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  • Reply to

    Strong buy!

    by by_and_hold Aug 31, 2015 12:45 PM

    """ If the company is doing this, they are doing it to acquire shares over time without spiking the price or making the market maker rich. """

    This is how the narrative changes so easily. The buyback was presented as a positive because it would prop up the price and "break the shorts backs." When the first "good news" doesn't work, someone else comes up with some other "good news."

    I've seen this for 5 years. I think the starkest example was how the "wifi device" was going to be the "big thing." It was released without wifi. Suddenly people like Lionel and Elbit started saying, "you know... that's actually a *positive*. Wifi would create so many headaches. We've actually *won* through this 1-year waste of time."

    If you're long, your challenge will be to recognize when to go short -- because those chuckleheads who are all about manufacturing "good news" aren't going to help you. They never disclose when they've exited. (Which is why buy-and-hold is such a perfect example. He was a huge blowhard when it was $12-16. He made "five folds" without saying anything but "buy, buy, buy."

    Good luck. You're going to need it.

  • Reply to

    Strong buy!

    by by_and_hold Aug 31, 2015 12:45 PM

    "Nonetheless company allowed issuing, buying and selling options in both ways in order to raise cash and keeping biggest ownership stake to itself avoiding selling stock itself as many POS companies do diluting ownership of current shareholders. Nothing wrong playing both way using agreements but keeping liquidity untouched"
    Yes, by the way, we do not even know for sure that they are doing this. If they are, it is fine with me.

  • Reply to

    Strong buy!

    by by_and_hold Aug 31, 2015 12:45 PM

    daveinfl1: "However, it would not surprise me if this company itself is trading options, and/or buying back their stock by bidding under the asking price. If that's true, it does not make sense why you or anyone else would do that if you are a 'true' long-term investor. JMO"

    Dave, you are great contributor to this board, and a great source of information.
    It seems you might not get the nuances of options or the market in general and that is fine.
    It really does not make sense to me why anyone in there right mind would ever not bid under the asking price, much less the company.
    I am a long, many of my shares in this or other companies, were attained through the result of put options I have sold. If the stock does not fall under my put price, I just pocket the money. Why would I want to pay whatever market price is floating around, or bid at the ask, when I can potentially be given a discount to buy the stock at options expiration. If the company is doing this, they are doing it to acquire shares over time without spiking the price or making the market maker rich. It is stupid to buy at the ask and I am cheap. It does not diminish my conviction, (or the company conviction for that matter if they are doing this), to be long the stock.

  • Reply to

    Strong buy!

    by by_and_hold Aug 31, 2015 12:45 PM

    Dave,
    Answer is simple. You are investing in company future and you have to protect you equity in the same time. All way are good doing it. Company or registered shareholder has many limits using those protection. Nonetheless company allowed issuing, buying and selling options in both ways in order to raise cash and keeping biggest ownership stake to itself avoiding selling stock itself as many POS companies do diluting ownership of current shareholders. Nothing wrong playing both way using agreements but keeping liquidity untouched.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    Strong buy!

    by by_and_hold Aug 31, 2015 12:45 PM

    by_and_hold..that's your longest reply I can ever remember. I don't buy/sell options, even though I know many people do. Ping-pong. However, it would not surprise me if this company itself is trading options, and/or buying back their stock by bidding under the asking price. If that's true, it does not make sense why you or anyone else would do that if you are a 'true' long-term investor. JMO

  • Reply to

    Strong buy!

    by by_and_hold Aug 31, 2015 12:45 PM

    """ I play around my CALL liquidity """

    Well, you got half that right. Funny how you were buying blocks of millions in the past when you certain the prospects were great -- at $14. But, as it at at $7-8 for a year(?), we didn't hear a peep from you (nor Elbit). And now you're back "playing."

    As I've said to newbie momo suckers... if you were here two years ago you would have encountered this guy (we called him Napoleon due to his "complex"), berating you if you didn't buy at $14.

    Like Elbit, he made 5 folds. :) It's like the Oprah Winfrey show. It sounds so good -- and then they disappear without informing everyone they could lose 5 folds.

    In the real world these people are called POSs. But, here, the carpet cleaner has a real-estate business on the side, he doesn't live with his mother, and she has a full set of teeth.

    Has it ever been clearer to the people who have been here for years?

    (Finally, I apologize to everyone for drawing Napoleon out. I was only trying to make a point. I didn't realize he was reading the forum still. Which, I think makes an even bigger point considering his rhetoric then and now -- relative to the price then and now. Most people would have had the common sense to act like they're not watching the forum -- because how do you explain being as vocal as he was at $14 and silent all this time -- when we're told how magnificent this stock will perform?).

    Nobody should believe *anything* that is said on this forum, especially about folds.

