here's a good thread for reminiscing the 2 million lie. anyone want to translate that korean entry below?
uh huh...sure...legit? wpcentral is a joke. I think everyone just believed all the lies and the suckers on this mb kept spreading them.
here you go planet...it was jblivebetter who pumped all those websites. I think he has since left and now pumps AMD or something. WPcentral and more. Just search his postings and you will find he helped with the 2million sold cake lie.
always something to cause the market to tank from the mid 16k level. I am afraid this is the prelude to the "BIG ONE" predicted to come soon. I will get back in soon then after all the announcements, sit in cash and wait a few months on the side. Don't take chances this year. Too much funny stuff going on in the markets now. Wait for the readjustment.
yup, has zero bearing on Nokia at this point. Good luck MS in your new venture. Hope it works out for them after the low-ball offer they gave shareholders.
Yes remember well...what a joke...JBPUMPbetter or whatever that was pumped it up hard using the 3 paid pumping websites. don't remember off-hand the websites but it was well pumped on those sites and I warned everyone not to visit them because that was a ploy for the websites to receive money with every new click. Who remembers the websites jbpumperbetter was pumping?
It is ridiculous. Everything is making the markets jitter. If it's not another country it's the debt ceiling or something else going on at home.
If I were the Godfather of the India mafia (i.e., a senior official in the tax department), here's what I would do -
1. Declare the Nokia India subsidiary in tax default and take control of the plant.
2. "Sell" the plant to a pal of mine for pennies on the dollar, and then the government of India, working with my pal, tells Microsoft that everyone would look very "kindly" on Microsoft if Microsoft used that plant as a contract producer of Microsoft products, just as Apple uses contract producers. (The government of India, and my pal, would make it clear to Microsoft that failure to "hire" that plant would result in increasing "problems" with future Microsoft operations and sales in India, a valuable market for Microsoft.
3. Last, about 18 months after the plant starts producing for Microsoft, my pal who owns the plant will discover some contractual/production " issues" that will require the plant to change the terms of the production contract in such a way that it will cost Microsoft a lot more for what the plant produces....
That's what I would do if I were the Godfather of the India mafia, which apparently encompasses the large parts of the India tax and judicial systems....
Nokia is small potatoes. Microsoft is the big kahuna.....
Yep that can't end soon enough. It's issue after issue lately making the markets jittery. My feeling is once spring hits things will calm down. We'll see.
Nothing will ever surpass the joker who linked us the "2millionth cake" in china. That sure bit me in the arse.
Yeah, I read that, too. I don't really care. Microsoft is getting devices this month. I'm just worried about Russia/USA right now.
Nokia “weibo’d” that the Nokia X had received over a million pre-orders for the first Android powered Nokia phone, and indeed it had, but that doesn’t mean that Nokia will sell anywhere near that many of the new devices. The pre-orders, all coming to Chinese retailer JD.com’s website, only required that you log in to the very popular retailer’s site, and click on a pre-order button. There were no forms to fill out, and no payment required to secure a device.
On top of that, JD.com was running a contest offering a free Nokia X to one lucky winner chosen from the pre-orders, and customers could pre-order once… for each Nokia X color. The Nokia X will debut in China in black, white, and green, meaning that every person who wants to try to win (or even just rack up some impressive numbers) could pre-order up to 3 times, all for free with no obligation to actually purchase a phone.
(The red text can be roughly translated as “once preordered you will have chance to win a Nokia X for free”, according to our friend PicturePan2 from LiveSino.net).
The phone does sport an eye-opening price tag. 599 Chinese Yuan works out to be just a bit under $100 US. Not bad for a smartphone, and priced less than most comparable Android phones in China, according to PicturePan2.
While it is impressive that the Nokia X garnered so much attention, to expect the new device to sell anywhere near those million pre-orders is probably wishful thinking, at best.
More shenanigans in china. Just like the "cake" picture with 2 million written on it. Remember that e2??? Who was the joker who posted that one. That sure cost me.
In theory, the Windows eco-system is potentially far more attractive value proposition to consumers than Android, so Elop's decision to go with Windows/MSFT was reasonable.
Two key words in that prior sentence - "theory", and "potentially".
To date, MSFT has shown minimally acceptable execution of a good strategy. It has taken far too long to produce a user-friendly, feature-rich OS for all platforms, and it has failed to produce a "light" version of Windows for entry-level, low cost platforms (with reduced capabilities) - features phones, and basic tablets.
MSFT and Nokia focused too much on trying to out iPhone the iPhone. There's a huge market out there for entry-level phones and phablets and tablets. It's a mystery to me why MSFT has not pursued this market with more focus, leaving it to Android and Samsung.
It's not too late for MSFT to catch-up - the next 18 months will tell the tale.
If the Windows eco-system can be used on platforms at low cost/entry level prices, and these devices sell in volume, then Nokia/HERE will benefit. An important enabler is reduced prices on processors, and I think we'll see margins on those shrink in the next year, expanding the market for hand-held devices on the global market..
In theory, on paper, going with the Windows eco-system was a reasonable decision for Nokia. In retrospect, given MSFT's poor execution, Nokia might have done better producing both Android and Windows, but keep in mind MSFT was paying Nokia a pile of money for Nokia producing Windows phones exclusively.
Oh well - take two salt pills and drive-on.....