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    Never Mind the Bailouts: Greece Can’t Pay Its Debts and the EU Doesn’t Work

    Hopes for a Greek bailout were dashed this weekend, or at least deferred, as EU finance ministers delayed approving a $17 billion package slated for July.

    The $17 billion tranche was part of the original 110 billion euro ($154 billion) Greek bailout approved last year by the EU-IMF, which proved only a temporary reprieve to Greece's core issue: They don't have enough money to repay their debts.

    Without the funding, Greece will likely default on a debt payment due in mid-July. By withholding the funds, EU ministers are hoping to force Greece to adopt a package of big spending cuts and higher taxes. Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou is asking Parliament to support the austerity package, provided his government survives tomorrow's scheduled vote of confidence.

    Judging by the fates of ruling parties in Portugal, Ireland and other parts of the EU, the survival of Papandreou's government is by no means certain, although a cabinet reshuffling last week was designed to shore up support.

    For the past 15 months, the hope in Europe — and the financial markets -- was the original bailout would build a "ring fence" around Greece and buy time for Portugal, Spain and Italy to get their fiscal houses in order. Unfortunately, the ring fence is starting to crumble: On Friday, Moody's said Italy's debt rating could be downgraded, citing concern that Greek's debt crisis will drive up borrowing costs.

    As Henry and I discuss in the accompanying video, it's become increasingly evident the best course of action would be for Greece to exit the EU. Monetary union is preventing countries like Greece from using currency devaluation to address big deficits, while simultaneously forcing taxpayers in Germany to help pay for the spendthrift ways of the so-called "Club Med" countries.

    But taking Humptey Dumpty apart is proving almost as difficult as putting it together and fearing of a European banking crisis is preventing policymakers from forcing bondholders to take their medicine, something many believe is long overdue.

    As The Telegraph reports, some U.K. banks, including Barclays and Standard Chartered, have "radically reduced" the amount of loans they're willing to make to eurozone banks. This makes perfect sense for the U.K. banks but echoes the counterparty-risk concerns that were so central to the crisis of 2008. That's a big reason why U.S. Treasury yields continue to fall despite widespread concern about Fed policy and America's own huge debt and deficit problems.

    Aaron Task is the host of The Daily Ticker. You can follow him on Twitter at @atask or email him at altask@yahoo.com

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    102 comments

    • GrafB  •  11 months ago
      Amazing, isn't it. When G.Bush took office to begin destroying the US the dollar bought 1.30+ euros. When he left the dollar was only worth 0.70 euros. So, in the last decade the world markets have decided that however bad the disaster in Greece things are far worse in America which refuses to pay for everything. A US economy without taxes is looking like a banana republic with rotting infrastructure - falling bridges, pot-holed roads, laughable alternative transit systems moving at snail speeds.
      Remember who brought Greece's figures into line in order to enter the EU - Goldman Sachs. The best solution will probably be a sharing of pain from all parties.
      • Free 11 months ago
        well said screw the money hungry jews!
      • Q 11 months ago
        The original Euro was priced less than the dollar so that the dollar would buy more than 1 Euro even though it was probably worth more than a dollar, They had to because it was an untrusted new baby of a currency. The big money knew that if they supported the Euro it would go from undervalued initially to true parity and they could pocket some profits on the trade. Now they have a political bias against the US because our Constitution gets in the way of their world domination. And there is also the speculative element.

        Banana republic you say? From ear to ear Obama is grinning with Marxism and deficits until he puts down hard this country that he loathes so much. With that goon in the White House you may be right on that one.
    • Joe  •  11 months ago
      If it smells like a fart, it is most likely a fart!

      The world did not end when Russia went broke! Let the chips fall where they may. Fix the problem and stop playing accounting games!

      Joe
      • Mr. X 11 months ago
        They will not fix anything. All they will do is default and then play the same game again. Some sucker will buy their bonds and few decades down the road they will be in the same boat again.
      • frankmargel.com 11 months ago
        Simply smart rhymes with f..t, thanks for the post! Thumbs up!
      • 1776 not 1984 11 months ago
        Iceland told the bankers to go &%$# themselves.
    • Cpt Insano  •  11 months ago
      Would they just go bankrupt already so I don't have to see this same ole story every 6 months. Kicking the can down the road.
      • Impaler 11 months ago
        lol my sentiments exactly though it sucks for them
      • Emerson 11 months ago
        Don't worry, the anarchists have a plan.
      • Michael 11 months ago
        as greece goes, there goes the rest of us. Tired of hearing this story? wait till it happens to us.
    • Travis  •  11 months ago
      Whoever lent them money (mostly banks) should lose their investment.
      Why are they treated so special that they are never allowed to lose money on their investments?
      • GregoryP 11 months ago
        Because when a manufacturer is tight on money they go to the bank, when the manufacturing sector is tight on money they go the bank, when a bank is tight on money they go to another bank, but where does the whole banking sector go whent they are tight on money?

