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    It’s Time to Roll Back Big Government: Rep. Ron Paul Says ‘No’ to Debt Ceiling Increase

    Is Washington throwing in the towel on tying spending cuts to a debt-reduction ceiling? Given the tentative embrace in the Senate of Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's convoluted plan to let President Obama increase the debt ceiling without formal approval of the Congress, that seems to be the case.

    And the establishment is slowly coming to grips with the notion that such a plan may be the only hope of avoiding default and a downgrade in August. For as we've noted, the long-running game of "Deal or No Deal" continues to tilt in the direction of "No Deal." Rep. Ron Paul, the presidential candidate who was our guest on The Daily Ticker, tells me he isn't planning to vote for any increase in the debt ceiling because he didn't support many of the spending programs that caused the debt in the first place — from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Many Republicans, even those who voted enthusiastically for every Bush budget, for the expansion of the Medicare prescription drug benefit, and for the massive increase of defense spending we've had in recent years, feel the same way. The dynamic in the House of Representatives and Senate remains is what it has been for the last couple of years: anything that is desired or even tolerable to President Obama is likely to be opposed by virtually every elected Republican.

    McConnell's plan would hang responsibility for the debt, the spending, and the prospect of tax increases on President Obama and the Democrats.

    But you have to wonder if McConnell, who is a shrewd political operator, may be outsmarting himself. Consider: Obama already owns the economy and the higher debt levels. Were he to agree to $1 trillion or $2 trillion in cuts, the Republicans would still run hard against his fiscal record next year.

    What's more, Obama's re-election will depend in large measure on the economy. Incumbency brings huge advantages, in fundraising, name recognition and the ability to dominate the national conversation. While his approval rating is under 50 percent, he remains personally popular. None of the Republican candidates for president as yet is lighting up the campaign trail. The greatest Republican hope for 2012 lies in an undperforming economy. And, while many in the GOP refuse to believe it, the reality is that a large package of spending cuts and tax increases would depress economic activity next year. Contractionary fiscal policy is contractionary. Increasing the debt ceiling without spending cuts may actually strengthen President Obama's reelection prospects.

    There's a second potential problem with the GOP's all-cuts-or-nothing stance. Over the past two decades, Republican anti-tax orthodoxy has hardened. President George H.W. Bush's agreement to raise taxes in the early 1990s helped inspire a damaging primary challenge, and led to his defeat. For many Republicans, the key division between the two parties lies in their attitude toward taxes, especially on the rich. But the reality is that the public seems to care a little bit less than elected GOP officials about high taxes, especially when taxes are on the highest earners, and especially when the choice is between cutting middle-class entitlements or raising taxes on the wealthy. Poll after poll shows that raising taxes on the wealthy is in fact a highly popular move and that cutting entitlement spending is highly unpopular.

    Consider. In each of the last five elections, taxes (and especially higher taxes on the wealthy) have loomed large in the campaign season. But in four of the last five elections, the Democratic candidate won more votes than the Republican. (President George W. Bush managed to win in 2000 while getting fewer votes). And in each of these campaigns, to varying degrees, Republicans screamed loudly that voting for a Democrat would mean higher taxes, especially on the rich. In 1992, in fact, it did. Bill Clinton raised taxes on the wealthy as part of his budget-cutting 1993 budget. Three years later, he crushed challenger Bob Dole in a landslide. In 2008, President Obama campaigned in part on letting the Bush tax cuts on high earners expire. (Its' a campaign pledge he has yet to keep). And he beat his Republican opponent handily. One might conclude from this that the charge that Democrats are for higher taxes on the rich doesn't resonate broadly.

    Now consider how things set up if Congress goes the McConnell route. The country will face large deficits in 2012, 2013 and beyond. The Bush-era tax cuts extended earlier this year are slated to expire at the end of 2012. If Congress and the White House can't agree on a compromise, they'll all expire. So in the absence of a big deficit deal, the question about the debt next year will be this: should we reduce the debt exclusively through unpopular spending cuts (the GOP opposition), or through a combination of unpopular spending cuts and popular higher taxes on the rich and companies (the Democratic position)? Further, lets assume the GOP nominee is multi-millionaire Mitt Romney. And lets further assume that he endorses huge benefit cuts while charging that President Obama, if re-elected, will raise taxes on the rich. That may win Romney some votes on Wall Street. But the polls, and history, suggests that that alone won't do the trick.

