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Robert Kiyosaki, Why the Rich Get Richer

Why Mutual Funds Are Lousy Long-Term Investments

by Robert Kiyosaki

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This past Christmas, I was at a party, and a man who's about 10 years older than I am asked me what mutual funds I invested in. My reply was "None. I rarely invest in mutual funds because of the lack of transparency. I don't know their fees. And I know there are hidden expenses they don't need to disclose to investors."

Hearing that, he nearly choked on his spiked eggnog. "What do you mean there's no transparency? My mutual-fund companies send me a report every year." Getting into an argument over mutual funds at a holiday party is not a way to enjoy the season. Rather than offer my information where it wasn't wanted, I thought it better to explain further to readers why I don't invest for the long term in mutual funds.

Fee Problem

A vast number of people think that investing for the long term in a diversified portfolio of mutual funds is the smart thing to do. In my opinion, this ranks among the worst possible investments.

The problem with funds is fees. The longer you invest in a mutual fund, the more you pay in fees. I've pointed out before that when I buy a piece of real estate or a stock, I pay the sales commission once, but when I purchase a mutual fund, I pay a sales commission for as long as I own the fund (see "So Long Pensions, Hello Fees" ).

That's why the return on investment is much lower on mutual funds -- and why gains get lower the longer you own them. The reason most financial planners recommend you invest for the long term is simply because the longer you hold on to the fund, the more money they make.

How Much Do Fund Companies Make?

Just how much does a fund company make from investors who hang in there for the long term? John Bogle, the founder of the very successful Vanguard Group, shed some light on that.

He was asked by an interviewer with the TV program "Frontline," "What percentage of my net growth is going to fees in a 401(k) plan?" Bogle replied, "Well it's awesome. Let me give you a little longer-term example. An individual who's 20-years old today [is] starting to accumulate for retirement.... That person has about 45 years to go before retirement -- 20 to 65 -- and then, if you believe the actuarial tables, another 20 years to go before death mercifully brings his or her life to a close. So that's 65 years of investing. If you invest $1,000 at the beginning of that time and earn 8 percent, that $1,000 will grow...to around $140,000."

He continued: "Now the financial system -- the mutual-fund system in this case -- will take about 2.5 percentage points out of that return, so you'll have a net return of 5.5 percent, and your $1,000 will grow to approximately $30,000 to you the investor."

"Think about that. That means the financial system put up zero percent of the capital and took zero percent of the risk and got almost 80 percent of the return. And you, the investor in this long time period, an investment lifetime, put up 100 percent of the capital, took 100 percent of the risk, and got only a little bit over 20 percent of the return. That's a financial system that's failing investors because of those costs of financial advice and brokerage, some hidden, some out in plain sight, that investors face today. So the system has to be fixed," said Bogle.

In other words, the longer you invest, the more the investment house makes. That's why the financial institutions recommend you invest for the long term.

Occasionally, I will buy a mutual fund. But I'll never hold it for a long period of time.

So What Should You Invest In?

The next time you hear a financial expert recommend that you "invest for the long term in mutual funds," take a moment to ask them to explain how their fees work over the long run. I suspect you'll hear some interesting answers -- if they can answer the question.

The reason they'll probably not be able to give you a definitive answer is because most financial experts don't know how much a mutual fund's fees and expenses are as most funds aren't required to disclose all such charges. In other words, there's no transparency.

If you're a passive investor, you may want to consider investing in index funds, which Mr. Bogle's fund company, Vanguard, specializes in (though not exclusively). Simply put, index funds have lower fees so the investor has a chance of making more money. After all, isn't that why we invest?

While index funds have the potential of generating greater returns via lower fees, I would still prefer to be an active investor. Most index funds think a 10 percent to 25 percent return is a good rate. Active investors can regularly beat those gains, especially if they stay away from traditional investments such as savings, stocks, bonds, and index and mutual funds (for more on being an active investor and not a passive one, see "To Diversify or Not to Diversify" ).

Summarizing what Bogle is saying, if you invest in mutual funds for a long period of time, this is a simplified picture of how the return is split over the long term -- and who takes the risk.

Mutual-Fund CompanyInvestor
80 percent of the return20 percent of the return
0 percent of the capital100 percent of the capital
0 percent of the risk100 percent of the risk

If you don't like the above distribution of returns, I suggest you contact John Bogle or try index funds.

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  • jamesvon - Monday, August 3, 2009, 11:13PM ET  Report Abuse

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    Nice insights. It's a choice we have to decide. Pay the broker his fees for managing your diversified mutual fund. You lose, he doesn't lose anything. He make you gain, then he himself gains. Though it's good for starters.

  • Grunt - Friday, July 10, 2009, 5:43AM ET  Report Abuse

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    Interesting view but it doesn't make any sense. A lot of my friends have a great respect for Mr. RK but i can't find myself being impressed by RK's opinion in this article. Maybe the best thing for Mr. RK to do is to stick to the knitting and doing what you do best and that is in motivational areas rather than try to become a financial expert and loose credibility. I'm hoping that this is just an imposter posts and not really Mr. RK's article.

  • Rufus - Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 6:49PM ET  Report Abuse

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    Article is misleading. The claim that the mutual fund company is keeping 80% is misleading. FYI, the average NET of fee return is 8%. It should read that in this example, the investor is missing out on 80% of the possible return over this time period. The mutual fund (according to this example) is getting 2.5%... not 80% of the potential return. It's simple math. Also, it is misleading to say that indexes are better than funds. Some are, but most are not. A mutual fund that consistantly underperforms against its index will eventually be closed due to lack of investors. In reality, it is not difficult to find a mutual fund that consistantly outperforms its respective index. Keep in mind, when you buy an index fund, you buy the bad with the good. Most mutual fund do an excellent job at screening for quality companies. Finally, some mutual funds have expenses illustrated in this article. Many do not, they are much lower. Regardless, who cares what the cost is as long as there is a better than average net return on your investment. For example: If you had a black box, and on one end of that black box you were able to put in a dollar and after a year on the other end of the box it spit out two dollars. Now I ask you, do you really care what happened inside of that box? Not as long as twice as much money continues to come out of the other end. Mutual funds are not different. Mr. Kiyosaki, I'm a fan. But I am extremely disappointed in you for publishing this article.

  • Cina - Saturday, January 17, 2009, 12:54PM ET  Report Abuse

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    Kiyosaki writes nonsense. He is a motivational speaker not a financial expert. He sells millions of books duping the guileless mass who don't know any better.

  • The Investment Scientist - Thursday, January 31, 2008, 4:54PM ET  Report Abuse

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    PK's advice to be an active investor is not a sound one for most investors. Most active investors trade on emotions, which are detrimental to long term returns. On the other, though indexing is a disciplined approach, it is not discriminating between good stocks and bad stocks. If one can be truly disciplined and discriminating, one can achieve long term investment success . However, that's asking too much from an average investor. The way to go is to follow John Bogle's advice - go with index funds.

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