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    U.S. Recession Averted, But Curb Your Enthusiasm: Daniel Gross

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    The popular wisdom today is that the U.S. economy is on track for a recovery and that a double-dip recession has been averted.

    Among the optimists is the head of one of the world's biggest financial firms, JPMorgan Chase (JPM) CEO Jamie Dimon, who says a better tomorrow is on the way. "The U.S. economy is experiencing a mild recovery," Dimon told CNBC earlier this week. "We think housing is at or near a bottom."

    Recent data support the notion that the economy is indeed improving. The new year started off with four months of economic momentum behind it, and the recent December data only further support the bullish case:

    Manufacturing: The U.S. ISM manufacturing index rose more than expected to 53.9 in December from 52.7 in November to its best level since June. This week, Jefferies chief equity strategist Sean Darby predicted the decline in American manufacturing is over. (See: Made in America: The Comeback)

    Jobs: Weekly first-time unemployment claims fell below 400,000, while the ADP report showed the private sector added 325,000 jobs in December, nearly double the expected rate. Additionally, the national unemployment rate fell to 8.5%, with 200,000 nonfarm jobs added last month. The U.S. economy has not seen that many workers added in a month since March 2009.

    Auto sales: Automakers sold more than 1 million vehicles last month, which is 8.7% more than the total sales in December of 2010. And the Big Three all posted double-digit sales for the entirety of 2011, which is inherently good for both jobs and manufacturing. (See: Author Clark: Chrysler's Made-in-Italy Comeback)

    The consumer: In November, consumer credit outstanding grew to the highest level since September 2009. The optimistic take on these figures says consumer confidence is on the rise as Americans are willing to increase spending again. Holiday retail sales were also strong.

    "The underlying signs of positive trends are unmistakable and undeniable," says Yahoo! Finance economics editor Daniel Gross, who also believes the Economic Cycle Research Institute, which warned in recent months that the U.S. was likely headed for another recession, may be wrong for the first time ever. But, he adds, "I think this is a good time to sort of curb your enthusiasm a bit."

    Coming from Gross, who's known for spotting the positives in the economy even in gloomy times, the "curb your enthusiasm" advice is a bit of a surprise. However, as the name of his Yahoo! column the "Contrary Indicator" suggests, he's not opposed to going against the grain.

    For instance, in April 2010 he went contrary to popular opinion, declaring America was turning around from its post-Lehman lows. Since then, there have been some bumps along the way and even renewed calls for recession by the ECRI's's Lakshman Achuthan right here on The Daily Ticker. But all the while Gross has remained steadfast in his glass half-full sentiment -- and he's generally been right in his assessments. (See: As Gloom Rises, U.S. Economic Data Turn Positive)

    "You always have to be careful when a consensus forms around something, especially after it seems these events have already happened," Gross tells The Daily Ticker's Henry Blodget in the accompanying clip. "I'm still optimistic on a relative basis, but maybe curb some of this enthusiasm that all these Johnny-come-latelies have been expressing."

    Do you agree with Dan? Tell us what you think in the comments section below or on our Facebook page.

