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  • Reply to

    ADR conference call

    by akna_how Jan 27, 2015 9:20 PM

    Thanks for the info. Not going to give my credit card number to PACER so I'll just follow your posts.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    ADR conference call

    by akna_how Jan 27, 2015 9:20 PM

    Lester,

    All I've found on PACER is the Notice of Service for the interrogatories.

    E-Inks' legal bills are mounting with each set, and the Court has allowed each side 25 sets of interrogatories over the course discovery.

    PACER has free registration and charges .10 per page to view and download documents. If you don't view more than 150 pages per quarter, they waive the charges.

  • Reply to

    ADR conference call

    by akna_how Jan 27, 2015 9:20 PM

    Bard,

    Does Pacer show you the second set of interrogatories? Would be interesting to know what they asked in the first set vs second set.

    Just glad to see this moving along and not dragging out for years.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    ADR conference call

    by akna_how Jan 27, 2015 9:20 PM

    Bard,
    That's par for the course for lawsuits. I'd expect REFR wants to come from a place of strength in their patents vs. E-Ink's claim that they are invalid.

    Thanks for the heads up. Don't have Pacer so your updates are very helpful.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    ADR conference call

    by akna_how Jan 27, 2015 9:20 PM

    Lester,

    While RFI has said they want to partner with E-Ink, their attorneys served E-Ink with their second set of interrogatories last Friday.

    Good cop, bad cop. SOP.

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    Daimler AG is offering a “currency rebate” of 18 percent off the list price of its Mercedes and Smart autos, the Stuttgart, Germany-based manufacturer said in a statement today.

  • Reply to

    ADR conference call

    by akna_how Jan 27, 2015 9:20 PM

    I have a different view of the next conference being scheduled. I think it means both parties are willing to be involved in settlement further settlement talks. It's early in the process but with the IPR being denied, I would imagine E-Ink might be more amenable to being coming a licensee. It has the advantage of them getting the use of REFR's patents, and their know-how. They may be able to develop even better epaper products.

    Just a conjecture on my part. The time between the two meetings gives both parties a chance to come up with a plan and work with that to come to an agreement that both parties can benefit from. I think REFR is going for a win-win solution since REFR has publicly said they would like to partner with E-Ink in further development of the technology.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    ADR conference call

    by akna_how Jan 27, 2015 9:20 PM
    thebardof_avoncalling thebardof_avoncalling Jan 29, 2015 10:49 AM Flag

    Sorry, akna, but I just saw your post.

    It's confusing, but in the Delaware magistrate court requires parties participating in a mediation conference to supply the judges with confidential statements that include:

    "Settlement Efforts: .. a brief description of prior settlement negotiations and discussions, including the most recent offers or demands exchanged between the parties and the reasons for rejection, and the party's assessment as to why settlement has not been reached.

    “Settlement Proposal”: Describe the party’s proposed framework for a
    resolution (i.e., describe what the material components of a settlement agreement are from the party’s perspective and provide a proposal as to what the content of each of those components should be). Identify any interests or issues not directly involved in this matter that may frustrate or further settlement. If the party has any suggestions as to how the Court may be helpful in reaching a resolution, such suggestions should also be described."

    The court has ordered a second mediation conference for March 30, so I'm guessing the companies aren't close to reaching an agreement. And I could be wrong.

  • Reply to

    Something to work with.....

    by threespeech Jan 28, 2015 9:45 AM

    Very good. And yet RFI doesn't even have the video on their youtube site. Unless there is some legal reason for the absence.

  • Reply to

    Something to work with.....

    by threespeech Jan 28, 2015 9:45 AM
    thebardof_avoncalling thebardof_avoncalling Jan 28, 2015 11:25 AM Flag

    "don't think the "marketing consultants" associated with RFI have the foresight."

