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  • According to a report I read, anyone else see this?

  • There ain't no god idiot.. go back to scam bible school.

  • You're being something of a hypocrite, given your past practice of regular contributions to political posts.

    But, by all means, feel free to contribute to discussions on shipping news,etc.

    Do you HAVE anything to contribute in that regard?

  • Reply to

    Suez above 20 and VLCCF at 19000

    by rogere1946 Apr 15, 2014 3:23 PM

    jersey good day for both SFL and FRO. The politics of what is going on in the Ukraine and the possibilities of a oil disruption from Russian oil fields. with the EU joining the US in a strong eco stance against Russia.

    Strong opinions on political issues do not always effect the stock market but understanding what a hard right controlled Congress would want to do with spending cuts is something that goes beyond politics and square into the effect such a backward policy would have on the US eco and thus the worlds eco. Folks should remember that in 2008 the US problems drug down the world eco.

    I am political but I also enjoy making money. I have made money when money is being spent and lost money when the cutters were either in charge or throwing their weight around. Its is really all about money. You either realize what makes the eco grow or you do not.

    Russia can not afford a eco war with the US and the EU. The Russian eco is not as strong nor will be able to last as long on credit as the USA and EU can both run if they have too. Unless Puken
    is a totally idiot he will remember what destroyed the USSR. It was foreign military might but
    a weak eco that could not support unlimited military spending and expansion.

    I see FRO as a short term play being helped now by what is going on between Russia and the US and I see SFY as a LT opportunity with a over 9% dividend while waiting for stock to rise up as well as perhaps dividend as well. FRO in 3 years will be a 10 buck or more stock but for now if it gets close to 5 I will take my money and run again as it will be played over and over again until the sector recovers. IMHO

  • Reply to

    Suez above 20 and VLCCF at 19000

    by rogere1946 Apr 15, 2014 3:23 PM

    COMPLETELY AGREE!

  • Reply to

    John Bolten is a teabagger freak

    by lakeed98 Apr 15, 2014 9:25 AM

    rje your ignorance is limitless. You start off by insulting the Brit police. Maybe you better check some FACTS. You know the things you right wing racist are ignorant of. The FACTS are that the unarmed cops of England produce a lower crime rate that the heavily armed US cops. Maybe a whistle and warning works better than you think but then again you don't think do you nit wit.

    The Brit crooks are also very much less armed than in the USA since in the England they don't have to run around sucking on gun barrels to prove what kind of men they are or be afraid that without guns their liberties will be lost. Maybe in England they understand that the vote not a gun assures freedom but again you don't have a brain to figure that one out do you.

    You insults to our twice elected president just again shows what a immature cry baby you losing right wingers are. The Facts are our military under Obama has killed more terrorist than did GW Bush under his Shock and Awe kill them all policies. Obama troops not only found OBL but killed him as well and did it within the borders of a foreign country that allowed Obama to send in US forces to get the terrorist. GW Bush could get anything out of #$%$ land and Obama gets the nod to fly 150 miles into their air space and attack a home inside the boundary of #$%$ land. Obama has finished up the GW Bush screw ups in Iraq and Afghan land by if nothing else getting out of a no win situation.

    The only child I see in your post is the spoiled cry baby who posted. Now run off to your #$%$ meeting then to your tea party meeting then go home and love it up with your guns.

  • Reply to

    Suez above 20 and VLCCF at 19000

    by rogere1946 Apr 15, 2014 3:23 PM

    I'm not in FRO but do hold SFL. Anyone in ship Finance wants to see FRO doing well as the two companies are still joined together financially. Many here remember SFL was a spinoff of FRO and so still holds the leases on their ships. I come here occasionally to see how FRO is doing but find it discouraging to have to wade through all the non productive politics. Most of us have strong political opinions- this just isn't the place to air them.

