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    U.S. and Europe at Risk of “Self-Induced Stagnation,” says Economist Editor

    Global markets let out a huge sigh of relief last week that resulted in a big buying spree after European leaders agreed on a framework to work through their sovereign debt crisis.

    The problem, even if the plan is to work, which the markets are starting to doubt, is that the deal doesn't really help the economic fundamentals. In fact, austerity has taken hold (justifiably so) across the continent to ensure debt burdens don't get even more out of control. That kind of fiscal contraction can be good for budgets but bad for growth.

    In the accompanying video, Aaron Task discusses the global economic outlook with Zanny Minton-Beddoes, economics editor at The Economist.

    "I'm less worried marginally than I was about a month ago, but I'm a lot more worried than I was 6-months ago," says Minton-Beddoes. Don't mistake that for a bullish call. Minton-Beddoes is worried about growth prospects in Europe and the U.S.. Things, she says, "still looking pretty grim on both sides of the Atlantic."

    Europe still looks "grim" because despite the debt agreement the growth prospects look weak suggesting some countries are probably already in recession.

    In the U.S., Minton-Beddoes says, the greatest economic risk is political. She fears politicians will continue to denounce government spending which will result in fiscal contraction at a time when the economy remains weak and unemployment still high. She refers to this risk as: "self-induced stagnation"

    The emerging markets, namely China looks "rosier. " "All indications seem to be the Chinese are in fact engineering exactly what they want which is a soft landing with slower growth but not a sudden slump," she says. That could be the global economy's saving grace, since she calls China the most important economy in the world right now.

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    87 comments

    • Charles  •  6 months ago
      Re-instate Glass-Steagal permanently.
    • peppy  •  6 months ago
      I wonder what is worse: An economy with slow growth or a country that goes bankrupt?
      • Steven 6 months ago
        Um... why not have both? Best of both worlds right?
    • bond  •  6 months ago
      america has shot its wad,now china is the coming SUPER POWER of tomorrow.
      • bruce h 6 months ago
        then why do the chinese wealthy all want to immigrate to the usa?..
    • Joe Blow  •  6 months ago
      the problem with us here in europe is that the EU never put the mechanisms in place to deal with a situation like this when they formed the euro. They are in shock after ten years of constant denial. They censored any criticisms of the EU and its institutions by insiders who were banished whenever they flaged the issues. I have no time for the Greeks who have lied consistently but the french and the germans are equally to blame for burying their heads in the sand and hoping the problems would go away. The euro in its current form is finished. the markets are telling us this and soon the electorates of france and germany will do the same.
    • Ned  •  6 months ago
      Lets hear it USA, We're number one, we're number one. Why am I hearing crickets?
      • bruce h 6 months ago
        because congress is inept and cant get out of our way and make a intelligent decision..supercommitee ..hahahahaha ..more like stupidcommitee..vote them all out..we have the power people..lets use it..they think there entitled..lets show them the hard truth....power to the people..
    • raymond  •  6 months ago
      It's not bad out there, it's WORSE than what you think
    • YFU Number One  •  6 months ago
      This Greece thing is pretty amazing. They appear to have a laid-back philosophy toward life like I’ve never seen. They seem to be saying they’re just not into busting their nuts like the Germans or anyone like that, and they couldn’t care less what those countries think of them. What’s more, they don’t care who PAYS for them to live life the way they think it should be lived. Fascinating.
    • Money  •  6 months ago
      blah blah blah... One thing is for sure America has higher prices and reduced wages (stagflation) and China's GDP is continuously shrinking. And America's GDP number was a preliminary number... It would suck if its revised down.
    • CLIVE  •  6 months ago
      funny the difference one day makes
    • Godfrey  •  6 months ago
      Screw Europe. Our government needs to take care its national crisis first.
      • R.Way 6 months ago
        Read between the lines: "politicians will continue to denounce government spending which will result in fiscal contraction at a time when the economy remains weak and unemployment still high..." describes US exactly, not Europe or China!
    • Agostinho Cardoso  •  6 months ago
      It's simple, have all Gov. bureaucrates and politicians work for minimum wage.Stop the borrowing and the private sector will compete with China.
    • Kibble  •  6 months ago
      The winners in this environment are the retired bankers that have put all their money in bonds and cash.
    • buffettpuppett  •  6 months ago
      man up whimps.
    • Michael  •  6 months ago
      Exports have accounted for 47 percent of growth since the Great Recession ended in mid-2009. That's more than twice their share after the previous three recessions. Can't say screw Europe ...but you could have shorted DB and the banks on this last pump after running them up and got rich ;o)
    • J  •  6 months ago
      @AKQJ,

