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  • Reply to

    any questions?

    by kenjoe34 10 hours ago

    We agree with the commentator, "not", who answers the hostile heckler and DuPont Company representative, "notthatblind".

    The overriding reason barring photography by regular employees seeking to protect themselves and their co-workers from danger in DuPont's run-down deathtrap plants is to prevent documentation of workplace SHAM Safety and to fortify DuPont Management callous cover-ups. The DuPont Management anti-picture rule also aids in Management's charade of Blaming-the-Victim for legal and PR purposes. Absolutely disgusting! ...funfun..

  • Reply to

    any questions?

    by kenjoe34 10 hours ago

    Boy she never gets anything right!!
    So before you reply, read and address what's here, nothing else.
    It would be "wise" to listen to Tim.

    Let's start with the case of the deaths at LaPorte. Both the CSB and OSHA found severe, willful and repeat violations at DuPont. You can read portions at both reports at CSB and OSHA. For OSHA . first inspection number is 1008319 and second is 1019650.

    Here are the comments from OSHA:
    "but these four PREVENTABLE workplace deaths and the very serious hazards we uncovered at this facility are evidence of a failed safety program,"

    Notice the preventable part.

    If DuPont had been following good PSM and PHA protocol then these deaths could have been prevented. I am pretty sure that ventilation fans in a area that handled toxic chemicals would have been PSM critical. Citation 1 Item 5 and Citation 1 Item 6 a

    I am also certain that having no procedures for handling the frequent plugs was not good safety protocol. If you violate a procedure at most DuPont sites you would be fired, There were no procedure, read the reports.
    Management of Change another PSM element apparently wasn't addressed either. Citation 1 Item 3

    How about failure to train operators in hazards, in this case respiratory hazards. See Citation 1 Item 7
    Well save some space for the others:
    Citation 1 Item 9 a Exposure to MM at 10PPM
    Citation 2 Item 1 Lack of training in process and procedures
    Citation 1 Item 2 a PHA did not control the hazards.
    Citation 1 Item 1 No PID's
    Citation 1 Item 2 b Engineering and admin. controls.

    I will call you out for blame the worker mentality as will NCOSH, the unions representing the site,the UE union and countless others. Bottom line get rid of behavior based safety.

    As for the worker why wouldn't you want to take pictures? Rule or not, If you saw the pictures (apparently you did not) you would see there were violations of even DuPont's lab protocol S26A. So that employee WAS looking out for her own safety, by reporting it.

  • Reply to

    any questions?

    by kenjoe34 10 hours ago

    Readers, be aware of the fact the heckler below with the moniker, "notthatblind", has repeatedly and proudly identified herself earlier as a bonus-paid DuPont employee working in DuPont AG. As an abusive CYBER-BULLY, she has threatened and harassed the undersigned and other independently-speaking investors with, no exaggeration, hundreds of sleazy, unprofessional personal attacks. Such is the vile culture of DuPont Management and her superiors, who either tacitly or expressly approve of her speaking out publicly on critical Company matters.

    You know the growing DuPont Teflon Toxin Scandal is a real financial threat to DD and CC shareholders when admitted DuPont Company representatives take to the internet launching distracting personal attacks and trying frantically to suppress free and open discussion! DuPont is one corrupt operation.

    Notice this PR shill for DuPont Management puts forth absolutely nothing in the way of evidence or facts to disprove anything advanced in the Huffington Post exposure. Instead she implies the undersigned could be hit with a financially crippling libel lawsuit for "lies". What she cluelessly demonstrates is the ranks of DuPont are chock full of unethical trash who will do anything at any cost to cover up and deceive. And that grim reality does not redound to the benefit of shareholders.

    ...funfun..

  • Reply to

    any questions?

    by kenjoe34 10 hours ago

    Bravo, funfundvierzig. Give yourself a big round of applause while the rest of us ask ourselves why you would post "scores" (your words) of your thoughtful posts on a newspaper site you consider a puppet press for DD.

    There is a pattern there, where you praise newspapers, reporters and journalists for being insightful, etc. That is, until they get tired of your inflammatory, insulting, and half truth style of posts and decide to remove you and your #$%$ or change their system where you can no longer be anonymous. And then all of a sudden they are agents of DD, puppet press, etc.

