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Shrewd Mortgage Borrowers Know Their PNPs

by Jack M. Guttentag

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In the mortgage market, PNP stands for "pricing notch point," which is a value of one of the factors used in pricing at which the price changes. In most lines of business, the factor used to price is the quantity purchased. For example, at the farm stand where I buy corn, the price is $.70 an ear for the first three ears, $.65 for the next three, and $.60 for any ears beyond six. This merchant’s PNPs are three ears and six ears. These PNPs are pretty easy for consumers to understand, but the stakes are small.

PNPs are more complicated, but the stakes are high. On a mortgage, the "price" includes the interest rate, mortgage insurance premium, and points, any or all of which can change in response to changes in loan size, loan-to-value ratio (LTV), and credit score. Each of these has its own PNPs.

As an example, on September 18, 2009, the interest rate on a 30-year prime FRM at zero points was 4.75 percent for a loan amount of $417,000, and 5.375 percent on a loan of $417,001. $417,000 was a loan-size PNP. On a prime 30-year FRM, the monthly mortgage insurance premium was .69 percent at an LTV of 85 percent, and .88 percent at an LTV of 85.1 percent. 85 percent was an LTV PNP. The same mortgage with a rate of 4.875 percent had points of .3 percent with a FICO score of 720, and points of .8 percent with a FICO of 719. 720 was a FICO-score PNP.

Since the increase in price that results from crossing a PNP applies to the entire loan, not just to the increment, the increment can be extremely costly. While no one would borrow $417,001, as in the above example, they might borrow $500,000. In that case, the cost of the $83,000 increment would be 5.375 percent on the increment, plus an additional .625 percent on the $417,000. The moral is that you don’t pass a PNP in the wrong direction if you can possibly avoid it.

Conventional Loans

On conventional loans, there are now two loan amount PNPs. One is $417,000, called the "conforming loan limit," which is the largest loan that can be purchased by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in any part of the country. The second PNP, called the “conforming jumbo limit,” varies by county up to $729,750 and is scheduled to expire at the end of 2009.

PNPs in the ratio of loan amount to property value are generally 80 percent, 85 percent, 90 percent, 95 percent, and 97 percent. In the crisis market that developed after the housing bubble burst in 2007, 75 percent also became a PNP.

PNPs often become relevant in connection with the issue of whether or not to finance closing costs, since doing so increases the loan amount and could breach a PNP. As an example, if closing costs on a $400,000 loan are $8,000 and the initial LTV is 80 percent to 83 percent of value, financing the closing costs won’t affect the price because the ratio will remain below 85 percent.

But if the initial LTV was 84 percent, adding the $8,000 would bring the ratio above 85 percent, raising the price on the $400,000. That would make the cost of the $8,000 astronomical.

Another Important Point

Another situation where PNPs are important to borrowers is where they have the capacity to make a larger down payment, or to pay down the balance preparatory to a refinance. If the larger down payment or prepayment penetrates a PNP, the return on investment will be very high. The financial crisis increased these returns by widening the price spreads between PNPs, and by eroding borrower equity.

As an example, a borrower who wrote me recently was paying 6.125 percent on her current mortgage and qualified for a no-cost refinance at 5.125 percent, which was highly advantageous. Because of the decline in the value of her home, however, her LTV had risen to 86 percent, which would require purchasing mortgage insurance on the refinance.

To avoid that, she would have to pay down the loan balance by enough to reduce the LTV to 80 percent. Relative to remaining with her current mortgage, I calculated the annual rate of return on the required investment at 18 percent over five years and 16.6 percent over 30 years, with no risk. Equally high returns are available on modest-size investments in partial prepayments that convert jumbo into conforming loans.

FICO-score PNPs may differ some from lender to lender, but they are equally important. A typical set would be 800, 780, 720, 700, 680, 660, 640, and 620. Mortgage applicants are much more likely to be on the wrong side of a FICO-score PNP than an LTV or loan amount PNP. They are less likely to know the FICO-score PNPs, and in many cases they don’t know their own score going in. Further, their loan provider may or may not be willing to put a deal on hold in order to work on an applicant's credit score. I will be discussing this issue in a future column.

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  • Ashwini P - Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 7:49PM ET  Report Abuse

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    nice one

  • Yahoo! Finance User - Thursday, October 29, 2009, 5:52PM ET  Report Abuse

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    The information listed is good to know however I agree with an earlier post that indicated the term PNP has never been used in the 30 years I have been in the mortgage business. Just know these facts- Your interest rate has and always should have been based on the 4 C's of credit. Credit rating, Capacity to pay, Collateral and Character. Rates and costs are meaningless unless a lender has the above information in order to give you a proper "diagnosis". Not unlike going to a Doctor. If you don't tell him your symptoms he can't give your a correct treatment. Any good and knowledgable Mortgage Broker or Loan Officer should or would tell you about the PNP's and what is best for you. Contrary to what many may believe, the broker or loan officer makes not one cent more from you going above one of these thresholds and in fact could make less. They should advise you on your PNP choices to assist you in making a correct decision. Many borrowers get ripped off because they don't do their homework when searching for a broker or lender. They see some flashy ad or low teaser rate and call a company out of the blue. Most will put more effort into comparing costs for a new TV or sofa! Do the smart thing. If you don' t know a trustworthy broker ask your SHARP friends or family who they recommend but don't just stop there. Get at least 3 good faith estimates and guarantees about the costs. Make sure they are from someone recommended to you. If you provided them with the information needed on the 4 C's. They can and should be able to quarantee the costs. If they refuse than move on to another broker/ loan officer. I hate to read about all the people who state they were ripped off by their lender! 80% of them could have avoided their problem by doing a little homework on one of the biggest financial decisions they make in their lives. Find a good broker or lender and stick with them, recommend them to your family and friends and don't fall for the traps and crap of fancy slight of hand ads etc. Good Luck to you all but more importantly Good Investigating to you all.

  • Nestor - Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 12:38PM ET  Report Abuse

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    Good article, but I miss the guidance on where to find the exact PNP's...not every lender may disclose them

  • YahooUser - Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:02PM ET  Report Abuse

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    The rate increase for loans of $417k or more affecting the entire loan amount is a good piece of information. Such ideas seem so simple yet until they are pointed out, some may not realize them.

  • N - Monday, October 26, 2009, 3:58PM ET  Report Abuse

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    An interesting read. I imagine the lower ratings from some posters can be attributed to inexperience or indifference, which is sad. Then again, lots of people out there are simply not "spreadsheet people"... and so, I get why they wouldn't do the analysis. For those of us who are so inclined, however, your points are well received. To "richard" who posted a comment shortly before mine, I believe your thoughts, though certainly rational, do not necessarily represent the best allocation of cash. Consider, for example, the scenario you laid out coming to fruition. If we really do have another crash right around the corner (very possible, I agree), wouldn't it be more logical to keep your cash liquid -- rather than tying it up in your home, which may continue to lose value... and which you may not be able to refinance when the crash occurs? I would suggest that being ABLE to pay off your home is a noble and worthwhile goal. The decision of whether or not to mail in that lump-sum payment, however, is something worth contemplating for a while. It would be a shame for someone to own their home free and clear, and yet not be able to put groceries in their fridge. Best wishes to all, as we try to make the best decisions for our own situations.

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