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Ben Stein How Not to Ruin Your Life

Ben Stein, How Not to Ruin Your Life

How to Have a Business Conversation

by Ben Stein

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Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007, 12:00AM

In the course of climbing the corporate ladder, or of just managing the little corner of the world you occupy, you have to communicate with people. It's not always easy, but you have to do it.

Some of this communication amounts to simple conversation, and it's been dawning on me for a long time now that a great many young people don't know how to have one. In fact, a great many older people don't know how to have a conversation, either.

Ten Conversation Tips

Frankly, I don't see how people can advance in their careers if they don't know how to have a conversation. For most people, work -- not investments -- is their livelihood.

So I thought I'd offer up a few basic ideas on how to have a conversation with someone you just met.

1. Begin by knowing that the people you're talking to mostly want to talk about themselves.

They want to talk about their lives, their tastes, their views. To the extent that you let them do that, you facilitate conversation and good feeling.

A simple way to begin a conversation is to ask a person the most basic question: "How are you today?" The person will usually give a cursory answer such as, "I'm fine. How are you?"

If your conversation partner goes off on a long tangent about what she had to eat that morning, what she bought that afternoon, and how her mother treated her that evening, you're warned to simply terminate the conversation at once and go on to the next person.

Otherwise, you might continue by asking, "Where are you from?" This usually allows for the next rule of conversation:

2. Establish common ground.

For example, if your conversation partner is from Idaho, talk about how often you've been to Idaho and how beautiful it is there. If you've never been to Idaho, talk about how you've heard it's beautiful there and how much you've always wanted to visit.

This helps to establish the next rule:

3. Say kind, generous things to your conversation partner.

Talk about how beautiful his home area is. Talk about how you have seen the mountains there and how fabulous they are. Talk about how bracing the air there is.

Or, if you can't think of anything to say about the person's home, offer compliments about something else. Talk about how nice her hair looks or how nice his suit is. People like to be complimented. If they don't like to be complimented, they're not well in the head and you ought to leave them well enough alone.

If they react negatively to compliments, again, move on to the next topic or the next person.

4. Keep your comments brief.

Don't respond to a question about where you're from with a long, detailed answer about all the places you've ever been. Talk about how you are that day in a short, punchy way. Answer in detail only if your partner asks in detail.

You know how you don't like to be bored by long answers? Everyone else on the planet feels the same way. Brevity is a good way to make friends. You never want to be so brief as to be rude, but again, brief is good.

5. Get back on common ground again as soon as you can.

Ask what your colleague or neighbor does for a living. If he or she does anything at all, say how interesting that is. Ask for an explanation of what it is if you don't understand.

I've had some of the most interesting, revealing conversations of my life just by asking people what they do. What does a "chemical engineer" do? Just by asking that I learned volumes about how the energy business works. What does a petroleum geologist do? What's sedimentary rock and how do you get oil out of it? I learned all this just by asking people what they do and then asking for more explanation.

People want to talk about their lives, and you oblige them, make them like you, and learn from them by allowing them to talk.

This is especially true in job interviews. You want to allow your interviewer to do a big chunk of the talking. In so doing, you learn where to make your points, where to keep quiet, and how to explain yourself so you fit into the interviewer's world.

6. Don't brag unless you do it in a funny way.

Don't tell people how much money you make. Don't tell people how cool you are. No one likes a braggart. No one likes to feel small compared with anyone else.

Just be modest about your achievements. Even if the person you're talking to brags, don't brag yourself.

7. Unless you're specifically asked about it, don't talk about religion at all.

You're very likely to make enemies and not at all likely to make friends if you bring up religion. Most people have different views about religion from yours, and you can scarcely conceive of a better way to alienate people than trying to press your religious views on them.

8. The same goes for politics.

You can hardly hope to meet someone whose political views exactly match yours, so you can easily offend by pressing your views on someone else. Just smile and listen quietly and go on to the next thing.

Unless you meet someone who says, "I know you and I totally agree with you," don't get into politics at all.

9. If you talk about current issues, do so in a genial, friendly way.

Don't start fights about Hillary Clinton or George Bush or anyone else. Just smile and laugh about it, and if the person you're talking to insists on saying provocative things, change the subject.

