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    just curious how HAIN became a healthy choice

    by spirallocks Mar 27, 2015 7:22 AM

    Kraft and KCD didn't have organic?

    you gest

    for the mentally challenged
    MCD was putting tomato's on their burgers before the revolution of non- organic

    Kraft foods started in 1903

    might want to get educated

    not surprised you like Greek ....LOL

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    just curious how HAIN became a healthy choice

    by spirallocks Mar 27, 2015 7:22 AM

    You may want to check out the May 2015 issue of Consumer Reports.
    Cover: How to Eat Clean & Live Healthy" "The Best Supermarkets in America"
    Speaking of supermarkets, as sno noted, instead of picking which supermarket is the best investment a la natural/organic theme, why not buy the arms dealers? Your buddy Jim has said the same.
    Class action? I say opinion.
    While HAIN offers "A healthy way of life", what do you think of WFM's rather bold "America's Healthiest Grocery Store" claim?

    Have a delightful day!

  • Reply to

    just curious how HAIN became a healthy choice

    by spirallocks Mar 27, 2015 7:22 AM

    "a fad for the rich that are to stupid to grow a tomato
    to stupid to know what healthy is"
    I'm always humored when a poster is pounding his/her chest and "suggesting" that they are smart and then they post "to stupid" and "to stupid" Thanks for the laugh.

    "do you know Kraft has organic , Mcd has organic "
    Did you know that before KFT and MCD had "organic", they didn't? But now they do? I'd think this would make you want to rethink your "fad" argument. Seems like the organic/natural movement is gaining traction now that MANY of the big boys have started to embrace organic/natural. Customers want organic/natural and producers are responding. I'm sure you saw MCD's recent announcement re the chicken they WILL be serving. Pretty big deal IMO. You see, more and more people prefer to ingest food that has fewer ingredients.
    Does this lead to "a healthy way of life"? Yes, no, maybe. All I care about is perception and HAIN's products are perceived as being better than conventional offerings. Can you say Terra Chips?
    I sampled WFM's cheese puffs last night. While this product is much cheaper per ounce than HAIN's version, the product is sub par compared to HAIN's. AND...for those who wish to ingest organic (for what ever reason) WFM's product is not organic while HAIN's is. Yes, HAIN's products are more expensive. Being long the company I like the higher margins.

    Lots of people like to grow their own vegetables. Problem is: it's difficult to grow tomatoes in frozen ground.

    You say BS, I say better tasting food with less additives.
    There is one product that I am aware of that HAIN offers that is BS: Greek Gods "Greek STYLE" yogurt. Somehow this acquisition has been a success. Somewhat proves that a lot of consumers are clueless, but heck, if they're making permanent changes to their food buying habits and purchasing more of HAIN's products, it's a good thing.

  • Reply to

    just curious how HAIN became a healthy choice

    by spirallocks Mar 27, 2015 7:22 AM

    i don't watch cramer...you should stop watching so much tv, it makes you fat, opinionated and ignorant like the face bookers...

  • Reply to

    just curious how HAIN became a healthy choice

    by spirallocks Mar 27, 2015 7:22 AM

    did you see Cramer on organic
    he said poor people can afford it , he is truly amazing isn't he
    any Idiot should know poor people already have it , they grow their own veggies , and do it organic

    this is not rocket science , although some seem to think it is

    a fad for the rich that are to stupid to grow a tomato
    to stupid to know what healthy is , Kind of like Cramer
    at some point this false advertising of being healthy will bite them with a class action of massive proportions

    do you know Kraft has organic , Mcd has organic

    nothing wrong with organic , natural , etc
    what is wrong is false advertising.....and that they do !!!!!

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    just curious how HAIN became a healthy choice

    by spirallocks Mar 27, 2015 7:22 AM

    yeah,we get that...back in the day people ate organic, walked to school uphill, both ways, drank from the garden house and lived to tell about it, etc etc etc...well, they don't anymore, they're fat, lazy and sit on their phones all day...oh, and there is lots of borderline fake food and chemicals in food today, so whether its based on ignorance, marketing, whatever, people will chase what they believe to be a healthier choice. fad? I heard the same argument in 2005. So place your bets.You seem to be that everyone is going to go back to living off the land and eating organic out of their yards, ditch technology and start playing outside again. me? that people are going to continue to "buy" the fad for the foreseeable future.

  • Reply to

    just curious how HAIN became a healthy choice

    by spirallocks Mar 27, 2015 7:22 AM

    are you saying that HAINS is no healthier than McDee's ?
    you would be correct if that is what you are saying
    health issue is an exercise issue , with any food in moderation

    HAIN sells B/S based on ignorance
    it is a fad like Bell bottoms that will come and go

    for you little whipper snappers that don't know anything , back in a day, everybody used to eat organic
    "everybody ate organic"
    we did not have all the technologies and techniques of today

    maybe if the younger generation can stop Facebooking, tweeting, texting, and get off their fat ace , walk down to a library , 2 things will happen

    they will get exercise , and learn that HAIN is selling ignorance that is no healthier than McDee's

    did I mention over priced as well ?

