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    Randall Lane: Wall St. Protestors Don’t Hate Success, They Hate Big Rewards for Failure

    Whether $250,000 really constitutes "wealthy" in America is subject to debate but it's clear a majority of Americans support raising taxes on the wealthy. A new Bloomberg-Washington Post poll shows 68% of Americans, and a majority of self-described Republicans, support raising taxes on Americans making $250,000 a year or more.

    On this point, at least, the majority is in synch with the Occupy Wall Street protesters; if the protesters agree on anything, it's that wealthy Americans should pay higher taxes.

    But that is different that being anti-capitalism or wanting to punish success, says Forbes editor Randall Lane.

    "A lot of the same people protesting are the same people burning a candle for Steve Jobs on Facebook," he says. "It's not about the money. There problem is the perception that Wall Street, and to a large degree it's correct, does not reward people who create jobs and make the world better."

    Lane, author of The Zeroes, believes the Occupy Wall Street protests are a manifestation of the anger that's built up in the past decade, when most Americans saw their net worth stagnate while Wall Street amassed untold wealth.

    The trend continues as Bank America recently announced plans to pay departing executives Joe Price and Sallie Krawcheck a collective $11 million in severance. The payouts are certainly legal and, as Lane notes, "relatively small" compared to some other packages paid to departing CEOs lately. (See: Another Corporate Outrage: 'Golden Parachutes' for Failed CEOs.)

    But the optics of this move are terrible given the state of the economy. Furthermore, Bank of America has announced plans to close hundreds of branches and lay off thousands of its employees, while separately taking fire for instituting debit fees. (See: Under Pressure: Big Banks Slammed by Obama, Durbin)

    "This is why they hate you," writes Josh Brown at The Reformed Broker blog. "This very type of thing, while just a single example, epitomizes the piggish mentality that has set you apart from everyone else. This is why they're marching against you and calling for boycotts and writing their politicians. And this is why your whole model and way of life is on its way to being dead. Forever."

    "Dead…forever" might be overstating things and Lane fundamentally believes Wall Street can be a force for good by providing capital to new businesses that create jobs and new industries.

    "I personally believe in capitalism….in theory it's a wonderful thing," he says. "But Wall Street is this little insulated place that doesn't always act capitalistically and for the greater good. There's not necessarily any angst at capitalism, but something about Wall Street that has not been reformed enough."

    See also:

    Taken to Task: Occupy Wall Streets Nattering Nabobs of Negativity

    Occupy Wall Street Gains Traction: "The Message is Definitely Getting Out

    Occupy Wall Street: What's It All About?

    Aaron Task is the host of The Daily Ticker. You can follow him on Twitter at @atask or email him at altask@yahoo.com

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    • Dwight  •  Shreveport, Louisiana  •  4 months ago
      I hate big rewards for failure.. Congress has failed, The president has failed, The CEO's of the major companies that have went bankrupt have failed.. What do they all have in common? None of them have went to Jail..Why? Because they are all in on it!! Jon Corzine is the poster child of what is wrong with politics and corporate america.. They are Clueless..
    • Togethor We Can  •  6 months ago
      The ax continues to fall on Wall Street.

      Citigroup is drawing up plans to eliminate about 3,000 jobs, or 1 percent of its global work force, and on Wednesday, BNP Paribas announced plans to cut about 1,400 jobs, or 7 percent of its staff.

      While Citigroup has not settled on a final number, the staff reductions could exceed 3,000, with roughly a third coming from its securities and banking unit, said one person with direct knowledge of the plans who spoke anonymously because the numbers were not final. Citigroup has already notified some employees who will lose their jobs in the coming months. The timing of the layoffs is also uncertain, and could take place throughout the next year.

      At BNP Paribas, almost 400 jobs will be eliminated in France, with the remaining layoffs coming at the bank's international operations.

      The moves reflect the broader austerity measures across Wall Street.

      Goldman Sachs has prepared to eliminate about 1,000 jobs, or roughly 3 percent of its work force. The bank also could cut up to $1.45 billion in costs, or 5 percent of its expenses, as DealBook previously reported.

      Bank of America, perhaps the most embattled American banking giant, has already shed 3,500 jobs in recent months, and that its only a starting point. The bank, which continues to labor under the weight of its troubled mortgage business, could yet decide on a broader round of job cuts resulting in 30,000 layoffs.

      New York is feeling the pain. Some 10,000 securities industry workers could lose their jobs through 2012, bringing total reductions to 32,000 since January 2008, according to a report by the New York state comptroller.
      • Togethor We Can 6 months ago
        But pay and bonsuses are going up for executives. Interesting?
    • eegeesee2  •  6 months ago
      @Finaceguru

      Recent numbers show the unemployment rate for college graduates at 4%.