        Greeces debt is big enought to topple a couple banks, those banks collapsing will collaspe a few more and so on... until... nothing... everything you've worked and saved for... worthless... enjoy the car you drive, the shoes your wearing and the food you have at home... because that may be all there ever will be.
      • dilly 11 months ago
        So your logic is that the only way our economy can function is with banks? I am not saying that the isn't a role for banks as clearing houses for payments or to finance capital projects, but if the use of credit to fund current expenses is a substantial part of the current economic mess. If you ran a business and knew that you could not run to the bank to get a loan (like most small business now) you would start saving and prepare for the slower times.
    • Valhalla360  •  11 months ago
      This is like the idea of solving mortgage problems by playing with the interest rates. If the deadbeat only makes $30,000/yr, it doesn't matter what the interest rate is, they will never be able to pay off a $1,000,000 loan.
      -
      Germany either needs to pay off a portion of the greek debt or set up an organized default. Either one will cost germany. Paying it off may be a clearner solution since they could easily lose control in an organized default and destroy the euro.
      • Dave 11 months ago
        "And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
        But we���ve proved it again and again,
        That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
        You never get rid of the Dane. "
    • Rock Solid Truth  •  11 months ago
      Remember the tsunami.....for weeks there was no meltdown...this was not chernobyl.
      We now know ALL THREE cores melted........duh !!!!

      Everyone has been saying for weeks this is not Lehman.
      It sure looks like Lehman to me.

      The concern is how to save the Euro....how to prevent a bank run on the entire Eurozone.
      This has nothing to with Greece. Even if they vote to agree on the austerity which seems completely ridiculous......the people simply won't and can't make it happen...they just don't have any purchasing power to make their economy go. It is Lehman.

      this is about saving the Euro....and has nothing to do with Greece.......Greece ijust a sideshow to keep the larger issue out of the mainstream view.

      I am thinking the train has left the station.....and behind the scenes the major players are already implementing their exit stategies........quietly and covertly.
    • Doctor Gino  •  11 months ago
      Many American analysts talk about the catastrophic economic situation in Europe, namely in Greece, Portugal, Ireland and Spain. They have been saying the the Eurozone is facing disastrous financial problems and that the Euro is in big trouble. Do they know that the value of the American dollar has decreased by 50-60% against the European currency and also a large percentage against the Swiss frank, Canadian dollar, British pound, to name a few? Americans who travel/vacation in these countries feel poor and humiliated. The American dollar does not buy much! It seems to me that the American government is not doing anything to change this situation. Perhaps we should worry about our own economy, finances and currency, and correct our problems before judging/analyzing other countries' precarious situation.
    • EM  •  11 months ago
      The only thing keeping the USA afloat right now is that the rest of the world is even more f'd up.
    • XX  •  11 months ago
      You think this isn't going to happen to US?

      Last year, the United States government paid roughly $400 billion in interest on the national debt alone. Just to give you an idea, it���s like a guy making $21,000 of income per year, borrowing $14,000, because he has to spend $35,000 on expenses. And of those expenses, $4,000 is just interest on credit cards. How much longer do you think such a person can borrow when he only makes 60% of what he spends, and his interest payments eat up almost 20% of what he makes?
    • Common Sense  •  11 months ago
      Investors are happy to pretend that these sovereign problems are gone. Greece, as well as Portugal, Ireland, & Iceland, has no plan to repay its debts. Ultimately, Greece will default and the investors will pay for these irresponsible actions. Buyer beware!
    • gAWD  •  11 months ago
      The EU makes it a requirement for admission that a country must be free of corruption. It did not follow the rule by admitting Bulgaria and Romania.
      The EU also does not kick out member countries that become corrupt or are corrupt like the other two, and Greece.
      So, of course the non corrupt states will have to take up the slack of the corrupt ones.
    • Thomas  •  11 months ago
      Excellent straight-shooting Henry and Aaron!
    • Money Multiplier Man  •  11 months ago
      So if they leave the EU, even their current debts no longer have to be paid in euros?
    • Chuck Brownly  •  11 months ago
      Problem is this time, the USA is in deep on all of this...our banks and the IMF are heavily involved. We are at a tipping point people! This whole house of cards could come crashing down on EVERYBODY real soon!
    • Plato  •  11 months ago
      In a Modern World please remember the Old World quotetion:
      " The Truth of The World is written in numbers!"
      Aristotles

      Cheers!
    • Andrew The great  •  11 months ago
      Lehman Brothers ( original shareholder in the FED--Euro Trash roots ) failed at debt/equity of 38:1.

      Nice work INBREDS.
    • Jill Q.  •  11 months ago
      So, so many server errors on yahoo finance comments. Looks like outsourcing all those engineering jobs to India is really starting to catch up with you Yahoo!

      Are you kidding me? After months and months these so called "engineers/developers" can't fix these simple exceptions? I don't think India is such athreat now after all!!! LOL!!!!
    • Lono  •  11 months ago
      The banks made a bad loan decision. Screw 'em. Why should the people of Greece, or the US for that matter, pay for the bankers' problems? Do like Argentina: default and then work back up. Unfortunately for the US, there is barely any industry here to work back from: 50 years of corporatist dreams come true.
    • chad  •  11 months ago
      I thought Paul Krugman told me that the more the government spends, the richer the economy. Greece has been doing some big-time "stimulus" .... are you telling me that doesn't work?
    • Dave  •  11 months ago
      so much for socialism having the way to solve the financial issues of Greece. the Greeks that are rioting have lost their desire to fix things themselves by ousting the socialists and get their economy running by working like capitalists. The problems in US are similar, politicians keep spending to get votes, who cares if it is borrowed money. i hear the piper playing.

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