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    Chart looks good

    by dividendseeker Mar 23, 2015 6:15 PM

    Getting to the stock, is it expensive? Seems to be a tad, but there's an additional premium being added to HAIN--a possible buy out premium. Next Q, if HAIN announces sub par results, shares will get hit. But even if that occurs, the long term trend is very positive.
    Irwin and co. has been very adept with acquisitions...expect an acquisition announcement in the near future.

  • Reply to

    Chart looks good

    by dividendseeker Mar 23, 2015 6:15 PM

    "...it's whether or not the consumer thinks it is..."
    BINGO!
    I tried to explain this to the "healthier" poster on another board. It's all about perception. Please note this poster misquoted HAIN's motto; it's "A Healthy Way of Life" Now in HAIN's case, I believe that a lot of their products are "healthy". But isn't "healthy" rather subjective? Heck the bar is not that high relative to the conventional food offerings. The other poster chose to compare beef ravioli with MCD fries--rather odd, no?. 280 mg of sodium is LOW. He should check out other frozen beef ravioli products, the ones with hundreds, if not over 1,000, mgs of sodium per serving. Or compare Garden of Eatin's baked cheddar puffs with baked cheddar cheetos; the later has more sodium. How about HAIN's H & B products? HAIN offers shampoo without some of the nasty chemicals in other US brands; chemicals that are banned in Europe. HAIN shampoo doesn't have any formaldehyde while some US brands do. Does the absence of these ingredients make HAIN's shampoos "healthy"? Perception is what counts; check out HAIN's SALES . Most of HAIN's food products are organic and hence GMO free. Does that make these products "healthy"? Who knows, but there is a growing number of consumers seeking such products. Dare I call this a trend? We've all heard the "fad" argument for years. I do not believe people trying to take better care of themselves is a trend. Eating well is just an extension of taking better care of oneself. Forty years ago, there were hardly any fitness centers (but there were YMCAs!) The shift to taking better care of oneself has been evolving for YEARS. I do not believe this is a fad.

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    Chart looks good

    by dividendseeker Mar 23, 2015 6:15 PM

    You see a fad, we see a fundamental change to the way society eats. I think HAIN and WWAV will be the future while companies like KO, KRFT and GIS will continue to become obsolete. Just like MCD is getting killed by CMG, PNRA and other healthy eating restaurants.

  • Reply to

    Chart looks good

    by dividendseeker Mar 23, 2015 6:15 PM

    "debbie downer"
    is that your professional analysis for the stock?

    I guess this is what you talk about when you don't know anything relevant to the stock ,
    their sales are not that great to be everywhere , and their earnings sure as h e l l are not there

    dividendseeker
    I don't worry about salt , I am not the one lying to the public ,
    they need to worry about all the salmonella they have been selling

    that always seems to pick up with this "organic "
    funny how that works

    this is a fad that will pass , half this garbage they sell is not even close to being healthy

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    Chart looks good

    by dividendseeker Mar 23, 2015 6:15 PM

    He worries about salt when half of KRFT and other companies have all kinds of toxic chemicals in their products. I think if salt is the worst thing he has on HAIN we are doing great lol.

  • Reply to

    Chart looks good

    by dividendseeker Mar 23, 2015 6:15 PM

    what makes this a great company? the fact that this company is everywhere re: the healthy eating trend...you don't have to "guess" which one company will outperform (SFM, FWM, WFM,TFM, KR, WMT, ETC ETC ETC) you get them ALL with HAIN. Whether or not it's truly healthy isn't the question, it's whether or not the consumer thinks it is...stop being such a debbie downer about the "healthy lifestyle" trend and go put on some yoga pants and give me 20.

  • Reply to

    just curious how HAIN became a healthy choice

    by spirallocks Mar 27, 2015 7:22 AM

    what's wrong with sodium? it's an electrolyte...if you're going to compare ingredients, why not mention the other 18 in a mcd french fry...you're not the brightest bulb on the tree spur, so we all get your curiosity...

  • HAIN sells Rossetta Beef Ravioli , with only 280 mg of sodium ( some of that pre-made frozen stuff)
    (McDonald's French Fries 221 mg sodium)
    P/E of 50 on a fad that may be misrepresented ?

    are they really healthier is the question ?

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Chart looks good

    by dividendseeker Mar 23, 2015 6:15 PM

    oh, I didn't know if that was the deal
    what do you think about all that sodium in those pre-made frozen dinners HAIN sells ?

    were exactly is the health benefit is what I am asking I guess

  • Reply to

    Chart looks good

    by dividendseeker Mar 23, 2015 6:15 PM

    No you answered your own question. Healthy eating is the future. People in this country are tired of being fat and unhealthy. Companies like HAIN and WWAV are the GIS of the future.

  • Reply to

    Chart looks good

    by dividendseeker Mar 23, 2015 6:15 PM

    did I ask to complicated of a question ?

  • The Kraft Heinz merger was a shot across the bow as more and more consolidation in the food space, especially organic, will happen in 2015. I sincerely doubt that HAIN or WWAV, for that matter, will stay independent in 2015. In fact, my guess is they are both acquired by the end of Q2. That being said, either buy some longer dated calls or put the common away in a drawer for your kids.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    Chart looks good

    by dividendseeker Mar 23, 2015 6:15 PM

    Exactly.

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