    Maybe not the foresight, but they had the final say as to what the video contains. Every license, including Asahi's, contains the following provision:

    " LICENSEE shall also furnish to LICENSOR at the same time it becomes available to any third party a copy of each brochure, advertisement or other marketing and promotional materials prepared, published or distributed by LICENSEE or its sublicensees relating to Licensed Products. LICENSOR shall have the right, but not the obligation, to approve any use by LICENSEE of its name, logo, or other information about Licensed Products and to require the correction of any inaccurate information".

  • See it has 500+ hits, but check out the Asahi you tube video. Use "light control glass wonderlite" as your selection if you have not seen the video. Needs a little work with the commentator, but at least someone has a bit of imagination and humor. Now that should be a joint venture with Daimler and Asahi as a commercial, don't think the "marketing consultants" associated with RFI have the foresight. Wonderlite is also on the recommended products section on the front page of Asahi's website.

  • Reply to

    ADR conference call

    by akna_how Jan 27, 2015 9:20 PM

    bard any significance to the use of "Settlement Teleconfrence?

  • Reply to

    ADR conference call

    by akna_how Jan 27, 2015 9:20 PM

    01/26/15 01/27/15 Minute Entry for proceedings held before Judge Christopher J. Burke - Settlement Teleconference held on 1/26/2015. (dlk)

  • Reply to

    ADR conference call

    by akna_how Jan 27, 2015 9:20 PM
    thebardof_avoncalling thebardof_avoncalling Jan 27, 2015 10:18 PM Flag

    PACER shows it entered in the case file as completed.

  • Was the call postponed due to the weather?

  • That only applies to those with insider information that hasn't been made public. REFR made 3 press releases within 30 days of BOD Alex bought 2000 shares on 9/23/14 including Asahi's supplying glass to Mercedes and Asahi's new SPD-product "Wonderlite."

    "The argument for shadowing insiders makes a lot of sense. Executives and directors have the most up-to-date information on their companies' prospects. Intimately acquainted with cyclical trends, order flow, supply and production bottlenecks, costs and other key ingredients of business success, these insiders are way ahead of analysts and portfolio managers, not to mention individual investors. Insiders' decisions - legal or not - to trade in their own companies' stocks are certainly worth examining."

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Well.......you better do some more checking. The joke just might be on you. Don't know if there are any precise guidelines concerning the scenario.

  • ...No major news for REFR in the near-term because an insider can't trade if there is. Must be time for Joe and Seth to open the closet and pull out some awards, bells to ring, new no name licensees not in the US and trade shows to dominate.

  • Reply to

    Lester

    by thebardof_avoncalling Jan 23, 2015 1:59 PM

    Lester,

    If you read E-Ink's original petition to the IPR board, you'll see that they challenged the validity of the '185 patent based on the EPD patents of Morita and Tada, and Sasoke's metal oxide patent. as I mentioned in my original post. They have no standing to file a countersuit using somebody else's patents.

    It's the metal oxide issue that has me intrigued, because E-Ink is still looking for ways to invalidate it. This leads me to believe they might be using some type of metal oxide in their EPDs, but my research of their patents hasn't uncovered anything yet.

    The IPR panel's decision makes much more sense, IMHO, if one understands what E-Ink 's petition asked for and how RFI's response countered their arguments.

    As to a negotiated settlement, keep in mind that a monetary award likely to be far less than the trebel damages available through a jury trial. The huge advantage is that settlement eliminates the possibility of an appeal. My biggest hope is that it leads to a license giving RFI complete access to E-Ink's product sales information.

  • Reply to

    Lester

    by thebardof_avoncalling Jan 23, 2015 1:59 PM

    The counter suit was in response to your message saying REFR may have infringed on EPD.

    I misspoke when I said pro bono as another message on this reminded me.

    As far as E-Ink starting their work in 1997, that is still a 33 year difference since Saxe started improving on the Land Patent.

    My take on all of this is that the lawyers working on a contingency had worked hard doing their due diligence before they took the suit on a contingency. I also still believe that there will be a negotiated settlement that both parties will benefit from. E-Ink paying royalties and damages to REFR.

    Thanks for your posts, they are very helpful.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

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