  • Reply to

    Strong buy!

    by by_and_hold Aug 31, 2015 12:45 PM

    Dave -whatever,
    I have never been a day trader for CALL and never would be. I don't sell my long position at all. I play around my CALL liquidity and that is all. If you are real trader then it's very funny statement from you. As any smart long investor, on any stock include CALL, you have to protect the value of your investment. There are hundred (are you paying attention?) hundred ways how you can do it if stock volatility is not huge. I use almost all of them. The simplest way - you can freeze value shorting the same amount if you are not sure. But it works well only if you have a little shares like Love-in-bushes has! His mom probably gave him money for 100 shares. But if you have hundred thousands and million shares, then other ways are working well as well. One of the best was is double options include private bids. Or if you see up or downtrend just one way is working well as well. CALL was very predictable during last 15-18 months. The way CALL management turn around business was transparent and a little bit stupid. They could do many thing in parallel but couldn't handle it. Finally the are on the right track and I can bid on the way up without much risk. I am a long term investor - very long! Trading options and other similar agreements is how I do money, the same as a real-estate business.
    Buy And Hold

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Amazon now sold out of their GO inventory(other resellers on amazon have it for higher price).
    Walmart website still has it for $34.85.BestBuy website has it for $36.99

  • Reply to

    I told you it was going up....

    by magic_jack_calling Sep 1, 2015 9:35 AM

    Why don't you use your psychic abilities to tell us about future days? I'd hate to find out that you're a false prophet...

  • Reply to

    Appannie rankings - starting 8/24/2015

    by daveinfl1 Aug 24, 2015 10:59 AM

    Sidepoint: One thing I noticed is that countries outside the USA, the downloads and grossing revenue rankings have started to catch fire and go up dramatically in the past couple of weeks. This is very interesting to me because there is no marketing or otherwise any money being spent to sell anyone outside the USA a subscription to the app.

    This company is in the midst of obtaining many new app subscriptions and app revenue outside the USA. And they are doing it likely by word of mouth and possibly the attraction of SMS.

  • Reply to

    Appannie rankings - starting 8/24/2015

    by daveinfl1 Aug 24, 2015 10:59 AM

    9/2/2015:
    - Steady, predictable daily revenue keeps flowing into MJ (& increasing over time) from the app.
    - The iOS app purchases are up from yesterday.
    - The Android app purchases are up from yesterday.

    iOS (iPhone only) magicApp this morning:
    Overall (grossing): #278 (up 9 from yesterday)
    USA (grossing Overall): #321 (up 23 from yesterday)
    USA (grossing Social category): #24 (up 3 from yesterday)

    Android magicApp this morning:
    USA Overall (grossing): #482 (unchanged 6 from yesterday)
    USA (grossing - Application category): #58 (up 4 from yesterday)
    USA (grossing - Social category): #10 (unchanged from yesterday)

  • Reply to

    Strong buy!

    by by_and_hold Aug 31, 2015 12:45 PM

    by_and_hold or buy_n_more...whatever. I think it's weird that you re-appeared suddenly since the last time you were on here in December. If you're a true long like me, then we're both in the red. No offense, but I don't see how you are making any profits or a serious investor. You come across to me like a day trader buying and selling.

  • Reply to

    I told you it was going up....

    by magic_jack_calling Sep 1, 2015 9:35 AM

    """ gross margins from 61.36% to 65.88% as well as better cost controls """

    "How much of that was from cutting marketing spend? How is R&D looking from prior Q and YOY?"

    I like the marketing cuts. Step in the right direction. But I do agree with you that MJ should spend more to innovate more.

  • Reply to

    As I said last year

    by by_and_hold Aug 31, 2015 12:26 PM

    """ I believe you. """"

    Hahahahahaha.

  • Reply to

    I told you it was going up....

    by magic_jack_calling Sep 1, 2015 9:35 AM

    """ gross margins from 61.36% to 65.88% as well as better cost controls """

    How much of that was from cutting marketing spend? How is R&D looking from prior Q and YOY?

  • Reply to

    Strong buy!

    by by_and_hold Aug 31, 2015 12:45 PM

    Every POS is welcome to sell as more as "it" wants! I am ready to get it! Go ahead!
    Buy And Hold

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    Strong buy!

    by by_and_hold Aug 31, 2015 12:45 PM

    Khe..khe...! Some idiot such as love-in-bushes sold me 6K in first minutes. I can imagine the hatred face with saliva dropping from the lip selling more with already trapped at $6.50 in average.
    Just wait a little... just wait
    I promise... that POSes will lose everything what they believed they gained!
    Buy And Hold

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    I told you it was going up....

    by magic_jack_calling Sep 1, 2015 9:35 AM

    The company’s earnings growth was influenced by year-on-year improvement in gross margins from 61.36% to 65.88% as well as better cost controls. As a result, operating margins (EBITDA margins) rose from 12.72% to 29.27% compared to the same period last year. For comparison, gross margins were 62.89% and EBITDA margins were 21.36% in the last reporting period.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    I told you it was going up....

    by magic_jack_calling Sep 1, 2015 9:35 AM

    So buy all the cheap shares!

  • This morning is day trader action.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

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