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  • Hoping for another good quarter to start the new year. I know in MN market our weather was very bad for many days but still hoping for decent numbers. Hope for good carbon credit profits during 1st qtr. Better yet future carbon credit profits. Looks like anual meeting is first part of May. Have a nice day.

  • Reply to

    Found article on ARCI - PennyStocksWeekly

    by dalewithers226 Mar 18, 2014 10:56 PM

    Message Board SPAM!

    Just click the poster's ID and you'll see dozens of posts, exactly the same but for the trading symbol.

    Way to go, yahoo. PennyStocksWeekly pays bribes and kickbacks, right? Really serves your readers' interests well, don't it? Kills your credibility, too. And you wonder why you've lost so many site visitors?

    SPLF

    Sentiment: Buy

  • Reply to

    someone wanted in this am

    by magilla_s Mar 6, 2014 9:43 AM

    I agree and its cheap. Noticed three insiders got 70K shares they have options to buy at $3 per share. Nice incentive to get it to much higher price! My guess is the weather issues in both Minneapolis and Atlanta market will offset profits a little bit and somebody is selling because of it. I think they will still have a better 1st quarter than last year. Time will tell. I know the one msg board person thinks big share games are being played and I would have to agree seems like a lot of 100 shares trades that really don't make sense. Have a nice day.

  • nice pop on big volume (for arci) at 9:45am

  • So you think all this comes from someone or some entity wanting to sell their shares, huh?
    Really?
    If that were true, then they've got to be the absolute dumbest ghit on the planet and in the entire history of the planet nor do they seem to learn from their repeated trials.
    If someone or thing were trying to sell their shares, and as you allege they are the same ones behind the persistent walking down of the share price in 100, 200, 300 share increments, then what is their motivation for your alleged desire to sell them at a lower price? That is the effect of that repeatedly low-volume walk down in price.
    This tactic doesn't even work if the one doing the selling is aiming to sell lots of shares short. Those "sellers" would only want a HIGHER price.
    It only works if the shares being walked down are the ploy to trigger OTHERS to sell and do so at a much lower price than what it was BEFORE the walk down.

    Examine the evidence.

    Ask yourselves if I deceive, lie, obfuscate, distort or in any other way attempting to corrupt the system, the markets, stocks, or this stock or the company it represents?

    Over the last thirty-five years, people in this country have been lied to. They have been deceived into thinking the markets in this country are honest, regulated, enforced and worth the risk. Ask yourselves if everyone in the markets must play by the same rules and that those rules, regulations and laws governing these markets are subject to the same enforcement for everyone?

    We're talking about the only avenue left for the great majority to prepare for their future.
    For all intents and purposes, there are no more pensions. There are no more unions and the legacy unions and pensions are being undercut as we speak by the pro-mega-corporations, the bankers and their lackeys in government, the media, and pretty much all the other institutions including education, religious, social, financial, military, health, etc. And they neither show nor have mercy.

    SPLF

    Sentiment: Buy

  • Reply to

    And is anyone surprised?

    by spixleatedlifeform Feb 27, 2014 1:48 PM

    Not in the least.
    The manipulation comes when the price drops repeatedly in 100, 200, 300 share increments, EXACTLY AS IT HAS IN THIS STOCK OVER AND OVER AGAIN! It continues to occur until stop loss settings are triggered which adds to the selling pressure.
    What you are doing is being obtuse and misconstruing my words. I think you are doing it deliberately.
    Who are you really working for?
    Does anyone notice you refuse to directly address the issues? Typical of your ilk.
    A purveyor of Fear. Uncertainty. Doubt. FUD.
    An apologist and obfuscator of illegal activity.
    Under these circumstances, NO stock is traded honestly.
    It becomes an unregulated gambling casino whose only winners are the casino and its operatives.
    Apparently, that's your goal, too.

    SPLF

    Sentiment: Buy

  • Reply to

    earnings

    by mm5002003 Mar 4, 2014 12:56 PM

    At first glance that would in theory be what you would think, but it is incorrect, as part of the gain was offset by a $500K tax provision (see the conference call notes and the income statement for the full amount of the allowance) .

