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    Occupy Wall Street: The Youth Perspective

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    For over a month, The Daily Ticker has extensively covered the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations by trying to shed light on who the protesters are and what exactly it is they hope to change. (See: Occupy Wall Street: What's It All About?)

    Since Occupy Wall Street has been more of a youth movement -- a phenomenon not seen in this country for decades -- Daniel Gross, Yahoo! Finance economics editor, wanted to gain perspective from an actual "young person" today.

    "What should old folks like me make of the scene at Occupy Wall Street?" Dan asks of Noreen Malone, a 27-year-old writer for New York magazine who recently wrote the cover story "It Sucks to Be Us" on what it is like to be a 20-something college graduate today. (See: The Economic Agony of Today's Twenty-Somethings)

    "I actually think that the mode of protest is something that is more of a call back to earlier generations," she says. "The manner of demonstration certainly looks a lot like the '60s, and so I think that is one reason why actually … a lot of older people have been pretty enthusiastic, even if they are not out there … demonstrating and sleeping in Zuccotti Park."

    From the outset, the protesters have gotten a lot of criticism for lack of leadership and lack of voice on the issues they are fighting for. It may be hard to pinpoint one problem, but Malone does believe there is an overarching theme gripping the demonstrators.

    "For the young people who are out there day in and day out … what is getting them out there is pretty visceral economic hurt," she says. "Many of them are stories of people who have college degrees … they have a huge amount of loans and they have found themselves unable to get jobs, and that's why they can find time to spend in Zuccotti Park or wherever they are protesting."

    For additional coverage, see:

    Occupy Wall Street: What's It All About?

    Occupy Wall Street Gains Traction: "The Message is Definitely Getting Out

    Randall Lane: Wall St. Protestors Don't Hate Success, They Hate Big Rewards for Failure

    Taken to Task: Occupy Wall Streets Nattering Nabobs of Negativity

    Forget Wall Street, Protesters Should "Occupy Congress," Says Mauldin

    The Top 5 Facts About America's Richest 1%

    Occupy Wall Street Shows People Want Democracy, Not Corporatocracy: Jeffrey Sachs

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    602 comments

    • Logic2009  •  6 months ago
      The opportunities are still there for the 20-somethings who did their homework before deciding on a major. All I have seen in the headlines for the past 15 years is the increasing needs for engineers, medical personnel, accountants. And what did a lot of these protesters go and do? Pursue liberal arts degrees, studying the social elements of Peruvian civilizations in 1500 BC. Now seriously, who would hire a non-functioning degreed person? Not that those majors aren't interesting, but they really don't bring anything to the table in business. 18-year olds of today.....LISTEN no more degrees in Sociology. Pursue the fields where there will be job growth into the foreseeable future.
      • Dave W 6 months ago
        Absolutely correct. Not all degrees are created equal. In fact some of them are likely to be destructive to your lifetime earnings ... they cost a lot of money and they burn time when you could have been earning money instead of spending it. 4 years is a lot of lost income. If you spent $100k on tuition and assume $100k in lost earnings over 4 years you're looking at a starting deficit of $200k, which is accruing interest at at least 6%. What job are you going to get that's going to provide a return on that investment? It's like starting your career with a mortgage, but nowhere to live!
      • Kupa 6 months ago
        The only jobs left are in Alabama's and Georgia's vegetable fields. However, you are wrong about liberal arts. If Americans learn history they would be more aware of events that led to the collapse of earlier empires, like Rome and Spain, and England. History tends to repeat itself with tragic consequences to ignorant.
      • Logic2009 6 months ago
        Yes, Kupa, true, education about history is important. I learned in high school all about our great nation, and how it was founded, and the free, capitalistic principles upon which our economy is based. They also taught the financial dangers of socialism. The collapses in Rome and Spain are due to union-bargaining, union-pensions, union-early retirement, and negative population growth, couple that and having legislators without cahunas and you get bankruptcy. You don't need a degree in history to know that. You can simply peruse the internet and learn or remember high school. Surely they haven't dumbed down high school to a liberal level? Hey this might explain things actually......
    • StevenE  •  6 months ago
      This did not clarify a single issue around the OWS protests. You could have made just as strong a message by saying "college students are sad."

      How many of these students racked up $10's of thousands in debt getting majors in psychology, french, or gender-studies? There is a shortage of accountants right now... all the students who decided that getting an in-demand degree at a decent school are spending their time choosing which job offer is best for them, rather than camping out on Wall Street's front lawn, chanting about their dire situation. Nurses are being courted with hiring bonuses right out of school. Engineering students are being snatched up by tech companies looking to expand after the global retraction.

