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    The Stock Market: Now More Volatile Than Ever!

    If the market seems more volatile than ever that's because, based on many metrics, it is!

    Today's Wall Street Journal has the stats:

    • The Dow's average daily move of 1.7% since August began is twice the decade's average.
    • Seven moves of more than 3% since August began.
    • Moves of more than 1% on 33 of past 49 trading days.

    Ed Dempsey CIO of Pension Partners, a manager of pension funds based in New York City, says he's never seen anything like this in his three decades on Wall Street. "I have not seen (volatility like this) and I started in the crash of '87," he says.

    In the accompanying interview with Aaron Task, Dempsey says the wild swings are a result of advances in technology. "You have so much information that is so unfiltered, but the key is that it's so actionable," he observes. "Now anywhere in the world where you are you can take out your smartphone and you can act on the news."

    The WSJ says all this volatility is detrimental to the markets. After all, the Dow is down 13% since its April high (not counting today's rally, which itself is a sign of volatility). Plus, the swings scare off individual investors, leaving only the big players on the field. The good news, according to Dempsey is that the worst is behind us, at least for now. He's predicting a major stock rally to begin very soon, if it hasn't already. (See: After Predicting the "Summer Swoon," Ed Dempsey Now Sees a "Fall Melt-Up)

    Some blame the added volatility, not only in recent months but the last few years, on the growth of high frequency trading, which according to some, accounts for 50% of U.S. trading volume each day. Regulators in the U.S. and Europe are looking into ways to curb high-frequency trading and/or learn more about their activities. Dempsey thinks that's a good idea. "Like most things with the markets, people are ahead of the rules and regulations. Rules and regulations absolutely need to catch up."

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    53 comments

    • george  •  7 months ago
      computer trading in large volumes happening in micro seconds , gee who would be able to do that. could it be wall street running the casinos. its not your average person or retired people who invest. Only the little guy invest and believes in the system.
    • CornFed  •  7 months ago
      In physics, when volatility suddenly increases it means instability. Unstable systems crash.
      • Nutti 7 months ago
        All systems seek equilibrium. After crash comes calm.
      • Melvin 7 months ago
        Is that Isaac Newton's fourth law of motion?
    • starz-n-barz  •  7 months ago
      "The Stock Market: Now More Volatile Than Ever!"

      -Duhhhh???
      • Nutti 7 months ago
        How come he got through 2009 with less volatility than today? I don't get it.
    • JOHN  •  7 months ago
      The most successful investor was Noah. He floated stock, while everything around him went into liquidation.
    • Omega  •  7 months ago
      he really doesn't think volatility is driven by individual investors on "smart phones", does he?
      • Paul Morphy 7 months ago
        High frequency trading computer algorithm programmers have smart phones too, you know. If he wants to think of them as individual investors, who am I to argue against it? LOL.
      • Christopher 7 months ago
        He was just comparing it to the speed that news is delivered and the speed that traders can act on the news. These markets are incredibly news driven + fast paced technology + Trading bots= Volatility much higher than ever before
      • Donb 7 months ago
        He's refering to institutional HFC, up to or more than 50% trading volume each day. That's $billions to cover major indexes world wide. It's out right stock manipulation.
    • jeff  •  7 months ago
      Only those in the know(inside powerful cliques), those in the dough, and those with the super computers(again rich folk) can play this game, once again trumping the little and middle guy and gal. There are those that keep telling us in cliched tones, 'if you don't like it, go join the big boys and get rich.' But to play their game the 99% don't have the ability to get the tools needed so then you DO have a rigged system and this disparity annot and must not be allowed to continue.
      • Donb 7 months ago
        100% right, I just hope it's not long before law makes them pull the plug on their souped up money machines.
    • Mister Z  •  7 months ago
      Man Vs. Machines......
      • Wolfgangjr 7 months ago
        Machines eventually need a wrench attached to a mans hand, for adjustments.
    • Mario Santos  •  7 months ago
      Volatile? Where? Before, volatile meant going down. Now the market is being pumped, you say it's more volatile than ever. Where do we stand? This rally has no legs to walk. Is a pumping rally based on a bunch of just nothing.
    • allan  •  7 months ago
      be carefull. only the rich is getting richer. the rich has the money to play with by making the market look good. suck in the suckers,then the rich can sell and reap the rewards. The person with the money can always win in a game of MONOPOLY........
    • Ellen  •  7 months ago
      Lets see 3x Long Short ETF's HFT, No Up Tick Rule, CNBC, Hedge Funds, Flash Trading, Program Trading, Almost free Trading! No SEC to be found LOL...

      Dark Pools, Margin, Naked Shorts, Options LOL.... Too Funny!
    • R.Way  •  7 months ago
      "the swings scare off individual investors, leaving only the big players on the field." The Big Fish will only be able to gobble on one another? Oh, my! What is Wall Street coming to, now that all the little fish ARE GONE?
    • Ex Exec  •  7 months ago
      The people to know this information is like our "Ex-Advisor". He just did not liisten to our beat of the drum, or phone calls. It cost us a mint! Then his answer, was: "That's the stock Market, you have to look at the averages". Notice, I said Ex!
    • Daemonicus  •  7 months ago
      "He's predicting a major stock rally to begin very soon"

      I am still predicting a recession and a declining Market.
    • Omega  •  7 months ago
      so....it's OK to trade into a 'headfake' and take a scalp....just don't get caught with your pants down.
    • LibelLiberal  •  7 months ago
      Look at the history of the Nikkei, and tell me when the volatility started...
    • sid  •  7 months ago
      He's been doing this since 1987 and he still has to sell stocks to clients? I don't think I want his advice.
    • Excelsior  •  7 months ago
      This is whitewash. The volatility is due to algorithmic trading. These trading jerks at the big banks will pull the bid in milliseconds is you ever make the mistake of placing a market order.
    • Jerzy  •  7 months ago
      Up goes the market a wall of worry.
      Our Peerless Buys are right on track.
    • Sucker  •  7 months ago
      The markey is still over rated.
    • ALVIN  •  7 months ago
      One only needs to look at the Dow divisor (0.132) to see why there are wide swings in the Dow. A one dollar move in a Dow stock translates to a 7 dollar move on the Dow. One cannot discuss market volatility without discussing the Dow Divisor.

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