If the person persists, say you have work to do and, with a smile, go on to something else.

10. Make whatever points you need to make in a hurry, and then leave.

Don't feel your time and your conversation partner's time have no value. Time is everything in life, and you oblige people by saving their time.

In a job interview, for example, make whatever points -- always complimentary -- you care to make, answer questions, and then leave. But leave with a smile and a firm handshake.

You'd be amazed at how many people don't know any of these rules. If you do, you're way ahead of the game.

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  • Yahoo! Finance User - Thursday, May 31, 2007, 4:53PM ET  Report Abuse

    • Overall: 5/5

    All valid points. Thank you. -Steven Burda

  • jojo b - Monday, May 7, 2007, 9:16PM ET  Report Abuse

    • Overall: 4/5

    i think Mr. Ben Stein advice does really makes sense.It's very helpful.

  • Yahoo! Finance User - Tuesday, May 1, 2007, 4:26PM ET  Report Abuse

    • Overall: 2/5

    I especially agree with Ben's last point. I would be amazed if many people didn't know any of those rules. But I like his tie.

  • DAVID - Friday, April 27, 2007, 4:04PM ET  Report Abuse

    • Overall: 5/5

    Thank you.At least I learned this better late than never.

  • C&#39;Marie - Friday, April 27, 2007, 1:09PM ET  Report Abuse

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    I love Ben Stein! I agree, conversation skills have deteriorated greatly, along with the great manners and general civility of generations before us. I am 28 and disgusted by the bad manners, grammer, common decency, and lack of respect of my peers. I thank my parents. I hated them then but professionally what they taught me has been PRICELESS. They apparently knew BEN. Teach your children!!!!!!

  • barbecued_piglet - Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 11:51PM ET  Report Abuse

    • Overall: 5/5

    This is good advice. Ben Stein is your friend. I mean that.

  • Yahoo! Finance User - Tuesday, April 24, 2007, 1:13PM ET  Report Abuse

    • Overall: 5/5

    I liked Ben Stein's ideas on investing. Now I know he's got great ideas that can help me in my career too.

  • Devendra - Monday, April 23, 2007, 1:38AM ET  Report Abuse

    • Overall: 5/5

    Simple but useful information presented well.

  • upndown - Sunday, April 22, 2007, 8:31PM ET  Report Abuse

    • Overall: 5/5

    I guess common conversation as well as common sense are not so common.

  • Suteebu - Sunday, April 22, 2007, 10:56AM ET  Report Abuse

    • Overall: 5/5

    This article is excellent. You never know what you may learn from someone. I wish he would have added that IPods and cell phones are conversation stoppers.

  • MoneyNing - Sunday, April 22, 2007, 10:32AM ET  Report Abuse

    • Overall: 5/5

    Many excellent points touched here. Well worth the read and just remember that practice makes perfect!

  • Greg N - Saturday, April 21, 2007, 5:31PM ET  Report Abuse

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    Nice points that hit the mark for the most part. I do want to say though that I have interviewed hundreds of people for hiring purposes and it was always a point for me to ensure that the interviewee did as much of the talking as possible so be prepared for that. I did it with open ended questions like "give me an example of a conflict you had on your previous job and how you solved it". By doing that I would get the chance to really know who I was interviewing. So be prepared to talk in an interview not just sit there and listen.

  • JM - Saturday, April 21, 2007, 2:03PM ET  Report Abuse

    • Overall: 5/5

    Excellent and applicable in many cultures, certainly in Europe too.

  • Blessing - Thursday, April 19, 2007, 7:46AM ET  Report Abuse

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    I do not think it is right to compliment on only the things that are nice about a colleague you are conversing with,if that how could there be change for those that are awful about his/her place.

  • Yahoo! Finance User - Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 5:19PM ET  Report Abuse

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    Thanks for the tips and reminders. Everything always seems to go back to the Golden Rule. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". Be pleasant and interested as you would like others to be with you.