      Listen, AKQJ, I was around when Reagan was president, too. He deregulated S&Ls and interstate banking. The former caused an immediate debacle to the tune of something like $500B. The latter allowed the banks to become too big to fail. Later in the 1990s, Gramm, Bliley, and Leach repealed the Glass-Steagall act put in place after the Great Depression to prevent commercial banks (regular banks to you and me) from gambling away the money. After that, they did start to gamble away money on hedge funds, derivatives, etc., that could allow the CEOs to make the bottom lines to look a LOT better by hiding the risk and collect huge bonuses. The real wealth has been sucked away by the corporate plutocrats who didn't create any wealth commensurate with the bonuses. They want you to keep looking at "entitlement" programs for the poor while the super rich will take their "entitlement" right from the country. What the poor can squeeze from you is pennies in comparison with what the super rich take right from your wallet.

      Reagan was on the side of the super rich.

      It is unmistakable that the Hoover Administration's insistence to balance the budget during the Great Depression make it much worse. People, you need to wake up. The Tea Party will lead you right down the path of yet another Great Depression. The risk of a self-induced stagnation or depression is very real.
      • Juan Tutri 6 months ago
        J, one of the problems with so many of the posters here is that while we can rely on memory they know only what they have read and many times the written history does not follow fact. As for your comment about Hoover, while I am not old enough to remember those days the stories of the experiences of my parents and grandparents during that time period do back up your claims. Remember the lines from 1984. He who controls the present controls the past. He who controls the past controls the future. You can always change history to your benefit if there are not longer any witnesses to the times to refute you.
      • Quincy Magoo 6 months ago
        Exactly, J. Makes you wonder why we support Wall Street. Since 1979, we've spent over a trillion dollars bailing out Wall Street firms from the various financial crises they get themselves into. And it appears we haven't learned our lesson. Seems to me that each new financial crisis is worse than the last. We've put all our economic eggs in the financial markets, to the point that some 46% of all corporate profits in the US now come from the financial sector. An unsustainable way to run a country. A few get rich, the rest of us pay taxes to bail out their mistakes.
    • Flush Washington  •  6 months ago
      All propaganda to convince us QE3 is a good thing!!
    • A Yahoo! User  •  6 months ago
      A tax cut had never ever created even one job!!! But spending on public infrastructure that is clearly long overdo will create millions of jobs and get the economy going again....
    • Charles  •  6 months ago
      You know, look at nature, if our own bodies operated like a capitalist system, we'd be a giant brain and a giant sex organ with a failing liver, lung and heart and barely a skeleton and muscle. Our bodies treat each cell like an important part of the whole, that's how we need to model our societies, you want to call it socialism? I call it proper distribution of resources to ensure our mutual happiness and success, there'd be no need for taking or giving things away, it'd all be there to ensure that person has what they need to do the job assigned them. However, we should have a choice in this. Communism is a problem because it took people and told them what job they would do their whole lives and not have any incentive to "improve" or increase prosperity. We all must prosper for anything to matter. Think!
    • Geraldine  •  6 months ago
      Class warfare pushed by a lackluster leader{?} We will always have a top 10% After Obama finishes re distributing all the wealth nobody will be paying any taxes. Everybody poor So much for a great society.
    • Klaus  •  6 months ago
      Warren Buffett, in a recent interview with CNBC, offers one of the best quotes about the debt ceiling:"I could end the deficit in 5 minutes," he told CNBC. "You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election".

      The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971 - before computers, e-mail, cell phones, etc. Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took one (1) year or less to become the law of the land - all because of public pressure.

      Warren Buffet is asking each addressee to forward this E-mail to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise.
      In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.

      _*Congressional Reform Act of 2011*_

      1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman/woman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they're out of office.

      2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the
      Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the
      American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.

      3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

      4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

      5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

      6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

      7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void effective 1/1/12. The American people did not make this
      contract with Congressmen/women. Congressmen/women made all these contracts for themselves.
      Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.

      If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S.) to receive the message. Don't you think it's time?

      THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!

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