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    Relax About The Stock Market Already, Says Sonders — The Outlook Is Good

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    In the past few days, investors have finally begun to worry that the debt-ceiling fight in Washington will lead to a market crash.

    And some of them have begun rushing for the exits.

    Longer-term, investors worry that the stock market has come so far in the past two years--doubling off the 2009 lows--and that the economy is so rickety, that stocks can't possibly be a good investment here.

    The chief investment strategist at Charles Schwab, Liz Ann Sonders, says they can rest easy.

    Sonders thinks the debt-ceiling fight will get resolved and then blow over. She also doesn't think we're going to have another recession. She thinks the economy will continue to grow at a respectable rate of about 3% in the back half of 2011 and through next year. She notes that earnings projections for 2012 call for another year of double-digit gains in earnings growth and that stocks are not expensive based on those projected earnings.

    And what about today's profit margins, which are back at record highs? It has been growth in profit margins, not growth in revenues, that has driven earnings growth in the past two years. Can profit margins really go any higher? In the past, when corporate profit margins have hit levels like today's, they have eventually violently reverted to the mean, crushing earnings. Won't that happen again?

    Sonders says that the 2012 earnings projections actually assume that margins will shrink a bit and that much of the earnings growth will come from revenue growth. She also thinks stocks are cheap enough relative to the projected earnings that there's some downside protection.

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    109 comments

    • TLMF  •  10 months ago
      The gist of the story is; keep buying stocks or Charles Schwab will go out of business.
      • Hank 10 months ago
        Schwab will make money when stocks are sold as well as when they are purchased,...fee is charged either way.
      • STEVE 10 months ago
        Hank, if people don't buy nothing gets sold.
    • viennaroast789  •  9 months ago
      Oops I guess not.
    • Jennings W  •  10 months ago
      It's hard to be calm knowing those t*rd brains in Washington are liable to do anything just to stay in office. They should be washed out of the capitol with a hose.
    • christiangel  •  10 months ago
      Just how STUPID do you think we are?
      • fala 10 months ago
        apparently very. The most idiotic selection data and conlusions drawn imaginable.
        fala
      • mightyjoe 10 months ago
        The media and these so called "professionals" continue to insult the average investors intelligence.....and getting paid for it too.
      • TechDave 10 months ago
        A casual reading of posts here kind of supports that assumption.
    • MikeP  •  10 months ago
      It's a given that when these investment weenies say to buy it is to fill their own pockets. They know what is coming like everyone else at this point ... don't buy the lie. Thank you, internet, for educating those of us willing to learn the game. I feel bad for all the older generation, "Schwab-only" investors, who actually buy this nonsense they are fed.
    • Chris  •  10 months ago
      Of course she's going to say "everything's great, buy stocks". Wall street always has something to sell and you #$%$ keep buying!
      • Ronald Donald 10 months ago
        Thank you for not buying. If everyone was in the market, prices would be outlandishly high. Simple supply and demand. Sounds to me like you would prefer to be in safe-haven bank accounts. Here, you are currenlty earning, at most, 25 basis points on your interest. At your current tax rate of 25%, this would equate to about 18bp on your interest. Layer on 3% inflation and guess what - you are down 2.82% - a loss. Should have left your money in the market. Thank you again.
      • JJ 10 months ago
        I would take a 2% loss than a 40% loss to market crash any day of the week.
    • F16Hoser  •  10 months ago
      Don't take this wrong Liz, but you're an idiot. i'll just keep buying Gold/Silver Bullion. The markets are rigged and you know it....
      • STEVE 10 months ago
        That would include the silver and gold markets.
      • Dave 10 months ago
        Definitely on the mark. I sold some in April to redirect silver to gold and my value keeps going up. If you think about the last 30 years, gold has quadrupled in price and silver has gone up five times its value over that time frame. If a person is still skeptical ... they have not a clue.
      • david 9 months ago
        thats exactly what they want you to do
    • Char  •  10 months ago
      Figures lie and liars figure.
      • ZIP 10 months ago
        Cute but stupid
      • Zeon 10 months ago
        He's just repeating what he's heard, though it is stupid.
      • BLUTO 9 months ago
        I thought it was pretty clever.
    • Were all Americans... one ...  •  10 months ago
      There’s a total disconnect between Liz, Wall Street, Big banks, government and “reality.” Government and business have taxed and hiked prices over and over… again and again as middleclass America continues to lose jobs, raises, health insurance and have negative income and/or savings growth.

      The true focus of the debit crisis... is the Republicans want to cut SS and medicare. Starve the elderly and steal our childrens future benefits... to create more tax breaks for business and Elites. If Obama signs off on this he will be toast... the Democrats will look for a new President in 2012.... Obama will be part of the "dirty" dust bin of history..

      Question is.... how long can Elites and Congress continue squeezing middleclass before the economy “stops?”

      There is no safe port in this storm.
    • John  •  10 months ago
      keep it to yourself it's a lie we do not believe you !
    • J  •  10 months ago
      Hmmm...an article with economists saying the debt ceiling debacle has already damaged the ecomony and risks a double dip reecission.

      Hmmm...an article with Liz Ann Sonders from Schwab basically saying "Don't worry, Stay invested. No matter what. The economy is just fine and there will be no double dip".

      Hmmm...who loses if people get worried and do the prudent thing by selling stocks and sheltering in cash? why that would be Liz and Schwab. Duh...OF COURSE, the broker is going to say stay invested. Always!!
    • Ken  •  10 months ago
      Ms.Sonders is another permabull cheerleader, cheering for her Wall Street benefactor dujour. Check the internet for her prognostications in 2000, 2007,etc. It all begins to sound the same. Trust only you own analysis....everything else should be assumed to be an outright lie.
    • Johnny Randal  •  10 months ago
      The outlook is we are sunken because of $ 14.5 trillion dollar debts and do not how to repay it back..............Bankcrupt.......
    • Magic Dog  •  10 months ago
      The market seems to be just as stupid as the politicians and bond traders.
    • Vic  •  10 months ago
      Sonders — The Outlook Is Good
      'The Global Recovery Is Over': Siemens CEO
      Whom should I believe?
    • The Baron  •  10 months ago
      What a bunch of double talk !! Macro & Micro !! She used every Wall Street buzz word invented!! "Those who stay in for the long run are looking at good returns"!!?? Yeah right, that is the sales pitch they have been giving for decades already and most every one has lost their money in the market, that was not an inside trader!!
      Lamb to Slaughter!! Relax about that!!
    • plainfacts  •  9 months ago
      ALWAYS BUY WHEN EVERYONE IS SELLING
    • John  •  9 months ago
      Trolls are so tiresome. Her analysis is reasoned. There are many good companies that are making money, both in the U.S. and overseas, and on balance, most company balance sheets look pretty good -- and far, far better than the U.S. She's also right about valuations.
    • Jack  •  10 months ago
      really Henry, not much of a challenge to the guest!
    • Ono  •  10 months ago
      It is always nice to hear from Liz Ann Sonders. I have been listening to her since the early days on Wall Street Week. Like Louis Rukeyser was, she is a voice of calm in the madness of it all. I'm glad she is with Schwab.

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