be solved without cutting defence, medicare, medicaid and welfare funding. Even if they cut 500 billion a year, it takes another 28 years to solve the debt problem.
    • Risk Prof  •  1 year 1 month ago
      And the Democrat alternative, to leave things just as they are? That's a road to ruin.
    • an0n  •  1 year 1 month ago
      gotta love the bullsh#t that they include in a budget plan! how is stopping to fund abortions in DC going to have any impact on the budget???

      they give tax breaks to millionaires (which they want to make permanent) yet they fire teachers. nice job repubs.
      • A Yahoo! User 1 year 1 month ago
        Congress doesn't fire teachers, you @#$%.
      • STEVE 1 year 1 month ago
        Refusing to pay for them (they have been paying for them so far) is the same thing as firing them.
      • Nancy 1 year 1 month ago
        Hardly are teachers paid by the federal gov't - take some classes. The feds gave some money, but it's very minor. Schools are funded mostly by states and local school districts.
        Note that Dems have controlled both houses and the WH for the past few years, under which deficits have been 4x higher than Bush's then record deficits, so your party has 100% FAILED.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  1 year 1 month ago
      The cuts only look massive because we've had massive increases in spending. Simply go back to 2006 levels of spending and the budget balances in a few short years.

      Remember when the Democrats said 2006 levels of spending were "outrageous" and "unsustainable"? Now suddenly those same levels of spending are "draconian cuts" that are so bad even the dead will suffer. :P
    • CZ  •  1 year 1 month ago
      Kill medicare, medicaid and social security -- socialist plans anyway. Institute those death panels we heard so much about, especially for old nutjob republicans. Close the public schools. That should take care of the deficit, and leave money left over for fat contracts for General Dynamics, and big raises at the pentagon.

      It'll be interesting: when 95% of the populace is living in poverty, will they then start to vote in their own best interest? Or will they keep blabbering "socialism bad, tax breaks for the wealthy good?"
      • Alouisis 1 year 1 month ago
        Smartest comment on the board!
      • Nancy 1 year 1 month ago
        The plans will be all killed once the gov't goes bankrupt - us that what you want? Or how about fixing the programs to be affordable as responsible adults, not children looking for handouts?
    • Earl  •  1 year 1 month ago
      The GOP cant fix 14 trillion and continue to not tax the rich! These politicans can talk all they want. they can act like they know what they are doing. But there is no way to fix 14 trillion! You can say that you can do it, then you can come up with a plan. The very next year you will find a way to spend billions policing the world. Inflation will hit us very soon and there will be no way to fix what we have let our politicans do. We will continue as a nation, but we will have to over haul almost everything that we do. The soviet union did it trying to keep up with us, now we have to pay the piper for spending money like we could afford everything.
    • Anonymous263  •  1 year 1 month ago
      Republicans plan to turn Medicare into vouchers and then funnel the money to the pockets of private insurers. Medicaid and Food Stamps become block grants so states can ignore the poor. Meanwhile money for schools, roads, and the nation's rotting infrastructure will be cut - DRASTICALLY. Not yet in the budget, but Republicans are also planning to "save Social Security" by converting it to accounts managed by Wall Street.

      But it's NOT all bad -- while YOU suffer -- the rich get MORE tax cuts.
    • David  •  1 year 1 month ago
      This plan, though far from perfect, is at least a start that approaches the magnitude of cuts we need to make. After we get over the "sticker shock" for the sheer size of the plan, we might be able to consider how to rearrange the plan without gutting it and how to keep the necessary magnitude but reach agreement on where to make the cuts. This is the first publicly announced plan that approaches the magnitude of our problem with a solution of like magnitude. For that reason alone, it and its author deserve our respect and thanks.
    • IvanG  •  1 year 1 month ago
      This writer is an incredible fool, a scoundrel, or both. Ryan and Co. cut off funding sources by putting the fix in for our wealthiest citizens and then they complain there's not enough money. It's a policy that kills our future. They starve education, health, and social services and are rapidly turning us into a banana republic run in behalf of the plantation owners.
    • Jessy  •  1 year 1 month ago
      Where Was Paul Ryan when this mess first began? This just didn't happen in the last two years. Instead of complaining and pointing fingers all of you should be coming together to find a common solution,that would help people survive in this day and age. But the rich want to keep getting richer while the poor keep getting poorer.
    • Kevin  •  1 year 1 month ago
      What lightweight nonsense. The Republicans are deeply unserious about cutting the deficit. They are still the party whose guiding philosophy is, as Dick Cheney told Paul O'Neill, "Reagan was right. Deficits don't matter". No kudos are deserved for Ryan and Co. He cuts spending, two thirds on the backs of poor people, and cuts taxes, mainly, yet again,for the rich. We need medical cost containment, medical cost containment, medical cost containment, (so-called Obamacare is a good first step and would have been better if the Republicans had engaged), major scale backs on defense and taxes raised back to the levels of the prosperous years of the Clinton Presidency, when we were on the way to reducing the deficit.
    • Alouisis  •  1 year 1 month ago
      The budget problem can be expressed in one word - DEFENSE.