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    • Maggie  •  4 months ago
      Sometimes the things Dan Gross says seriously makes me cringe. It's like "Really? Are you THAT ... idealistic?" I think that in a couple of months once the "holiday season" workers have finished up their stint in the part time / min wage jobs that were offered, you'll see a big back peddle. Another thing is that he's talking about a growth in spending. That's only because the prices of things that people HAVE to have have gone up. (Like groceries, and electricity) Nevermind the things that people "want" to have. (Cellphones and Computers.) Also, 200,000 jobs, in the great big scheme of things, is not THAT many jobs. Sure, it's great for the people who finally got those jobs, but are those people making the same amount of money they did pre-rescession? Are they getting as many work hours as they did pre-recession? How about benefits (medical, dental, vision, vacation)? Also, as other people have pointed out: there's really only a few ways to fix this problem: raise taxes (not likely, the government officials DO want to get re-elected after all), cut spending (why should they? the government will do what it WANTS to do - not what is best for the country), default (that's not gonna happen because this is the USA and the USA can NEVER admit that it does anything wrong, because well....it's the USA! And defaulting on loans would mean that "We screwed up, sorry, we can't pay this bill so can you forgive us and we'll make it up to you down the road?")
    • T-Rock  •  Cincinnati, Ohio  •  4 months ago
      I am to believe that with the EU expected to enter recession again, and both China and India are experiencing slowdowns that our economy is on the rebound? Even if I buy that, it in no way has anything to do with the massive debt the govt has accumulated, and how we are expected to remedy that. There are only three options, raise taxes, cut spending, and/or default, and they all affect the economy. The only other options is to continue borrowing from whoever will give us the money, and keep spending like there is no tomorrow, which there won't be if we follow that path. I don’t have the confidence that the incumbent or any of the candidates have a viable plan to curb spending, or help the private sector significantly improve the job picture.
      • adubw 4 months ago
        Thank you T-Rock, I really couldn't have said it better. In particular, I'm in 110% agreement with your statement "three options, raise taxes, cut spending, and/or default, and they all affect the economy"...the fourth option, inflate out debt to the point that a Big Mac cost a couple benjamins also screws the ecomomy, two-fold, our debtors get screwed because they're paid back in inflated dollars and will no longer be willing the lend money at a rate less than inflation.
      • MICHAEL 4 months ago
        any one of those options will result in chaos and a high crime, this is the calm before the storm
      • Gerard 4 months ago
        I think the answer is obvious, they will expand the money supply and inflate our way out of debt. The irony is that this will ignite inflation which will hurt the poor and middle class the most - the very people that Odumba claims to want to help. Is he just stupid or does he only care about power and getting re-elected. I think it is obvious. He will be re-elected before this house of cards collapses, but history will not be kind to Mr Odumba!
    • Mathew  •  Anchorage, Alaska  •  4 months ago
      HAHAAHAH!
      How the hell are we going to create jobs w/o a manufacturing core?
      What else do we export but debt?
      This is a sad, sad, sad state of our economy.
      America will slide down the rabbit hole farther until the tunnel caves in and smothers us.
      The only way this will change (and it will be a rough for a lack of a better word change) is if we end the FED and start printing our own currency backed by something real.
      A private corp issuing our money is what is KILLING us!
      Good luck my fellow Americans, it soon will be the has and has nots.
      • anonymous 4 months ago
        Global corporations can outsource to lowest level of wages, labor laws, environmental rules etc. That is known as "race to the bottom". Global poverty for 90%, 9.9 % are "middle class" and .1% wealthy. Only laws can prevent it. And that ain't happening in my lifetime.
      • R.Way 4 months ago
        "...it soon will be the had's and had-not's" implies the 1% actually share in this pain of Global Collapse. Hope even that bit is correct! I'm sick of the 1%'s Class Warfare!
    • Eric Cobb  •  Albuquerque, New Mexico  •  4 months ago
      Yeah right. And just wait until all those foreclosed homes are dumped onto the market by FannieMae, et al.
      • Made in the USA 4 months ago
        already happening. very unfair for people who stuck it out
    • kt  •  4 months ago
      US is in recession now, at least on the street, not wall street
    • ernesto  •  4 months ago
      The cost of gas/oil/utilities will continue to choke off a complete recovery, as too much of our disposable incomes are spent on NOT stimulating the retail/service economy we've created. Put America back on the manufacturing map & make energy clean, safe & affordable to really fuel a full recovery!
      • treesrme 4 months ago
        i agree.. if we were not being gouged by every necessity and fee'd and fined to death and monetarily penalized for breathing we would be spending money on more stuff.. pursuing happiness these days is a full time job.. we must be our own watch dogs.. there are so many good things our country could be doing.. positive, world healthy, growth for all.. not just a few at the expense of the many..
    • Flyer1  •  4 months ago
      Wages are growing slower than inflation - we are still in recession. That is the only statistic that matters.
      We have been in a recession for close to 10 years now. We will continue to be in a recession for 10 more. The BLS is a propoganda machine for the US Plutocracy. Europe is flying past us - including the PIIGS and the majority of working Americans would be better off there as healthcare and education is more affordable and retirement is a reality. We are slowing sliding into a mediocre second rate country.
      • CT 4 months ago
        We'd be lucky to be a 'second rate' country. We can possibly become like Nicaragua at its worst when the CIA was running United Fruit and its personal army of killers.
      • victor 4 months ago
        wages aint growing people r working over time
      • Irene P 4 months ago
        Who was running the country 10 years ago?
    • mike  •  Elmhurst, Illinois  •  4 months ago
      There are those predicting a stock market correction which will be an indication that this so-called "recovery" has been proven to be only possible because it has been propped up by the fed reserve.

      I'm with them. I think we are in for another March 2009 "cleansing".

