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As Gloom Rises, U.S. Economic Data Turn Positive

Last summer, with market turmoil, a vicious hurricane, and the debt downgrade, it sure seemed like the U.S. was headed back into recession, and soon. The economy had slowed to near stall speed in the first and second quarters, bad news seemed to flow in from all over, and the most reliable progonosticators were forecasting gloom. In late September, Lakshman Achuthan of Economic Cycle Research Institute proclaimed on The Daily Ticker that an economic contraction was unavoidable.

But a funny thing happened on the way to the next recession. Instead of decelerating in the summer and the fall, the economy seems to have accelerated. While Europe muddles its way into stagnation, the U.S. seems to be plowing ahead. The good times are hardly rolling. But as Henry and I discuss in the accompanying segment, the flow of economic data in recent weeks has been almost uniformly positive.

Take the broadest measure: GDP. After growing at a .4 percent annual rate in the first quarter and a 1.3 percent annual rate in the second quarter, the Commerce Department today gave its second answer on third quarter growth: 2.0 percent. That's a downward revision from the previously reported figure, but it still represents a rising pace of growth — not a setting one. Macroeconomic Advisers, which provides real-time estimates of GDP growth, says the economy is growing at a 3.2 percent rate thus far in the fourth quarter.

Macroeconomic Advisers reaches its conclusions by plugging economic data into a baseline model as it comes in. And over the last several weeks, almost every piece of news has been positive — and if not positive, then not exactly negative. On the employment front, 80,000 jobs were added in October and the previous two months' job figures were revised higher. In the three-month period from August through October, the private sector added 367,000 jobs. First-time unemployment claims continue to fall, sliding to 388,000 in the most recent week and hitting their lowest level since April. Industrial production, which fell in September, rose .7 percent in October, and was 3.9 percent higher in October 2011 than it was in October 2010. On the trade front, September exports came in at a record $180.4 billion, and the trade deficit narrowed a bit. Retail sales rose in October, hitting a record $397.7 billion; the three-month total for August-October retail sales was up 7.6 percent from the year-before period. October car sales came in at a healthy clip, up 7. 5 percent from October 2010. Inflation has moderated, with the Consumer Price Index falling .1 percent in October. Even the most tragic and perennially depressed sector of the economy is showing some signs of life. Did you know that housing starts in October were up 16.5 percent from October 2010? And that through the first ten months of 2011, housing starts are actually marginally higher than they were in the first ten months of 2010? The Conference Board's leading economic index, which projects economic activity six to nine months in the future, rose sharply in October.

And all of this is happening without much help from the government. There has been no new stimulus from the Federal Reserve, or from Congress. In the third quarter, declining government spending was a drag on growth. Government employment continues to slump every month.

Of course, plenty can go wrong. A full-on meltdown in Europe is likely to affect the U.S. economy. And the data we have is backward looking and can be revised down. It is entirely possible that when November data on retail sales, employment, and industrial production arrive next month, they will paint a different picture. But if the economy were perched on the edge of recession, if the ill effects of the summer swoon were long-lasting, we would have expected to see it show up in the September and October data. And that hasn't happened yet.

Daniel Gross is economics editor at Yahoo! Finance

Follow him on Twitter @grossdm; email him at grossdaniel11@yahoo.com

His most recent book is Dumb Money: How Our Greatest Financial Minds Bankrupted the Nation

 
 
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121 comments

  • Gary  •  6 months ago
    LOL Come on stop with the bullchit allready!
  • Steven L Goff  •  6 months ago
    The single 'biggest danger' we face going forward is internally from joblessness! With the future of jobs in the world let alone the USA, due to exponential technology advancements that are NOT STOPING, and it's societal civil unrest bi-products we are seeing now (Occupy Movements) That is about as stark as reality get folks! More and more people and an ever lessening amount of JOBS. Is a recipe' for social and economic disaster. Technology is taking the jobs that the human species is not done using yet.
    You are even going give them a job...or give them a check each month! It aint rocket science.
    The first step in solving problem is admitting you have a problem!
    Denial .......just aint a river in Africa ya know! lol
    It is the action of declaring something to be untrue.....and the refusal to admit the truth or reality of. Think about that next time you are at supermarket and there is a self check-out (humanless) kiosk, where about 15 jobs used to be and a cute checkout girl!....lol
    • brad 6 months ago
      Just waiting for "The Games" to begin, anything to keep the population occupied on anything but the truth. The reality is, with such advances in technology, were probably looking at a steady unemployment rate in US of 20-40%.
  • CB01  •  6 months ago
    Daniel, let's be careful about the tone of these articles.

    Keep in mind that there are still 14 million unemployed, and 40 million Americans living in poverty. I can think of nothing more disruptive than if the statistics indicate a return to economic growth yet unemployment and poverty levels remain unchanged.