      One half of our taxes go to this complete waste of money. That is the truth everyone fails to acknowledge. It is not pensions or public employee wages. It is not Medicare or Social Security. It is money wasted on bombs, boats and planes we could do very well without along with over 1,000 overseas military installations. Now that is just crazy.
    • Glenn  •  1 year 1 month ago
      OBAMA LIES: BALANCE THE BUDGET.....BRING THE TROOPS HOME....CLOSE GITMO.....REDUCE HEALTHCARE COST BY ADDING 135 MILLION MORE TO IT....WHAT A PACK OF LIES....RYAN FOR PRESIDENT IN 2012 !!!!!!!
    • Henry  •  1 year 1 month ago
      I was Republican in the past, however I can not ethically ever be a Republican again. Kudos to Paul Ryan the most useless Representative alive. Give me a break.

      This is what Republican Paul Ryan is proposing as a legitimate "budget rider" and why democrats won't go with these ridiculous "riders"

      They want to eliminate Medicare completely and give everyone $5,000 to buy health care on the open market

      The average person on SS Income is making $19,000 year for income. How do you think that will work?

      Retirees on Medicare will be spending more than 50% of their money on medical cost or will not be able to afford any medical care at all.

      The elected officials all knew the baby boomers were coming all 92 million of us. Do they think we will just sit on our hands and do nothing after paying all our lives for SS. I think not. In 2012 the republicans will see just how powerful we are when we vote as a block.

      Cut the 1 trillion proposed defense budget for 2012 to 500 billion and put these wars back on the books and account for the spending. The republicans can keep trotting out this nonsense to protect their rich friends or they can get real and start fixing the mess they created right along with the Dem���s.

      I believe the individual millionaires, the CEO's of these big companies, should be paying more tax, instead of getting tax breaks . (not speaking of corporations- they need to be handled separately)

      Did you know many of the biggest corporation���s like GE, Bank of America, and most of the Oil companies, not only pay zero income tax, Additionally they get huge income tax credits from our federal government when they file their taxes. As you know these same banks like Bank of America, and institutions considered to have banking interests, like GE, and GMAC received huge bail-out money and Tarp money from us as well , the U.S. taxpayers. Yet republicans believe they should have no "responsibility" to the American citizens what so ever ?

      Now, with all the huge profits from their businesses these corporations get, which they "supposedly earned" from selling to United States consumers, and with our Income Tax Credits to these same businesses, and Zero income tax (because they base themselves in other countries) Republicans now believe they need to take away any and all benefits (income to public employees , public assistance for low income people), there-by shifting the burden of all public and community services to our country's lowest and middle income people..... Rather than getting additional income from the "disgustingly rich" people of this country to help support the very people they are ripping off and getting rich off of.

      Additionally, I will never buy General Motors vehicles again either. After taking their billions of taxpayer's money, they used that money to build employment and plants in China and other overseas nations. How is that an American company? ( I used to sell GM cars as a salesperson)

      PS: Greg you have been drinking the kool aid way to long. Open your eyes and look at what is happening and who is being punished so the rich can have their tax breaks. If the rich don���t want to pay their fair share then they should denounce their US citizenship and get out before they are thrown out.
    • I.F.  •  1 year 1 month ago
      But Ryan and the Republicans deserve a lot of credit for at least acknowledging the huge fiscal mess the United States is in and proposing specific long-term remedies for dealing with it.Nonsense, Blodget. Those GOP clowns didn't give a hoot about the debt when they were running it up with wars for the rich, tax cuts for the rich, and deregulation for the rich.

      Now they propose to pay for it all with trillions in further cuts for the rich and cuts in services for everyone else.

      It's disgraceful. Our major problem is unemployment, not the debt. You're just echoing the blather of well-paid, inside the Beltway talking heads. In other words, lying idiots.
      ~
    • SammyDarlin  •  1 year 1 month ago
      Who was the last Republican president to balance the budget?

      Eisenhawer
    • Tanya  •  1 year 1 month ago
      Yes, let's admire Paul Ryan's balls...

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