    And so the mystery in Washington isn't the inability thus far to get a deal. The makeup of the House GOP caucus, which makes Rep. Paul increasingly sound like a moderate, the presence of a large "Hell, No" caucus, and the fact that many actors have plenty to gain from *not* striking a deal, helps explain that. The mystery is why Republicans think that not striking a deal, and simply letting the debt ceiling rise without any major cuts, will help their candidates (especially their Presidential candidate) in 2012.

    Daniel Gross is economics editor at Yahoo! Finance

    email him at grossdaniel11@yahoo.com; follow him on Twitter @grossdm

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    362 comments

    • Justin Tyme  •  10 months ago
      Ron Paul 2012
    • scuba  •  10 months ago
      America, please, oh, please please elect this man as our President. He knows what he's talking about. We ARE already in default.. How about this for a scare tactic: The USA's power and wealth will be destroyed unless Ron Paul is elected President. I really don't see any other way out.
      • JoseY 10 months ago
        You can bring ron paul to the middle east because he is 1000 yrs backward.
        he can run for president in saudi arabiad or lybia in africa.
      • Jay 10 months ago
        Time to change your diaper Josie Wosie and get to bed. Your mommy is calling you.
    • adam c  •  10 months ago
      Cadillac Ron baby. Spitting truth for 75 years and still running! We need Ron. Make sure he has your vote. We need to start back on the path to selling the world what we make and build a pile of cash and get into the green. Look at China. They manufacture and sell and save and buy assets. We have gone completely the other way. It's time to turn this @#$% around! RP 2012.
    • Jay  •  10 months ago
      Obummer and the DemoKKKrats are about to plunge this country into the Greatest Depression ever seen!!!!!!
    • Gerry  •  10 months ago
      America's not smart enough for RP.
      • Lumberjack 10 months ago
        No, the level of intelligence is just about on a par: 82.
    • Curly the cat  •  10 months ago
      If you borrow money to pay your current bills you are in default and denial if you don't believe it. We need to balence the budget and pay down the debt now. Not borrow more money to pay current debt bills. If we can't balence the budget now it will not get balenced when the debt is even higher. We will just be even worse off. God help us.
    • R.T.  •  10 months ago
      If it was a Republican President, all these millionaire envy Republicans would be telling
      us we need to raise the debt ceiling right now for the good of Wall Street and society.
    • Lee  •  10 months ago
      I'm with you Ron, the rise in interest rates will be a huge benefit to Social Security which is 6 of the 14 trillion the government owes. Should the "end of the world" chicken littles out there be right, then so be it. This economy needs an enema in the worst possible way.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  10 months ago
      Why do Neocons refuse to cut military spending, even though it is the biggest and most obvious cause of the waste?
    • jeez  •  10 months ago
      Why call it a ceiling if we can raise it at our convenience? It isn't much of a ceiling if you can get rid of it on a whim.

      Just how much more are we going to have to spend before people realize that this is unsustainable? That's a big buzz word this year, but I guess unsustainable only counts when we're trying to eco-law everyone into mud huts.
    • brenda  •  10 months ago
      Ya' know, ... IF no one has the guts to eventually make a long term decision, the ability to do so will eventually be lost.

      I say NO. Let the country, banks, government, and stock market do the do, and let the complete foul up be a lesson in learning how to work PROPERLY with money, just like the average Joe does after doing a bankruptsy.

      :) Afterall, this disasterous situation was created by the alleged "Best of the Best". Digging out from stupid should NOT be such an issue.
      • Kerry 10 months ago
        The politicians do not want to make these difficult decisions out of concern for the upcoming election. We do not have enough politicians with enough conviction to put country ahead of self
    • JoseY  •  10 months ago
      ron paul, if you are not suffering amnesia, or not being alzhimeir why can you not remember the tragedy you brought to the american people during the 2001 to 2008 you were in power.
      • Jay 10 months ago
        The only one with amnesia is you Jose as obviously you did not do your homework. Dr. Ron Paul is probably the only member of Congress that has consistently voted AGAINST every spending bill that came through the House. If you can find a spending bill he voted in favor of between 2001 -2008 then lets see it. Site the source. Go for it idiot!
    • Cup of tea  •  10 months ago
      Increasing the debt ceiling without spending cuts may actually strengthen President Obama's reelection prospects?