  • LORI - Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 5:00PM ET  Report Abuse

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    I didn't see" family" mentioned in your article. From my past sales and other employment experience, I have found that almost everyone loves to talk about their children, as to their names and ages or if they are living on their own now and if they recently married....If you show an interest in their family, they will feel comfortable talking to you. If someone makes a comment that sounds negative on the family question which rarely happens, then just change the subject....like that is a great OR lovely suit they are wearing, tell them you really like the style,color or material.Tje conversation has started ! The rest of your article is great, so many people do not have the skill or the courage to carry on an intelligent conversation,and sometimes they are so shy, they are just waiting for someone to talk to them !! You would be so surprised, once they open up and start talking, it's hard to shut them up..Ha,!! I have always learned something new from every conversation with each different person on many subjects, so it is well worth the effort to always make nice conversation.

  • Jannah - Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 4:26PM ET  Report Abuse

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    Elementary. No offense but I was hoping to actually learn something. This was like ESL learning. I think the number one thing to remember is that the "conversational partner" whether your superior or subordinate is a PERSON. A whole human being with a past, feelings, plans, and family. Respect is essential.

  • Cherry - Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 4:25PM ET  Report Abuse

    • Overall: 4/5

    This is valuable advice, especially for people in sales. I will incorporate in my sales pitch starting today. This is priceless!

  • Clara - Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 4:04PM ET  Report Abuse

    • Overall: 5/5

    Thanks, I hadn't really thought about my conversational patterns until reading these rules.

  • Yahoo! Finance User - Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 3:56PM ET  Report Abuse

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    You can find this in a Dale Carnegie´s book.

  • Corina - Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 3:39PM ET  Report Abuse

    • Overall: 5/5

    Ben Stein has given a wonderful road map to making a good impression with other people. Listening is 85% of a conversation. Friends of Jackie Kennedy Onasis said that she was a good listener.

  • Susan - Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 2:19PM ET  Report Abuse

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    Excellent, concise, to the point and great advice. I don't generally believe in Ben's politics, but I do believe in this particular no-nonsense commentary. Good job, Ben. Young people do have problems with conversing. I would love to hear your comments on work ethics in the retail world. People just don't seem to want to "work". I am 53 years old, started working at a truck farm at age 11 for $1.10 an hour and absolutely loved being able to work 48 hours a week. I have been with my present company for nearly 30 years and barely gross $32,000. Yet, I love my job, and will be here until I am unable. How come so many young people complain about earning so little money, yet refuse to put in the time? I've been in retail so many years that I know when overtime is offered, then refused--"it's not MY job...." then those hours are tacked on to the manager. Bottom line is they just don't care. And, how do we make them care, or want to care? Any answers, Ben?

  • Yahoo! Finance User - Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 1:54PM ET  Report Abuse

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    more people should read this especially bosses!

  • Yahoo! Finance User - Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 1:46PM ET  Report Abuse

    • Overall: 5/5

    The idea is to get the concept of what is being said and the concept is great. Don't read into it to much because you will confuse yourself. Good job Mr. Stein.

  • Yahoo! Finance User - Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 1:45PM ET  Report Abuse

    • Overall: 4/5

    Helpful and precise. So is Ben Stein.

  • Angie - Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 1:39PM ET  Report Abuse

    • Overall: 5/5

    These are ecellent tips especially to people who are shy and sometimes get lost along the way when talking to people. Thanks.

  • Yahoo! Finance User - Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 1:13PM ET  Report Abuse

    • Overall: 2/5

    The comment he wrote about how nice her hair looks or how nice her suit looks? We took sexual harassment training where I work. Although, people like to be complimented this could also be taken the wrong way. This just doesn't sound very professional, but I just probably need my head checked?

  • EILEEN - Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 1:06PM ET  Report Abuse

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    What if you have to regularly smile and shake hands with someone who is, for example, a big-time racist or dishonest? Do you ignore him or look for another job?

  • Yahoo! Finance User - Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 12:52PM ET  Report Abuse

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    Awsome, this is just what I needed, i graduate in a month or so and am going on to Business School so. Bens the man!

  • Tessa - Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 12:44PM ET  Report Abuse

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    This is great...however my Grandmother always taught me never to discuss politics and religion as they get you into a fight faster than anything. And I have found she is right and so is Ben

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