    The correct way to look at this actually is simply to look at their operating income, minus interest, plus apply some normalized tax rate to get the pro forma earnings. When I do that I get around $0.10 to $0.12 in earnings for the quarter. This is something management should have calculated in the release, but they didn't. They don't care much about shareholders at this company, which is why the valuation is so low. Actually the valuation is kind of ridiculous. For the year, I calculate nearly $0.50 per share in earnings. The stock should be trading at around $5. Problem is that management is very poor and they are clueless on how to create shareholder value.

  • Reply to

    earnings

    by mm5002003 Mar 4, 2014 12:56 PM

    Yeah, but htey also took a $700,000 charge in the Appliance Smart sales division so you need to balance that against the positive $1.2MM.

  • still, backing out the .21 tax benefit eps for the year would be .37 giving a pe of 8 @ $3 a share. seems cheap for a co growing eps

  • the following is from the earnings report ...."Benefitted from the release of an income tax valuation allowance, the noncash accounting impact of which was to increase earnings by $1.2 million, or $0.21 per diluted share." so does everyone agree that without this earnings for the quarter would be 0, since earnings for the 4q were $.21 including this tax benefit.

  • Reply to

    And is anyone surprised?

    by spixleatedlifeform Feb 27, 2014 1:48 PM

    Under your theory

    Any seller = Conspirator

    Priceless

  • Reply to

    And is anyone surprised?

    by spixleatedlifeform Feb 27, 2014 1:48 PM

    Crimony!
    You really are not paying attention.
    Still going on?
    Absolutely!
    What part of the month is it? Hmmm?
    These manipulators are walking the price DOWN, 100, 200, 300 shorted shares at a time.
    Are you blind?
    What do you suppose this does?
    IT LOWERS THE PRICE (read: market value) OF EVERY SHARE, INCLUDING THOSE NOT BEING TRADED.
    The purpose is to trigger as many stop losses as they can, below their price threshold. It wears out the typical investor. These t#rds want the shareholders to be willing to accept whatever pittance they eventually offer.
    Where have you been the last thirteen years?
    What are stop losses? Do I really need to address this?
    Look it up in Investopedia. or perhaps you've actually bought the latest edition of "Wall Street Words" by David L. Scott.
    I suggest you invest a whole twelve bucks and learn something, AND THEN START PAYING ATTENTION.

    SPLF

    Sentiment: Buy

  • Reply to

    And is anyone surprised?

    by spixleatedlifeform Feb 27, 2014 1:48 PM

    Still manipulation going on? Contiued selling into March. Face it, your conspiracy theory is bogus!

  • Reply to

    And is anyone surprised?

    by spixleatedlifeform Feb 27, 2014 1:48 PM

    Well, interesting how an hour and fifty minutes changes things, ain't it? Down another $0.07?

    No, there's no manipulation going on in THIS stock.

    Alfred E. Newman would be so proud!

    SPLF

    Sentiment: Buy

  • Well, here we are, right back at $3.00 per share.

    As though NOTHING happened the last two days.

    Are my critics going to suddenly claim it's nothing less than "Efficient Market Hypothesis" demonstrating its broken-clock accuracy?

    Really?

    So that increase in revenue, the rise in offsets' values as well as the rise in actual offsets to the company only mean same old, same old? Are you going to contend the previous hovering at the $3.00 pricing was NOT being an accurate expression of Efficient Market Hypothesis? If so, then why bother filing quarterly or annual reports at all?

    Gee, got rid of Glass -Steagall, might as well get rid of the requirement of those pesky quarterly and annual reports, too, eh?

    Gut the regulatory and enforcement budgets under the guise of balancing the budget, get rid of all those nosy regulatory and enforcement personnel, let the lords and masters of Wall Street and corporate America have their way all around. Why, sure. Who are we to complain? Aren't we all here at their largesse?

    I said before and I'll repeat it again--SOMEONE WANTS THIS COMPANY ON THE CHEAP AND THEY'LL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET IT except pay a fair value. Three dollars a share is the target and that's all they'll allow it to be. Period!

    That's called manipulation.