  • Reply to

    John Bolten is a teabagger freak

    by lakeed98 Apr 15, 2014 9:25 AM

    Nikky, you are so right. Our piddle pants president reminds me of the London policeman who when witnessing a crime while unarmed , blows his whistle and shouts "Stop, or I shall cry stop again." When your opponent sees you draw a line in the sand, then back up and draw another line, then a third, all credibility is lost. Putin has seen that Obama has no respect for the laws of the Nation he has been attempting to govern, and he knows Obama's disdain for the military. He is the bully in the playground; Obama is the tearful child running the shameful way home.

  • Reply to

    sell this #$%$

    by rami36 Apr 14, 2014 2:00 PM

    great call .. once you said this FRO jumped 40 cent or 12% within 24 hrs. lots of manipulation here

  • Reply to

    John Bolten is a teabagger freak

    by lakeed98 Apr 15, 2014 9:25 AM

    nikky which one of those issue do you want the US to go to war over? I don't know why you added Libya to the list of failures since NATO won that one. You must consider the cost of lives at Benghazi as making the whole Libya deal a losing effort? If you do I guess you would love the body count coming from a move in the Caspain's against Russia itself? Or how many would die in Syria to overthrow a Gov. that is less Muslim than the ones around it in Iraq, Iran and SA? The real problem with Syria is that its dictator is like Saddam Hussin and is not religious leader but a pure despot. He unlike Saddam is Russia's boy instead of ours and like Saddam he does not take orders from anyone too well. The forces Against this man are worse than the man unless you are his enemy. Syria has done nothing against US interest or Israeli to the degree that Iran does almost daily.

    If you think any GOP elected president is going to war for a state in Northern Ukraine against Russia then you are an idiot. Even the Hawk McCain said military response is OUT OF THE QUESTION. I want a president in office who can live with an insult rather than have to go to war. GW Bush was a man that chose not to take the insult and went to war against Saddam but Saddam is not Russia. Just as China answers to eco reality so will Russia the use of bullets is not going to be the answer but instead a restrained response by our NATO allies on eco front will accomplish a better end game. Worse case situation is that Russia ends up with a "Part of what once was theirs back into mother Russia" The rest of the Ukraine remains free.
    That seems to be the will of the people who live in both areas. If Russia "invades" the Ukraine the we go to eco war against them on all fronts with our allies in NATO. War over the Ukraine is out of the question.

    Even as much as I was against the war in Iraq I never rejoiced as you do over the presidents pickle real or unreal.

  • Reply to

    John Bolten is a teabagger freak

    by lakeed98 Apr 15, 2014 9:25 AM

    ha, ha, ha.......Putin is winning and he knows it. Puny little 'o' gets his skinny #$%$ kicked over Libya, Syria, and now Ukraine. Ha, ha. Vlad knows he's a lightweight and just keeps pushing his nose in the dirt. Little 'o" can't do anything but gnash his teeth and take it. Poor baby.
    Kerry must be kicking himself for taking a job where his prez can't lead.

  • Reply to

    Health care becoming unaffordable for most

    by goldyhawk Apr 15, 2014 10:57 AM

    goldy health care has been unaffordable for the majority of American's for a long time. ACA has done not much to change that but it has shifted who gets it. Millions of Americans over 65 has depended on Medicare for their insurance for years. That remains the same but the wealther older Americans can afford suppliments and drug coverage which the poorest on medicare can not afford now or then.

    Millions of Americans were not allowed to have insurance before ACA because of preexisting conditions.
    This has changed. To some it may cost more but they can have it. To others the cost is lower.

    Millions of American between the ages of 18-26 get really cheap insurance by being covered on parents insurance. Again this helps the poor folks more than those with money but helps ALL.

    Anyone can now get some form of insurance and those that could afford it before can surely afford it now since the Gov. is giving support again to the lower income earners toward the cost of their insurance.

