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Delphi Automotive Systems (DPH) Message Board

  • jon2725 jon2725 Oct 7, 2005 4:13 PM Flag

    Wall Street know-it-alls...

    I'm sorry, did this company already file for bankruptcy? Just looking at the share price, it must have...
    DAL .8 something
    NWA .7 something
    DPH ???
    Anyone else hear that with every purchase of Delphi stock, you now get a Kleenex and a Pink Sheet? Of course, they are both worth more than the stock itself...

    Steve Miller is making millions to come in and do a hatchet job on this company, and for what??? Wasn't this stock at $6 in late August? Who is this guy? Haven't seen someone take care of shareholders this way since Lay and Kozlowski! Anyone eles seeing a shareholder suit against current and former management as being in the works? I can't imagine having put my savings in this stock; got to feel bad for those guys:( always need help at McDonalds:)
    GM is in deep trouble too, bailout or not they aren't in control of this company anymore (40% of parts) and new management isn't beholden to them (Battenberg). Looks like Detroit is going to be getting even more ghetto...

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    • "Looks like Detroit is going to be getting even more ghetto..."

      Pretty sure that UAW/GM/DPH have to come to some type of agreement

      1. GM depends on DPH for vital parts required to assembly their cars

      2. GM would be responsible for some of DPH debts

      3. There would be 185,000 good folks out of jobs.

      4. Long time workers with large sums of company stock, would see that money vanish

      5. UAW would become weaker (less members)

      jmho, nothing more

      Always hate to see the blue collar worker get hit...

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      • Unfortunately, so many people are confusing Chapter 11 bankruptcy with going out of business.

        1. I was working for Federal-Mogul when they filed. The plants didn't stop working for an hour. I'm not saying it didn't have an impact, but it was a mere ripple in the supply of parts that we produced. People did not lose their jobs. At least not one person at my facility. And GM and Ford still got the parts we were supposed to be supplying. When UAL filed, their flights continued on schedule (or as much on schedule as they ever did). The whole notion that GM would be greatly affected from a parts supply standpoint is a load.

        2. GM would in fact be responsible for a portion of DPH debts to UAW, but that only puts GM in a stronger position with the UAW. If they bail DPH out, they will never see an end to their own UAW woes.

        3. There is no reason to believe that 185,000 would lose their jobs. There would certainly be some loss due to some plant closings and the end of the jobs bank, but the company plans to remain intact and keep producing parts.

        4. Workers are free to trade their DPH stock for another mutual fund. I lost a ton of money on DPH stock too, but I realized at about $6 I needed to cut my losses. I would hope that no workers (long-time or not) don't still have a lot of company stock.

        5. UAW would in fact become weaker. That more incentive for DPH to file and GM to allow it.

        Just my opinions.

      • UAW cannot let it's paying members lose their jobs or they will become weaker, weaker

    • You can train a pig, give it a mansion, and lots of money,but it still has basic instinct to wallow in the mud.All the years that detroit has listened and went along with paying a pig 30 bucks an hour to screw on lug nuts, it doesnt matter to them. They are perfectly happy with the handouts and a muddy hole. So why give them the moon? IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO THEM.!!

    • Better watchout for those folks from the Detroit ghettos , they will come take your shit and your wife and daughters.