    SPLF

    Sentiment: Buy

  • Reply to

    It's that time of the month again.

    by spixleatedlifeform Feb 25, 2014 4:05 PM

    What makes you think this way?
    Why do you think I am in some kind of hate mode TOWARD THE COMPANY? The way you pose your statement you seem to think I have a hate going on for the company.
    You had the same pose the last time, too.
    I told you then and I'll repeat myself now--I HAVE OWNED THIS STOCK FOR NEARLY TEN YEARS. I followed it for over three years prior to my first purchase of shares. I AGREE WITH ITS PREMISE, IN BOTH ACTIVITIES, RETAIL AND RECYCLING. I've visited its ApplianceSmart outlets. (Have you?)
    Why do you think I am otherwise?
    Why do you insist my concern is with something inside the company.

    IT IS NOT!

    What's going on is entirely OUTSIDE the controls of the company or its management.

    It has everything to do with the way the market players, especially the major corporates--both the Banks and the multinationals as well as hedge funds and their even more damnable private equity fund cousins are permitted to operate. These manipulations are being conducted by and on behalf of THOSE entities, not by, of or for the company or its shareholders. The so-called regulators and enforcement bodies, both public AND private are the ones involved with ignoring these activities in spite of them being highly illegal at so many levels. Most of those involved with the actual suppression of any regulation or enforcement are holdovers from the previous administration who were pre-screened for their adherence to a certain political philosophy, not the laws, rules or regulations governing the conduct in the markets.

    Do I have hate? Absolutely. No question about it but it has nothing to do with the company or its shareholders or management. It is directed to those who have ulterior AND illegal intent and that intent is demonstrated blatantly in the trading record.

    Get over yourself and your misdirection of MY intentions or mood.

    SPLF

    Sentiment: Buy

  • Reply to

    It's that time of the month again.

    by spixleatedlifeform Feb 25, 2014 4:05 PM

    Dude, you really need to stop the hate. I'm not sure what has caused you to see evil lurking around every corner, but there are people you can talk to that will help you get over these issues. Start with a little exercise and change of diet. It's just not worth it to spend your whole life convinced that everyone is conspiring against you.

    As for good news, if you spent any time listening to the conference call you will understand that this Company has turned the corner on monetizing the carbon offsets they generate (it will be over $1.5MM this year) as well as establishing a business model of working with utilities and multi-family residential units for replacement of old inefficient refrigerators.

    Do yourself a favor and just let go of the hate.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    It's that time of the month again.

    by spixleatedlifeform Feb 25, 2014 4:05 PM

    Good news, huh?
    And express the timing of that good news so we can all agree.
    Then please tell us exactly when the prices shot up, when the Conference Call and its content happened, precisely, if you will?
    If you can?
    If the buying occurred before either, what then? Buying causes the price to rise.
    Check out the timing of the peak. The drop. The volumes of both.
    Then tell us all about how someone decided to sell a 100,00 share position.
    It may appear to an idiot to be a chicken and egg thing but I assure you, on a detailed examination, the truth comes out.
    The buying happened because someone HAD to HIDE what they'd done over the previous two weeks. Having a sudden rise in short interest in just two weeks is a BIG RED FLAG. This is the only way to hide it.
    Furthermore, just how many shares got traded and when did they trade?
    Answer these or concede the point. The stock of ARCI IS being MANIPULATED and NOT to the benefit of the shareholders.

    And one more thing.

    If this was a good news selling, what explains all the other "last trade date for short interest report period" rises in price and volume, regardless of how any of them closed the day?
    How is it they always manage to coincide?

    SPLF

    Sentiment: Buy

  • Reply to

    It's that time of the month again.

    by spixleatedlifeform Feb 25, 2014 4:05 PM

    I don't agree. I think a institution used today's good earnings to get out of their position. Only way to get out of a 100,000 share posiiton in this stock without crushing the stock is to sell on a day when there is good news.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    Conference call

    by rural1962 Feb 25, 2014 11:39 AM

    Yes seems very weak today. They had ebitda of around $5M+ for 2013 and its market cap is $18M! Markets don't always make sense. I'm guessing people are scared they won't repeat the replacement program in 2014 but they do these programs all the time. They also like to hedge themselves and be careful with guiding expectations. I'm guessing book value is about $3 per share. I know book value has nothing to do with cash flow but worst case they have lots of assets to fall back on. So ebitda of about $1 per share and we trade at $3?? People must be really scared about the future. Have a nice day.

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