    Bottom line, if it doesn't feel like recovery, it isn't recovery.
    • Leonidas 6 months ago
      earth to CB01.. dont fret, there IS no return to economic growth. please think before you speak
    • xtra 5 months ago
      i need 20 percent long term bonds just to break even ,, had thought i needed nothing..now i feel poor after being ripped pof of a return on saved dollars....
  • FOURSQUARE  •  6 months ago
    Using the old unemployment data gathering method the BLS used before Clinton, the unemployment rate is around 22%, around 3% shy of the Depression era. Nice recovery!
    • Scott C 6 months ago
      Good post
      Actually though, peak Great Depression unemployment was 25%
      Average unemployment was 18%
    • dgrubb67526 6 months ago
      Foursquare, Now good artilleryman that you are. Let us remember that 25% unemployment during the last depression was at the worst and That was 4, FOUR years after the crash in 29. Or 1933-34. So we got one or two to go also before we hit bottom at least.
    • ozymandias 5 months ago
      Unemployment is 40% among Obama voters. Democrats prey on the feeble minded.
  • Rich W  •  6 months ago
    Propaganda.
    Real estate values have declined 9 trillion since 2006. They are supposed to decline another 25% in the next 4-5 years.
    1 in 7, 45,000,000 were on food stamps and in poverty last year. This year it has increased to 45,800,000, so, no, there was no recovery, and things are worse this year.
    • Dan 6 months ago
      You correctly labeled your comment as propaganda.
    • Rich W 6 months ago
      The video was propaganda since you couldn't figure that out. My post is factual.
    • xtra 5 months ago
      have pages upon pages of residential units below 30 thousand dollars some having recently appraised as high as 200,000 sitting on my to do list desk.......
  • Michele  •  6 months ago
    Another "Power of Suggestion!" If you believed this you are part of the equation to bandage the wart economy. Lie, lie, lie...
  • john  •  6 months ago
    Feb 13, 2009. President Obama urges Congress to pass the $787 billion-plus stimulus package, one of his favorite selling points is the thousands of projects nationwide that he calls "shovel ready"

    RESULT:

    June 13, 2011. Obama smiled and interjected, "Shovel-ready was not as ... uh .. shovel-ready as we expected." The Jobs Council, led by GE's Jeffrey Immelt, erupted in laughter.

    The Obama administration promised the Recovery Act ("the stimulus") would prevent the jobless rate from going over 8%. It now stands at 9.2%.

    I guess blowing a trillion of our tax dollars on non-existent "shovel ready" jobs is a big joke to Obama!

    Here is to continuing the 2010 mid-term and 2011 NY 9th Republican Tsunami in 2012!
    • prguy 6 months ago
      John, you really donot understand Socialism. Watching Fox news doesn't make you an expert on Socialism.
    • x 6 months ago
      Prguy where is John going wrong? He seems to understand Socialism quite well. So unless you can back up your statement with a somewhat rational view you just unloaded a bunch of crap on us and I can only conclude you do not understand socialism.
  • CommonSense  •  5 months ago
    Positive? U mean CEO's have gotten even more bonuses for firing US workers?
  • BarryW  •  5 months ago
    Fundamentas of US economy does not seem to matter. It is all about Europe.
  • mike  •  5 months ago
    Loyalty to party is more important than loyalty to the oath of office. Truth seems to be the first victim in the political battle of fear.
  • One Nation Underwater  •  5 months ago
    You can only live for so long on borrowed money.
  • Scott C  •  6 months ago
    RICO PAC politico$ and bank$ter$ continue to betray
  • spitting_sea_snake  •  6 months ago
    U.S. will be hurt by Europe, but China is letting the U.S. into its markets in a way it simply hasn't before, U.S. stocks will likely plummet for awhile, but we are plummetting into what we can view as corporate strengths
  • fedup  •  5 months ago
    Cheer up crybabies...good times are comin!
  • Roger L  •  6 months ago
    3rd quarter GDP was revised downward from 2.5% increase to 2.0%. The economy never goes straight down. The bond vigilanties are going after the core of the Euro Welfare States (Germany). After the Euro goes, they will come after the US Welfare State. Gross is an Obama-Krugman cheerleader.
  • Newport  •  5 months ago
    we know this is not true because you lib press yahoo and the rest of lib press would give him your pres credit for anything and we also know that you can.t spend 4 .5 billon dollars a day that we don/t have we know this so go about your lies and make it better than it is until we stop spending and get a press that tells the truth we will go down this path of no return and it willn't we worth blaming anybody because it will be over the way our life as we know it
  • Cup of tea  •  5 months ago
    I believe Denial has a dictionary different than ours'. At least for the explanation for "positive"
  • Uncle Pieter  •  5 months ago
    Sure. And don't forget, Santa is coming. Propaganda. Ask yourself, are you better off?
    I thought so.
  • Tim  •  5 months ago
    Guess I'll put everything back in stocks, on second thought hell no!!!
  • kc  •  5 months ago
    Just keep telling yourself this bull. This is not going to change anytime soon. This is absolute bull****. Yet , you guys keep on with the 'positive spin' like "America is Back" REALLY? Back from WHAT? I don't know anyone who is BACK!

    You guys are like the grandest ostriches that ever lived on Earth. If you believe this gloom, you are right on the money but you still are not representing it correctly. It is MUCH worse. C'mon. NOTHING is going to get better, it is NOT NOT NOT going to change OR get better.

    ENOUGH!!!! With this kind of BULL****!

    Some of us are smart and can see thru the smoke screen and horse manure you guys put out and none of it holds water. None. So, you basically? Are either misinformed or you are stupid or you are lying. It's one or more of those. THAT, I believe.

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About Daniel Gross

Daniel Gross joined Yahoo! Finance in the fall of 2010 as columnist, economics editor, and a co-host of The Daily Ticker. The best-selling author of six books, including Forbes Greatest Business Stories and Dumb Money: How Our Greatest Financial Minds Bankrupted the Nation, Gross has been covering politics, business, and economics for two decades. The longtime “Moneybox” columnist for Slate, he was a staff writer and columnist for Newsweek and a contributor to the “Economic View” column in the New York Times.

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