    Instead of complaining about having your posts removed, you should be thanking them. They may be trying to protect themselves (and therefore you) from an eventual lawsuit for the outrageous lies you sometimes post. Consider your recent comparison of a convenient store murders to the deaths of workers in Texas. Or the firing of that worker for "whistleblowing". In both cases the employees did things wrong also. DD has regulations that you can't take photographs in their buildings without permission. And going into a dangerous type of chemical room at any time without breathing protection would not be allowed no matter what corporation you work for. And as an employee, who would want to or even be forced to?

    But do keep up the #$%$. DD had violations, I agree. But you are so one sided it is pitiful. Keep up the narrow minded postings. Be sure to try to call me out for blaming the victims....No, just pointing out that employees have to be responsible for their own safety as well as DD has to protect its employees. Spin, funfundvierzig and aliases, spin!!!

  • Reply to

    any questions?

    by kenjoe34 10 hours ago

    In shocking detail, this expose published by the Huffington Post graphically shows the conspiracy and cover-up for decades of DuPont Management and their extraordinarily toxic, cancer-causing Teflon chemical, C8. How many hapless women and men will suffer excruciatingly painful illness and death because of DuPont's dirty-playing bosses who have been lining their own pockets with Teflon-fueled bonuses for years?

    As an aside, we have been commenting and opining for well over a decade on the DuPont Teflon Toxin Scandal at various news and investor sites. We have been systematically harassed and threatened by operatives, some of whom openly identified themselves as employee/agents of DuPont! Last year without explanation or warning, the editors of the puppet press for DuPont Management, The Parkersburg Sentinel & News, in one fell swoop deleted, CENSORED scores of our thoughtful comments. Protecting their model corporate citizen, the DuPont Company, we suppose! Never mind 100,000 residents in the greater Parkersburg area for years and years had been unsuspectingly drinking water from their home taps poisoned with DuPont's vile body-accumulating, man-made Teflon toxin!

    We perfervidly hope justice is achieved in some measure for the thousands of sick victims in the U. S. District Court, Southern Ohio.

    funfundvierzig...funfun..

  • huffington post:
    http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/welcome-to-beautiful-parkersburg/

  • Reply to

    buy on weakness

    by savesomeenergy Aug 27, 2015 1:03 AM

    DD is a shriveled up old maid posing as a bride looking for a groom (Peltz). Since Peltz is attracted to garbage (Kraft,Nabisco, DD) he should consider Waste Management, (WM) which poses decent profits & so so dividend.

  • Reply to

    buy on weakness

    by savesomeenergy Aug 27, 2015 1:03 AM

    Glad you're here today.
    Stop posting on company time? Heard you got in trouble!

    Bring the car around! Do you need a lift ?
    Heard you were parking for he Grand Opening Red Carpet Gala at CRP and Nelson was a guest of honor.

    Be careful with the finishes, you scratched some yesterday!

    Lay off the homophobic references, Ellen doesn't like that, it does not fit her core values.

    Stay away from the shelves, remember line of fire and mind on task.

  • Reply to

    buy on weakness

    by savesomeenergy Aug 27, 2015 1:03 AM

    So what is it, Dr. Fun?

    Should Mr. Peltz sell or keep his shares or buy more?

    Surely an astute investor who was dumped by DuPont 13 years ago and who has the time to analyze the situation should know?

    And who is Mr. PETLZ anyway? Did you drunkenly post this at this early of an hour?

    Inquiring investors would like to know.

    And have a gay day.

  • Reply to

    buy on weakness

    by savesomeenergy Aug 27, 2015 1:03 AM

    Nelson Peltz and his research wonks at Trian must surely know a lot more about this decaying and secretive conglomerate today, August 2015, than they did two years ago, August 2013. If Mr. Petlz, likely drenched in red ink on his pig-in-a poke investment in DuPont and Shamours, decides to bail out of all or part of his position, the announcement will shake things up. Look for the cliff-dive to deepen, down, d o w n, Down, DOWN, D O W N..

    The business-senseless DuPont Chieftess, Ellen J. Kullman and her obedient home-schooled student Shamours President and CEO, Mark Verguano, and their tired marginal TEAM of equally business-senseless under-bosses, seem to have nothing going on to spark a serious reversal of DD and CC shares. Not even $4 billion in cash looted from Shamours to manipulate DD share price via buybacks is likely to make a sustainable difference.

    ...funfun..

  • Reply to

    buy on weakness

    by savesomeenergy Aug 27, 2015 1:03 AM

    DD may pop on news that Peltz is making another run for board seats but I don't see him saying anything publicly before 3rd quarter results are out.