      Is it correct to assume (given the first part of your post) that your are a part of this select group?

      If so, one might wonder what special qualities you possess that 96% of your peers do not that allow you to remain unemployed, angry and disenfranchised from your perch as one of the educated privileged in this, the richest country in the world.

      I too am a "finance guru", having graduated from a top business school, but I am guessing that's probably where the similarity between us ends. I have held a paying job continously since I was 7 years old. I worked all through high school and college at minimum wage and below. I worked retail, restaurants, bars, you name it. Never once did I stop and think "hey, I'm working hard, my country owes me a living, health benefits and a pension for my old age"....I just did the best I could. When I got out of school (in the middle of a horrific recession) I took the first job I could find and repeated the process.

      Nobody owes me a goddamn thing and nobody owes you a goddamn thing my friend. The sooner you get that through your over-educated head and stop feeling so sorry for yourself the sooner you will start the process of making it in this world on your own. A nice dividend will be that along the way you just might find your balls and your self-respect. Good luck.
    • 0101001  •  6 months ago
      Read the "Coming New Dark Ages: The Truth About the U.S. Economy" to see why the debts of the world's advanced economies can be reconciled only by default, regardless of fiscal policies.
    • tomtom  •  6 months ago
      Why dont the wallstreet bunch protest PROFESSIONAL SPORTS,TALK ABOUT GREED! Most of these folks cant even add,use proper English,or work fullytime,some are felons,have criminal records,beat their wives,have DUIs. They have no investment in the product they represent and yet they want a % of the profits.
      • MarkM 6 months ago
        Sorry Tom but you're off base with much of your comment. People in most professional sports are actually arrested LESS often than the rest of America. If you line up Congress against pro athletes you'd be astounded at how many more felons are serving our country than playing pro ball. It's not even close. Athletes want a percentage of the profits because they are the commodity.No one goes to a game to watch the owners, the coaches or the refs. these guys are specialized, the best of the best at what they do. Sports are completely unique and shouldn't be compared to more main stream professions, even the ones on Wall Street. Next time a big crowd shows up to watch you work let me know. Your second comment is more on base. The real problem are the lemmings in charge. Congress has overspent, stripped out regulations like the Glass-Steagall act that really played a big part in gettign us where we are now. They've compleetely take advantage of a system they have created for themselves. It's no longer a civic duty as it should be. what a shame that it's turned into working for the betterment of their constituents to just the betterment of themselves.
    • d  •  6 months ago
      More is wasted on injured and crappy NBA , MLB and NFL stars that dont perform and still collect a HUGE paycheck. Larger amout than corportate buy outs of Executive contracts. Lets Occupy them too.