      And for those who think we are in a recovery, how do you recover with unemployment where it's at, with housing priced where it is, with record setting numbers of people on food stamps,and a government spending us broke.

      Hope I'm wrong,but I don't think so.
    • Vera  •  Aachen, Germany  •  4 months ago
      "The popular wisdom today is that the U.S. economy is on track for a recovery and that a double-dip recession has been averted." That "wisdom" is put forward only by the financial press -- the man in the street knows better that the recession goes on.
    • derrick  •  Corvallis, Oregon  •  4 months ago
      RON PAUL predicted it.. petter shift and others 08'
    • robert  •  Stockton, California  •  4 months ago
      poor dan gross.. he's just too young and doesn't know what he doesn't know... With growth under 2% for every quarter since end of 07, save (what) 1..This is one long slog and in 15 years will be lumped together as one big recession... Oh and by the way Dan, this GROWTH ,as you say, was only possible through near zero interest rates and multiple annual trillion dollar deficits.
    • Ron  •  4 months ago
      Well get ready to count the unemployed that are returning from being hired during the holidays or have you manipulated that figure too?
      This is so political that even a blind man can see it!
      Got news for you, unemployment real numbers put us near 20% and not 8%. Thats a farce. In some places its above 30% and growing.
      If Barrack keeps blocking programs like Keystone and re-opening the Gulf as he was ordered to by the supreme court then there will be no activity in the private sector.
    • Richard  •  St Louis, Missouri  •  4 months ago
      I don't agree, unemploment is falling because people are falling off the rolls, the Gov. owes some $15T-17 Trillion and growing and no end in sight and several countries in Eur. will fail, I see the market falling 30%-40% if not this year, next for sure.
    • R.Way  •  Oregon City, Oregon  •  4 months ago
      "Double-Dip Recession Averted"? Who wouldn't be enthusiastic!

      How about, "Benevolent Aliens Arrive; Show Scientists Virtually Free/Clean/Boundless Energy Production Method"? Anyone, (who's not in the current energy business), would be MUCH more enthused!

      How about, "God Has a Change of Heart; Decides, no Exclusions --Everyone Goes to Heaven!-- Despite Bad Behavior"? Anyone, (who's not in the current Salvation business... and Satan), would be ECSTATICALLY more enthusiastic, still!

      How 'bout we quit ignoring that Banksterism is a Global Industry? Today's news:

      Germany's economy is stumbling, (negative 4Q-GDP), and Italy's biggest lenders (a.k.a., Banksters) are the Mafia... literally factual and key to the coming storm of Too Big To Fail-2, (now, 30% BIGGER and holding carte blanche right to buy all coming elections, thanks to the Supreme's sell-out!)

      Sorry, Virginia. There is no tooth fairy.
    • Impaler  •  4 months ago
      Recession averted? Companies are in the biggest bull run of their earnings history. Recession for the middle class is still very much here
    • PARTH V  •  Mt Hamilton, California  •  4 months ago
      Did they legalize drugs in NYC?
    • MartinF  •  Dallas, Texas  •  4 months ago
      Jamie Dimon is the poster child for everything that is wrong with this country. He and his management team structured defective mortgage products that brought the economy to it's knees when they failed, accepted a huge bailout from the government and Fed, then blamed it all on the sales force (mortgage brokers), while pocketing huge bonuses for their criminal behavior. Shame on Mr. Dimon and everybody like him.
    • Trisha  •  Palmdale, California  •  4 months ago
      AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH OUR RETURNING SOLDERS? WHAT DO WE TELL THEM? "Huh sorry we dont have any jobs for you.....we are to busy giving them to...& taking care of....."
    • Frank  •  San Francisco, California  •  4 months ago
      In an economy whose health is based on ever-increasing consumption, there's a ceiling. SELL MORE CARS. How many can you sell? 10 Mil? Done. 20 Mil? Easy. 50 Mil? Umm. 100 Mil? Long before then, I'd start investing in parking places. Oh, sorry, the Gov't already has those. They're called "Freeways". Same with "Consumer Electronics". If a billion isn't too many, then I'm guessing 100 billion probably is. So, without telling you what the limits are, I will still assert that there in fact are limits.
    • Richard  •  New York, New York  •  4 months ago
      Republicans and Democrats, Obama or Romney, our political parties are one in the same. No matter who you elect, they will only be concerned with getting re-elected. "Recession" is becoming our NEW NORMAL so adjust to the way things are, NOTHING is changing!!

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