    Near term there's no telling which direction DD will move. It could recover with the market for a bit. But q3 results are likely to be disappointing. They have cash to buy back shares to support the share price. But bad news is always a possibility with DD.

    I think there are more interesting investment alternatives. In the short term this one is too much of a coin flip. If it makes another strong move up or down I may be interested in playing a subsequent move in the opposite direction. Low $50's feels about right. There are reasons for it to move lower... but as you suggest the reappearance of Peltz might generate some enthusiasm.

    There is also the possibility that he walks away.

    In any case, it's not so much about Peltz. The issue is really whether DD continues to managed by Kullman and team (bearish) or whether someone comes in and cleans house, essentially breaking up the company (bullish).

  • DD has been pounded since activist investor was rejected. I think now with the stock down 24 points, he will have more support if he makes another run. Could make for good upside.

    Sentiment: Buy

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  • Reply to

    management on the move

    by sputnick_again Aug 26, 2015 9:20 AM

    re-assigning management and giving them a new title entitles them to a 15 to 20 % pay increase. Employees for DD how much was your pay increase this year.

  • Reply to

    management on the move

    by sputnick_again Aug 26, 2015 9:20 AM
    donkey_see_donkey_doo donkey_see_donkey_doo Aug 26, 2015 12:33 PM Flag

    The term - "rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic" gives a perfect visual....

  • Reply to

    Issues at DuPont LaPorte Again!

    by severe_violator Aug 26, 2015 11:22 AM

    Readers, if a couple of members of the criminal class had donned hoodies and invaded a local convenience store and gas station at gun-point for robbery, and shot and killed four employees, they would have been arrested and likely sent to the slammer for decades, if not put on death row in Texas. Convicted criminals.

    If DuPont Managers and executives run a dangerous deathtrap factory, and knowingly ignore lethal dangers screaming for remediation, they get off scot-free with a few paltry fines paid by the Company. And DuPont Management whines they are "disappointed" and challenge the fines??

    How are these consummately arrogant and abusive DuPont Managers and executives different from the murderers at the convenience store? Oh, DuPont bosses pay themselves fat bonuses on all the profits they make by deferring critical maintenance and running a SHAM Safety racket to save money.

    In our opinion, they should be investigated for possible criminal negligence!

    funfundvierzig...funfun..

  • Well, your post makes me sorry that I didn't buy MON puts along with my DD puts but it changes nothing regarding DD's recent developments and results or their future prospects.

    The big question is where will the revenue and earnings growth Kullman talked about come from? Perhaps from the ag businesses in the longer term. But all of DuPont's business units are still saddled with the ineffective and costly DuPont corporate bureaucracy. As painful as Kullman's trimming around the edges is for the employees impacted by it - this trimming isn't going to solve DD's problems. Peltz had the right idea... breaking up the company is the quickest and cleanest way to get rid of the bloat. I suspect it will still happen within the next 5 years but the longer the corporate structure remains in place the greater the damage done to the businesses that make up DuPont.

  • A former DuPont lab technician at LaPorte is suing the company for wrongful termination. The technician filed the complaint in Harris County District Court and stated she was terminated for reporting safety violations.

    The claim is being brought under the Texas Whistleblowers Act, Texas Government Code 554.001 and the Texas Labor Code for wrongful termination,

    She had previously worked for the Shell Corporation and was a safety advocate for Shell. She was awarded a Special Recognition Award for "enhancing the Total Safety Culture" while with the company.

    While at Shell she was encouraged to be proactive about safety. This was not the case with DuPont, as the petition states:
    "Contrary to its representation as being a safety leader, DuPont in reality discouraged safety awareness and safety reporting."

    She tried to raise safety concerns with the Plant Manager via e-mail and regarding this the petition states:
    "Plaintiff was immediately called to a meeting....and instructed to NEVER put safety issues in an email."

    She then used another method to try and get issues addressed. She used a company portal to Report An Issue to file a complaint.
    The petition states she had complained of:
    "Excessive storage, ventilation hazards, storage hazards, failure to audit chemicals, inhalation hazard and potential for catastrophic fire."

    She took pictures of the lab and its condition and under the Health and Safety Hazard Communication Act section 502.007(b) employees are not required to work with unlabeled chemicals.

    LaPorte was the site of the death of four workers exposed to methyl mercaptan. OSHA found Serious, Willful and Repeat violations during an inspection. The company was placed in the Severe Violators Program which is a Who's Who of the worst violators of OSHA guidelines.

    DuPont is "disappointed" with being placed in the program.

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