      The media is a joke! They slam the tea party for wanting a smaller government and less debt, but the Hemp Hoody, Socialist crack babies, supported by Soros, Acorn and SCIU are treated with kid Gloves. You Reporters make me sick.
    • tomtom  •  6 months ago
      I said it before and I will say it again,these protesters should be sitting in front of their congressmen and senators homes and the white house. They just cant seem to understand this! They all cant be unable to understand this. If change is going to take place it has to be by legislation. Surely they dont think wall street Is going to send each and everyone of them a check and find them a job. Obama and congress are not paying attention to them,they are to busy trying to get re-elected. We really got change as was promised,CHANGE FOR THE WORST.
    • d  •  6 months ago
      Candace hippy girl--Really ,You want to friggin Barter? ...OK CHAKA, I trade you this rotten tobacco Leaf for your beaded man purse. Come ON! Plus you want to Boycott banks? You can keep your 401K in your moms tupperware bowls in her basement. Have fun Bartering for a HOUSE dude. People are just too Stoned!
      • USA 4 months ago
        Someone needs a vacation.
    • bart  •  6 months ago
      Socialism is working well in Greece, and countries run by their labor unions, like France, Italy and Spain seem to be doing well. And Portugal is doing well, and WHAT? You mean their not doing well? Never mind
    • John  •  7 months ago
      The greates danger to a democracy is an IGNORANT electorate. We are toast!!!!!
      • frankmargel.com 7 months ago
        Vote for frankmargel.com for president! You'll be just fine bro! Just fine! Thumbs up!
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      • A Yahoo! User 7 months ago
        What is worse, ignorance or apathy? Don't know - don't care. This pretty well sums up the attitude of the country until "Occupy Wall Street".
    • John  •  7 months ago
      ALEX1444 - where in this article did you see the 99% figure????? Only number I saw was 68% and the phrase "majority". And, in case you have just woke up after a more than 200 year sleep, it doesn't take 99% of the vote to represent the people. It really only takes a simple majority (i.e. more than 50%) of "electors". Your vote only determines which set of electors will be the representative electors for your state. You don't even have a choice of how that set of electors is determined. Article II of the US Constitution states, " Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress:". And, GET THIS, these electors are not sworn by law to vote the same way they are assigned. In other words, if the Republicans win the popular vote in a state, then the Republican slate of electors will cast their votes for President. With our two party system, they are always assumed to vote for their particular party nominee. However, they are NOT required by law to do so. So, it is possible that a Republican elector could cast a vote for the Democratic Presidential nominee. Also, they cast SEPARATE votes for President and Vice-President, which again, do not have to be along party lines. So, a single elector COULD vote for a Democratic President and a Republican Vice-President. However, his political career would probably be in doubt from that moment on.
      • frankmargel.com 7 months ago
        I saw a black cloud, then something with horns and a teleprompter, then I saw fire and ash. Some folks can't see this on the video but I did! LMFAO! Thumbs up!
        http://frankmargel.com/index.html
      • Sunny 7 months ago
        John, let's not get into semantics, and just be practical.
    • Bruce  •  7 months ago
      Excellent video! As I've posted before, capitalism is the production and sale of goods and services in the free market. Moving money from one pile to another in not the essence of capitalism. It's gambling. We can't have a functioning, growing economy that is primarily based on moving money from one pile to another. We have to produce, and Wall Street doesn't produce anything.
    • mockware  •  7 months ago
      The issue is that most corporate boards and officers in the large companies have become leeches that siphon off corporate profits bleeding the companies dry then leaving the dead husk behind as they move engorged on their feast to the next corporate victim. Stock holders - the owners of the company - are mostly powerless to stop it and take the only recoarse available which is to sell the stock. Steve Jobs was one of the exceptions you encounter who has taken the well being of the company as a priority over his own enrichment.
    • Ruff  •  7 months ago
      Alot of us have been financially devasted by the last few years with payouts for incompetence in the senior ranks of corporations excelerating while you and I just get a pink slip with a push out the door. There has been alot of discussion about the disparity which didn't exist in the US 20 years ago. Yet, congress isn't listening, corporations aren't listening. I continually hear corporations proclaim that they make the jobs, not us. Well, then it may make sense to doing targeted boycotts of key companies and their products. If we really don't make the jobs, then they really shouldn't care if they don't have any customers.
    • will  •  7 months ago
      Aaron Task needs to go back to English class. "THERE problem is the perception that Wall Street..." Hey Aaron, the word is THEIR. As for the article itself, it clearly explains the reason for the demonstrations. Me? I took my money out of Wall Street, used it to buy rental real estate and I'm looking to buy more units. In the late 70's/early 80's people got fed up with Wall Street's 2 steps forward/3 steps back: there was a huge rush to buy rental real estate in 82/83/84. I bought a property for $30,000 in January of 1980 with a very small down payment and sold it for $50,000 eighteen months later. History WILL repeat itself. That was 30 years ago and Obama is the new Jimmy Carter. Take your money away from these #$%$ We are at the mercy of huge crooked banks and companies that hire CEO's who couldn't handle a one can milk route. When they finally fire these morons, the multi-million dollar golden parachutes they give them #$%$ away what little there is of the shareholders' money left and you and I are left holding the bag. Take your money out of Wall Street NOW. The Dow is going nowhere for a long, long time, folks. Real estate is cheap and mortgage rates are at record lows!!! Only investors are buying real estate now. Buy now, hold your properties until the lemmings knock down your door, sell for a nice profit, the Dow will be down then. Buy the stock market at that point, watch it take off and give the finger to Wall Street, the crooked banks, and the CEO's as you cash the checks and play them like they deserve to be played............at your local home town Credit Union!!!
    • Betty Jo Complete  •  7 months ago
      There is no free war. There is no free financial bail-out. The question is "who will pay?" How about the war profiteers, and the reckless bankers who needed a bail-out?
    • caped_cluesader  •  7 months ago
      Too bad Blodget can't chime in -- he was rewarded handsomely with a job at Yahoo after being banned from the securities industry...
    • NormanM  •  7 months ago
      YOU ARE AIMING AT THE WRONG PEOPLE, THE ROTHCHILDS OF ENGLAND ARE THE RICHEST BANKERS ON EARTH..........THEY CONTROL EVERYTHING...............
    • charles  •  7 months ago
      and this is the thanks we get for bailing out wall street in the first place is it any wonder why people are protesting them down with wall street and all the greed that goes with it.
    • Paul  •  7 months ago
      So they don't like the execs of failing companies not sharing in the pain. Fair enough. But if the govt hadn't bailed them out the execs wouldn't still be prospering. While too big to fail concerns were valid in some instances, its still a govt failure for things like repealing Glass-Stegall, failure to regulate CDSs, etc. Seems like their anger is misplaced.

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