    The fact that maybe 20% of the better off American's may pay more does not change the FACTS that more are benefitting from ACA than are getting hurt. Even brainwashed American's are starting to figure that out.
    Those that are paying more and who can afford it (like you and me) are the ones that tend to cry baby about the cost. I am blessed not to have to worry about about a month bill for insurance.

    I choose to take Medicare part B for my wife and me for peace of mind which to me is worth a lot more than a mere 230 bucks a month. My insurance went down 80 bucks a month so overall I am only paying 150 bucks a month for total coverage. Peace of mind.

  • Reply to

    Suez above 20 and VLCCF at 19000

    by rogere1946 Apr 15, 2014 3:23 PM

    Roger that,
    Thanks for the info.

  • Reply to

    Health care becoming unaffordable for most

    by goldyhawk Apr 15, 2014 10:57 AM

    Nah. Not a lie. There is a fair amount of info on this out in a variety of media sources. Part of the issue is the uncertainty about the claims experience that will result from the new customer base signing up - particularly given the lower than expected (hoped for?) sign up of younger folks. Companies are predicting double-digit rate increases in response.

    Before you scream "LIE"... remember the promises that were made about keeping one's insurance plan, one's doctor, and that one's insurance cost would not increase. All of those "promises" proved to be less than truthful.

    ACA did not decrease the overall cost for healthcare. Consequently, for ANYONE to get a break on healthcare costs, someone ELSE has to pay more. We're still working our way through the issues that will determine WHO will have to pay more and how much they will have to pay.

  • Reply to

    GOP and racism

    by rogere1946 Apr 14, 2014 1:44 AM

    lakeed wrote "SCS,there has been a net loss of illegals under President Obama."

    IF that's true (I'm not saying it is), would you say that the economy is improving because of it?

    Are you also claiming that they are all racists and don't want to live in a country where a Black man is President?

    Always interested in your point of view.

  • Reply to

    Health care becoming unaffordable for most

    by goldyhawk Apr 15, 2014 10:57 AM

    lakeed, it's part of that "vast right-wing conspiracy" Hillary accused conservatives of when they said her hubby was fooling around. Turned out to be true, after all.

  • Reply to

    GOP and racism

    by rogere1946 Apr 14, 2014 1:44 AM

    ". Not ONE GOP elected official is far putting CEO and small business owners in jail."

    Don't get out much, do you? The Gov of SC (?) is firmly behind that. So are a number some of right-wight organizations.

    " Why then should a person who came to the USA when he was 12 years old brought by his parents and has lived here for 25 years not have a way to be a citizen?"

    He does. He can apply for citizenship. Serve in the military...

    Why should that individual get a leg up on citizenship over someone who played by the rules?

    Using your twisted logic, if someone robs a bank he can avoid prosecution if he invests his take in the community, creates jobs... The fact that his success is built on an illegal act is, to your thinking, completely irrelevant.

    " Are you for breaking up families? How can you be a Christian and support that sort of thing?"

    Um. Rog. I thought you read the Scriptures. I forget the reference, but in one of the OT historical books(?) God, via his prophets, REQUIRED that families be broken up when the Hebrew men intermarried with local women.

    That aside... a family does not have to be broken up. The US (?) spouse and kids can accompany the illegal back to his/her home. One spouse leaving, the other staying is NOT the only option open to the family.

  • Reply to

    John Bolten is a teabagger freak

    by lakeed98 Apr 15, 2014 9:25 AM

    No Goldy,It's you who is a stupid uninformed Yokel.
    Even an idiot, like you, knows about Crimean being transferred to the Ukraine. What you are too stupid to understand is Russia has controlled the Ukraine buy having their puppet in power there.
    You and John Bolden are of the same cut, Ignorant morons.

  • Looks like Suez rates are up almost 100% from the lows and VLCCF are right over 19,000 which means FRO is making cash flow. If rates continue to go up that will be good for FRO. Suez are not as important to FRO as is VLCCF but they do effect overall cash flow.

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