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  • elk_1l elk_1l Jun 18, 2012 2:12 PM Flag

    Answer for Tinman

    Re: "name ONE study" [the tinman challenge]


    By Seth Stephens-Davidowitz, NYT, June 9, 2012

    Barack Obama won 52.9 percent of the popular vote in 2008 and 365 electoral votes, 95 more than he needed. Many naturally concluded that prejudice was not a major factor against a black presidential candidate in modern America. My research, a comparison of Americans’ Google searches and their voting patterns, found otherwise. If my results are correct, racial animus cost Mr. Obama many more votes than we may have realized.

    Quantifying the effects of racial prejudice on voting is notoriously problematic. Few people admit bias in surveys. So I used a new tool, Google Insights, which tells researchers how often words are searched in different parts of the United States.

    Can we really quantify racial prejudice in different parts of the country based solely on how often certain words are used on Google? Not perfectly, but remarkably well. Google, aggregating information from billions of searches, has an uncanny ability to reveal meaningful social patterns. “God” is Googled more often in the Bible Belt, “Lakers” in Los Angeles.

    The conditions under which people use Google — online, most likely alone, not participating in an official survey — are ideal for capturing what they are really thinking and feeling. You may have typed things into Google that you would hesitate to admit in polite company. I certainly have. The majority of Americans have as well: we Google the word “porn” more often than the word “weather.”

    And many Americans use Google to find racially charged material. I performed the somewhat unpleasant task of ranking states and media markets in the United States based on the proportion of their Google searches that included the word “nigger(s).” This word was included in roughly the same number of Google searches as terms like “Lakers,” “Daily Show,” “migraine” and “economist.”

    A huge proportion of the searches I looked at were for jokes about African-Americans. (I did not include searches that included the word “nigga” because these searches were mostly for rap lyrics.) I used data from 2004 to 2007 because I wanted a measure not directly influenced by feelings toward Mr. Obama. From 2008 onward, “Obama” is a prevalent term in racially charged searches.

    The state with the highest racially charged search rate in the country was West Virginia. Other areas with high percentages included western Pennsylvania, eastern Ohio, upstate New York and southern Mississippi.

    Once I figured out which parts of the country had the highest racially charged search rates, I could test whether Mr. Obama underperformed in these areas. I predicted how many votes Mr. Obama should have received based on how many votes John Kerry received in 2004 plus the average gain achieved by other 2008 Democratic Congressional candidates. The results were striking: The higher the racially charged search rate in an area, the worse Mr. Obama did. …………………………….

    ADD UP THE TOTALS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND RACIAL ANIMUS COST MR. OBAMA THREE TO FIVE PERCENTAGE POINTS OF THE POPULAR VOTE. [CAPS added by me] In other words, racial prejudice gave John McCain the equivalent of a home-state advantage nationally. ……………. -racist-are-we-ask-google/

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    • tinmanken Jun 19, 2012 5:53 PM Flag


      I do believe the intelligent folks reading your garbage know whos the Real Racist here.

      a pickpocket meets a saint and all he sees are the pockets. repeat ten times then maybe you will get a clue. though I have my doubts. You sound like you were reared in a home that hate all races but your own.

      Here is a test: Describe Justin Bieber, Now, if you have children ask them to describe Justin Bieber if the first adjective is his skin color.....

    • tinmanken Jun 19, 2012 5:30 PM Flag


      Yes there is racism in america and the rest of the world. I do not deny that fact. Yes there is racism toward the current president.I personal do not care race.
      I take offense to people labeling the Tea Party and conseratives as racist, In fact, those who attach the label of racism to the TP recieved thier information from an MSNBC talking point.
      There once was a time when you could take the media at thier word...that time has long past. Now the media trys to elect the president. BTW Obama has not pass a budget in 4 years but he can circumvent congress to inact his immigration policy to gain the Hispanic vote. Why not circumvent the so called "do nothing congress" on the budget, a greater issue to our nation security than immigration.

    • UH HUH, and it is all because of George Bush, RIGHT?

      • 3 Replies to dickw3939
      • Re: "Elk, you must be an MSNBC junkie. You love their Kool-Aid so much you can't be honest and criical of them."

        dickw, I presume you meant to say The Huffington Post (the source of the article you took issue with above). Usually I post more popularized versions of stuff on the MB here but I do often go to the original sources so it is great to see that you are in favor of those more direct sources of honest data and critical evaluation. In that case, even though you will have to work a little harder and really look at the nature of the data, the method of analysis, the results and conclusions to evaluate them for yourself so I trust you will be quite happy to do so and inform us of any problems you see therein. Here are some of the underlying and excellent University political research studies presenting the data on Fox News viewers being, for instance, both less informed and more misinformed than, among others, even those who don't watch any news:


      we are racists, because clearly someone as qualified and competent as Obama should have gotten so many more votes, especially with the fluff job the press gave the voting electorate.

      What a joke... it is shocking more people havent seen thru the veneer even now after everything. Same policies as the last guy.

      • 2 Replies to zarkinfrood1
      • No, most shocking of all would be data showing he won precisely because of race as compared to how a caucasian candidate with equal "qualifications" would have done.

        This is all as shaky as investing in actc based on it's value as a research lab shell with billions of shares OS.

      • Re: "we are racists, because clearly someone as qualified and competent as Obama should have gotten so many more votes, especially with the fluff job the press gave the voting electorate. What a joke... it is shocking more people havent seen thru the veneer even now after everything. Same policies as the last guy."

        zarkin, why don't you read what the study actually says and documents? It's so easy to set up a total straw man and then dramatically and self-righteously knock it down, isn't it?

    • tinmanken Jun 18, 2012 4:13 PM Flag

      you are try to sell this as research its a BLOG. I think I am getting the picture now.. ACTC investors think a blog (someone opinion) is a Bona fide research study. And to top it off, you reference Google bahaha. yes, google provides the information the government wants you to have. BTW if race was not a factor in the 08 elections, why the 95% approval rating with Blacks today?

      • 2 Replies to tinmanken
      • You would have to be naive to think that race was not a factor in the 2008 elections. I have always said that had Mr Obama been white the count would have been far FAR higher.
        Racism is still hugely prevalent in America and in fact across the globe. I tried to find accommodation for a really nice Indian couple but guess what. 98% of people said they would take them if they weren't Indian. Look at the riots in UK over race and the FELL language from so called white citizens to immigrants on public transport and public places. It is rampant and getting worse. I am glad that I won't be on this earth too much longer to witness the racial HELL that my sons will have to go through.

    • Elk....He does not seem to be responding perhaps he eased on down...eased on down the road..

      Rumor has it he is interested in the Myoblast program for some odd reason?