=LBCB You might catch on that this is spam. E
Wow... you really are clueless. You know you can click on an alias and see a person's posting history. It was NOT spam. It was a follow-up to this poster's original idiotic statement:
acev7071 • May 13, 2014 10:11 PM Flag
short squess coming
just starting, and it will be breath taking. raise your sells to .95.
Your research and comprehension skills are lacking. Turn your money over to a professional while you still have some left.
Uh, no disparagement of Mr. Seiden's rodeo skills... but after all, he's just a paid enforcer -- you could hire him to "turn around" a worthless shell corp if you are willing to pay him -- but zero, read backwards, is just orez.
(You recent posters seem bent on suggesting is this situation is one of a poorly managed industrial company that only wants for strong leadership -- what if it's the dregs of a stock scam, where there never was any meaningful operations to start with??? How do you "turn around" a company based on the ludicrous notion of mixing coal powder with water and selling it by the truckload, at a huge profit, to centralized steam-heating companies?)
For some strange reason, I don't think its a coincidence that this barrage of rah-rah buy-up-the-stock posts comes with the RS package... nor that suddenly the shares sometimes trade at double their recent price (but only on "certain" trades... I'm sure if *I* wanted to sell, it would drop back down fast enough).
(Talk about scam artists!)
Mr. Vest. As this is Robert Seiden's 4th rodeo that I know of, I am quite confident he knows how to ride the bull. Let's see how it turns out.
We can agree to disagree. I have been accumulating now for 3 weeks because I believe that Mr. Seiden can bring back value to the shareholders in this company. I think he knows what he is doing.
Rearranging the management of the shell company trading in the US is meaningless since all assets are in the operating company in China which Seiden can not rearrange.
You'll need to be a bit more specific... *which* company are you talking about: Sino Clean Energy?
Wiscon Holdings Limited?
Suoke Clean Energy?
Suo'ang New Energy?
Dongguan Clean Energy?
All those in favor of Ren being the continued leader of this company, say REN!
All those in favor of Seiden making an attempt at turning the company around, say SEIDEN!
You might catch on that this is spam. Everybody knows there is no short interest. But it is fun to watch you respond to it.
=shorts are noticing
And just what are those 11,200 shares currently short noticing?
It is amazing how the clueless always come back to a "short squeeze". Are you really not able to look up the short interest or is your target audience people even more clueless than yourself?
Oof! Of course, that should be WISCON HOLDINGS -- darn auto-correct! (No Sino connection to The Dairy State that I know of.)
Anyhow, you'll soon see that Gareth Yau-Sing Tang has had many fingers in the structure of Sino Clean from the start (to assist in "clean"ing out the US investors)...
In 2007 Gareth registered SCEI's Hong Kong shell corp: Wiscon Holdings Ltd. (registration # 1071638)
[ABLE SECRETARIAL SERVICES is Gareth]
Gareth was also founder/manager of the HK corp for SCEI's prior auditor (AGCA CPA/Yu & Associates). SCEI dismissed AGCA, Inc. (formerly known as Yu & Associates CPA Corporation) on December 5, 2008, and replaced them with Weinberg. (Presumably because, as one of Weinberg's highest paying audit clients, they would get a *very* easy okay on every financial statement.)
Gareth is still connected with Weinbergs's HK affiliate, K.P. Cheng & co.
Robert, better get some of your newly retained Foley & Lardner folks to set up a meeting with Gareth in Hong Kong. (Glad I'm not footing the bill for all this investigative stuff!)
Hey, a fair and honest response. Thank you Mizesaw. We don't know the outcome of ZSTN but it does look like a great way to do an end around on any Chinese laws prohibiting cash leaving the country without government approval. In SCEI, Seiden does not need government approval to rearrange management and make the situation better for shareholders.
ZSTN had assets outside of China and Seiden got them. So far he has gotten nothing from within China although he did successfully bribe some bank officials there into freezing assets.
Obviously he is. That doesn't mean that he will be successful or that if he is that he won't take the lion's share of assets as fees.
In the ZSTN case he was lucky since he could seize assets outside of China. In cases such as SCEI where almost all assets reside in China; it has yet to be seen if he can actually do more than bribe corrupt bank officials into temporarily freezing assets.
I'm just glad that there are test cases to monitor and I wish Seiden 100% success and that he only claims maybe 20% of the proceeds as fees. If so - I too want to hire him so that I can recover what Guo at DGW stole from me.
So far as expressed by the stock price of SCEI - not many evidently believe that he will succeed. Time will tell...
Excuse me LBCB, I am not a shareholder in SCEI and never have been. So please don't make assumptions you don't know. I am intrigued by what they are doing and glad to see shareholders stand up to the company.
= Here are 43 shareholders who have stood up to Mr. Ren and decided to put up a fight, and you and your friends who have bashed Mr. Ren for years are now more or less saying the shareholders should just HAND HIM THE COMPANY.
No... we are saying that you shouldn't have handed him your money (bought stock) in the first place. You have no accountability and no recourse. The court activity is a ruse for the group to sell their stock to naive and gullible people.
Still waiting for ANYONE to show a single penny that has left China and gone into the hands of a US investor.
You know what is worse than losing money in a stock? Not moving on from your loss. A loss can be recovered, but DEAD MONEY takes away that possibility. Sitting on a dead stock with false hope is the worst thing that can happen to an investor. Until they show a single penny that has been returned to a US shareholder, these hucksters are only selling false dreams along with their worthless shares.
You didn't need to HAND HIM the company... it was never yours.
So this said, the ZSTN case is just a Robert Seiden fabrication full of lies and make believe successes.....
I think you all just make up stuff as you go along.
=Given what shareholders were up against, forcing the entire company into receivership was by far the best option and I would argue the only option.
That statement shows you don't know what you are talking about. "THE ENTIRE COMPANY" is not controlled by the Receiver. He "controls" the defunct Nevada holding company that has no assets. He does not control the Chinese operating subsidiaries.