      If you can tell me how your cultural studies major is marketable or worth anything to anyone, then you're already half-way done with a business plan for your own venture. Now take the energy you're spending by shouting, holding signs, and playing the bongo's on wall street, and use it instead to execute on that plan.
      • Logic2009 6 months ago
        Well said, Steven. If your post is all they read and learn from it, they will have improved their lives significantly today.
      • STEVE 6 months ago
        What you say is true, but it doesn't justify outsourcing, nor the pay executives seem to think that they deserve while paying their workers next to nothing.
      • Kupa 6 months ago
        "Engineering students are being snatched up by tech companies looking to expand after the global retraction" I do not speak Mandareen (Chinees), i am doomed. .
    • Rich  •  6 months ago
      after college I waited tables, mowed lawns, dug ditches, and cleaned building after hours to make ends meet. I didn't expect the government to take money from someone else and give it to me. I worked at whatever I could find and eventually worked my way up in business. Now I am SE and employ 6 people. These kids have no sense of hard work and sacrifice.
      • Michael 6 months ago
        How about all of your generations greed with they housing market....do we need to pay for that as younger generations....it appears that the older generation does expect the government to take money from someone else and help with that.
      • Law-abiding Citizen 6 months ago
        There were plenty of 20-somethings that took on mortgages they couldn't service...blame them too.
      • PigsAtTheTrough 6 months ago
        Yeah yeah - we know, you walked to school barefoot in the snow - uphill - both ways. #$%$
    • Scott  •  6 months ago
      Watched the news last night and there is a substantial shortage of apple pickers in Washington State. The problem with this 20-someting generation is that they think just because they get a college degree they are too good for manual labor or a job that "just pays the bills". One farmer in Washington pays $150/day for pickers. Note to 20-somrthings with worthless degrees in latin american studies, communications, gender studies, psycology, etc...--your degrees don't qualify you for doing anything other than picking fruit, sweeping floors or digging ditches so get your butts in gear and stop waiting for the dream job that will never materialize.
      • Kupa 6 months ago
        You are right. There are also jobs in Alabama's and Georgia's vegetable fields. Just the problem is they pay less then minimal wages with no benefits like medicare.
      • Logic2009 6 months ago
        Less than minimum wage? Really Kupa? You have absolutely no idea, do you? They will pay whatever wage will get their produce picked. Sure it means higher prices at the grocery stores, but that is the price of doing business. And since when is Medicare a benefit of working? It is a tax on your paycheck, not a benefit. Medicare kicks in when you are old enough to collect it.
      • R.Way 6 months ago
        Loggers in Oregon go begging for work, while the Fed gvmt. accepts the bids of companies that advertise for workers OUT OF STATE, IN ESPANOL!