      This only means most of Obama's supporters are either idiots or the lazy living on other's money.

      Look what we got from Obama? For every working Americans, we got $40000 debt. And will be $50000 at the time Obama leave white house -- if we are luck he got only one term.
      • James 10 months ago
        You still need MORE REVENUE to pay down the debt. Business has proved over and over that they can not be trusted to provide any JOBS. We have had 10 years of the BUSH tax cuts and still no meaningful JOB creation.
    • James  •  10 months ago
      Would love to see the people that represent the TEA PARTY put 60,000 plus people out of work in Virginia, another 10,000 or so in South Carolina. Think it would be wonderful for those states. Hope that the people of those states would hold the Tea Party members as well as Grover Nordquist accountable for what happened to the state.
    • Howard  •  10 months ago
      Lots of people hate what they call "Big Government." But let me ask you���
      ��� Can you name any time when Big Business acted as the protector of the people and their constitution in any way?
      ��� Do you ever recall Big Business assembling the nation's forces to fight a war? (Making and selling military equipment at a profit doesn't count, for that's its BASIC FUNCTION.)
      ��� Does Big Business patrol the coastline, or spy upon dedicated enemies of the state?
      ��� Is Big Business proficient at quelling a riot in a city, or fighting organized crime?
      ��� Does Big Business have an admiral record when it comes to responding to a national disaster?
      ��� Has Big Business ever created a lot of public libraries in your town, where you can check out books for free for two or three weeks?
      ��� Ever recall Big Business building a school system that children could attend free of charge?
      ��� Did Big Business construct the roads in your neighborhood and beyond? Or that bridge which crosses the river?
      ��� If your house catches fire, will a member of the Big Business Club come rushing there to extinguish the blaze?
      ��� Let's suppose some member of your family falls over with a serious illness, or becomes involved in a tragic accident, will any member of Big Business come speeding there, with sirens blaring, and take that person to the hospital?
      ��� Was Big Business the one that decided your town needed a bus or subway service?
      ��� On its own, did Big Business decide that all the houses on your street needed a sewer system?
      ��� Is it Big Business that tries to make sure your water is clean enough to drink and to bathe in?
      ��� When there's an epidemic, which sometimes happens, is Big Business the one that tries to protect the general population by inoculating them against the disease?
      ��� Will Big Business try to help you if you become unemployed?
      ��� Has Big Business ever put a letter in your mailbox?
      ��� How many public parks can you name that are financially supported by Big Business, where you and your family can have a picnic and get away from it all?
      ��� Does Big Business print the money that you carry around, and does it insure it when you put it in a bank?
      ��� If you want to pray to a different God than your neighbor, will Big Business provide you with that opportunity?
      ��� If you become old and alone, will Big Business attend to some of your most basic needs?
      ��� If Big Business cannot make a profit by providing you with some assistance, will it help you nevertheless?
      I only bring these questions to your attention for this reason: the next time you hear someone complain about the influence of Big Government in our lives, you might remember to throw one or two of them his way.
    • Tom  •  10 months ago
      The American people are the problem. But now we have the internet, we know we can't trust the media, we can vote for a guy that will give us a surplus. Ideally, our personal finances have a small surplus, and that is the way the government should operate. Don't accept these "party guys" any longer. Be in the BLACK, not the RED. Ron Paul, and he is a Texan!!!
    • George  •  10 months ago
      Where was Ron Paul when Bush started the two off budget wars?
    • readit  •  10 months ago
      Ron Paul has had 22 years of Republican Adminitrations, and 16 (including this one) years of Democratic Administrations to get some of what he professes he wanted done. What did he do? We still went to war, we still overspent, we made the Federal Reserve stronger, and we gave most of the power to corporations. So Ron a good job!
    • readit  •  10 months ago
      The mystery is what do the Republicans call spending? And, what do they consider big government? I see all the abortion bills, tax cut bills, No Child Left Behind bill, the wars, the medicare drug bill. Which of these is spending, and which is the intrusion of big government. I don't think the Republicans know, the are against Big Government, and Taxes and the don realize that cutting the COLA is a big government tax, and breaks a compact with the American people. But maybe they really don't care, they are just waiting for their corporate payday. Maybe we should introduce a bill that gives them a pension that is reduced each time there is a crisis in governing.
    • David  •  10 months ago
      Republicans are as Anti-American as they come. No force in America has been as destructive
      as the Republican Party.

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