        Nothing to see here, folks. This game isn't rigged. Go on about your business... until it's your job on the line!
    • dk  •  6 months ago
      Im 22, posting from my office right now because instead of wasting time I actually worked hard for a 4.0 then did the work and talked to the people necessary to find a 50k job right out of graduation
      • YFU Number One 6 months ago
        Who cares what you did? You're just a punky little braggart. Get lost.
      • John 6 months ago
        Good for you, Dk.
      • dk 6 months ago
        you should care unless you want the future of the country to be nothing but people who would rather complain about a situation instead of realizing that they are in control of their own lives and can take the steps to fix it
    • John S  •  6 months ago
      My kids school has two whole different group of actors for the school play.. done on consecutive nights. Why? So EVERYBODY gets a part. Nobody is told they do not have the right or best skills, until they get out in the real world. Then they sulk and live in a park near wall street.
    • Money  •  6 months ago
      Their parents never taught these kids self-reliance, determination, motivation, work hard and play harder, earning a living has perks in life, start at the bottom and work your way up the ladder, the game of life isn't always easy, sometime you have to work outside of your career field, common sense matters, wearing masks in public places is illegal in most cities, learn the rules of the game before you start playing, professionals don't like amatuers trying to change the rules of the game when they have no experience.
    • David  •  6 months ago
      There's plenty of jobs in Alabama working on the farms that used to employ hard working hispanics. Put on your big boy pants a work your #$%$ off for an honest wage!!!!!
    • Harley  •  6 months ago
      Get ready for a Revolution. Its coming. I'd hate to be a Politician that Voted for Free Trade, NAFTA, or CAFTA, or a CEO that took the Bailout Money as a Raise & Bonus, or a CEO or Owner of a Big Company that Moved Their good paying American Jobs to a Foreign Country for Cheep Slave Labor. The Democrats & Republicans are the Same with different Names & Both parties are Owned by Big Business & Both Parties Voted for Free Trade & put America in this mess.
    • John S  •  6 months ago
      Did anyone tell them they are being used by Soros?
    • Rabble Rouser  •  6 months ago
      For such a motivated and educated group, it's unfortunate they advocate for stupid, self-interested things like total student loan forgiveness. Where's the self-responsibility? No one forces a person to throw thousands at an overpriced education. Learning a skill early in life, an ability to think on one's feet, working well with others and some willingness to follow directions and offer intelligent solutions are what employers want... And if there are no jobs, start your own business doing whatever people are willing to shell out for in this economy. There are literally millions of ways to serve others. Try some!
    • Optimist  •  6 months ago
      I hear violins !
    • Reverend Rob  •  6 months ago
      Attention Generation #$%$ Just because you have been handed a degree for completing the four year party/baby-sitting service known as American higher education, you are not entitled to anything. Real jobs that make real money require real work. Just because nobody is offering you a free pay check to use your Sociology, Literature, or Art degree doesn't mean you can't work. There are tables to be cleared, floors to be swept, coffee to be served, copies to be made, phones to be answered, shelves to be stocked, pizzas to be delivered, etc. There is even a job out there cleaning up your #$%$ off of the park grass. I know that you feel that labor is beneath you, but maybe if you just get out there and work hard, have pride, and do it with a smile, better opportunities will come along. If you were on the other end of the interview desk, who would you rather hire? The hard working young person working two jobs, washing dishes and stocking shelves, or the smelly complainer camping in a public park and defecating in the bushes? You’ve had your “time off” from college. You’ve made your noise. Now it is time to go out there and find a job that is far beneath you and work hard. Every job you have from that point on will only get better. Then some day, you can take your kids to the park to play Frisbee with the dog and point out to your kids the spot that you used to sleep and show them where you used to #$%$ right behind the bush just like your dog, Barrack, is doing.
    • Charlie  •  6 months ago
      What happened to the times when people would take any work to support their college education. I know I worked up to three jobs at a time while going to school to pay for my education.Often having to work 3rd shift. But it did eventually lead to a good job after several years of working for a $1.85 an hour doing manual labor. Interest rates were at all times high....over 15% for a home mortage. I didn't always have the best grades, the nicest cars, none of the latest electronics....but a will to do whatever was needed to survive. I would have never dreamed of asking someone to forgive my loans. I am not any better than anyone else, but there are paths that you can take that will lead to success. I think they should deliver the daily paper to the OWS sites so the protesters can read the "help wanted" section that is in EVERY paper and simply get your foot in the door somewhere.
    • STEPHANIE  •  6 months ago
      We need someone who is willing to stand up to big college and create paths to success that do not require a college education!! For thousands of years apprenticeships worked...In this country they are dieing!! Decades ago you could enter the workforce with a high school diploma and advance as far as your own initiative would take you. Learn on the job and end up with money in your pocket rather then tens of thousands in debt!! WAKE UP FOOLS!! The baby boomers that have raised the bar for you were the main benaficiaries of the land of oppertunity that WAS AMERICA!!
    • Ivy Legere  •  6 months ago
      When did the "United States" stop being a plural term?
    • Alex1444  •  6 months ago
      It's always been tough starting out in life and earing your way, so what else is new? Why is this generation - the generation where everyone gets A's just for showing up in class, and all get trophies just for participating in sports - suddenly unable to deal with life, without government intervention on their behalf?
    • S  •  6 months ago
      yeah, it just sucks to be a young, college educated person living in the United States of America; bohoo and waaaaaaaaaa; what a bunch of spoiled, lazy, overeducated, brats: go get a job, shut the f___ up and get a life; its hard being a functioning member of society, get used to it!!!
    • WilhemenaCooker  •  6 months ago
      OWS: pick your nose and pick your parents' pocketbooks
    • 9 days to go  •  6 months ago
      POOR BABIES, Waking up from that dream world you were living in was real hard. No more mon and pop paying all the bills, No more parties all weekend. Did you really not thing that some day you were going to have to pay all that money back? Oh, you thought that liberal arts degree in Asian Pottery would make you waelthy. Think again.

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