How long will this "peace" last?
Word is Egypt gets more funds from the US to help protrol their Gaza boarder to stop rocket shipments from Iran that are being channeled through N Sudan. What have they been doing for the past year!?
No recognition of Israel
"Morsi hails from the fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt's most powerful political group and Hamas' own parent organization. Brotherhood leaders, including Morsi, refuse to speak to Israeli officials. Morsi hasn't even said the name of the country publicly since he was inaugurated in late June, though he has referred to its people as "Israelis."
The above from a news summary. Hamas feels emboldened after this latest incident. Egypt has new standing Turkey was absent. Israel must be conerned about who it's true allies are. Hill gets a few more frequent flier miles.
Meanwhile, Syria is worsening.
Elk quoted parts of the interview Bill Clinton gave on the latest crisis and in a not so subtle way blame Israel for the impass. Twisted view of the history that he was a part of in my opinion - he even concedes that he still doesn't know why Arafat walked away from the deal that would have created a Palestinian State.
Bottom line is the Palestinians walked away from a deal that would have given them their own nation and launched the 2nd intifada which was exceptionally bloody and long.
They have fired rockets into Israel for most of the past 10 years.
In spite of all the attacks and Hamas' stated objective that Israel should not exist, Israel cedes control of Gaza and the West Bank to the Palestinians.
The Gaza Palestinians elected a terrorist organization to lead them. What did Hamas do once in power? They slaughtered their Palestinian political rivals so that we now have two pseudo states.
Does Hamas look at the Arab Spring as an opportunity to re engage in a peace process towards an independent state? No, they continue to act as the pawns of Arab radicals and Iran.
So, Bill Clinton, if Hamas was ready for statehood and ready to stop this cycle of violence say so and recognize the state of Israel and confirm it's right to exist!
Re: "...Bottom line is the Palestinians walked away from a deal that would have given them their own nation..."
You are right, nobeach, the Palestinians did walk away from a good deal at one point but the bottom line is that there is gross and callous manipulation of mindless rage on both sides resulting also in great suffering on both sides.
Sentiment: Strong Buy
Isreal needs to use the "iron choke" along with the iron dome! Enough is enough. These trouble maker have rained down more missiles on Isreal than the Germans rained on Britain during WWII. At the last count, they have fired more than 8,000 missiles on Isreal, why? I think this is a dress rehearsal for Iran, fearing what Isreal may do to stem the Nuclear threat they face from Iran. Don't be shocked if Hezbollah starts pelting isreal with rockets in the north.
Why do these "peaceful" foes want to WIPE Isreal from the earth? Ishmael was also blessed, so what's their problem? I guess Isreal must be a racist nation too....bwahahahahaha
For those naive folks, which now appears to include Bill Clinton, the latest from Palestinian leadership from a NYT article.
"In a sermonlike speech laced with Koranic verses, the Hamas prime minister, Ismail Haniya, promised on Thursday to “establish an independent state on all Palestine land,” foreboding words from the leader of an organization whose charter prophesizes Israel’s elimination."
Why the United States continues to look at the governments in the region, especially the new Egypt, as "peace partners" is beyond rationale thinking.
Re: "Isreal needs to use the "iron choke" along with the iron dome! Enough is enough. These trouble maker have rained down more missiles on Isreal than the Germans rained on Britain during WWII. At the last count, they have fired more than 8,000 missiles on Isreal, why? I think this is a dress rehearsal for Iran, fearing what Isreal may do to stem the Nuclear threat they face from Iran. Don't be shocked if Hezbollah starts pelting isreal with rockets in the north.
Why do these "peaceful" foes want to WIPE Isreal from the earth? Ishmael was also blessed, so what's their problem? I guess Isreal must be a racist nation too….bwahahahahaha"
Covering This Gaza War
11/20/2012, Sherine Tadros
It's incredible to watch this war being covered on the inside, as it should have been during the previous war, by hundreds of foreign as well as local journalists.
In 2008 Israel and Egypt sealed their borders confining the journalists to the outskirts of the war inside the Strip. Myself and Ayman Mohyeldin (now NBC Foreign Affairs Correspondent) were left to describe what was happening to the outside world. We couldn't cover every strike, every tragedy, we couldn't be everywhere and we weren't awake 24 hours a day. Now, Gaza is under the microscope, whether via social media, print, radio, TV -- there is no ignoring what is raging within.
I have my own theories as to why Israel decided not to lock out the journalists this time around, but that is for another post.
Gaza is not a particularly hard story to cover; it's happening all around you. The biggest problem for journalists is in fact that it is so obviously an unbalanced conflict -- there is no equating Israel with Gaza, Palestinian fighters with the Israeli Army and rockets with missile strikes.
But it's precisely that which journalists struggle with. We are taught to be neutral, impartial, balanced. But this is not a balanced conflict and in the pursuit to even things out, some have ended up reporting the wrong story, emphasizing things they would normally not emphasize in the interest of looking balanced.
This week I heard a TV correspondent, who I very much respect and admire, throw back to the studio with the words "as Palestinians call it, the Israeli siege on Gaza." She was standing in Gaza City where Israeli ground forces were surrounding the perimeter of the Strip. Warships surrounded the sea and drones and F16s patrolled the skies above. If there was ever a time to call Gaza under siege with certainty, it was then. Yet as she stood talking about the strikes and the people killed, her need to be balanced at the end made her unable to tell the cold bold truth.
There is a general problem with media when it comes to the Arab-Israeli conflict. The need to sanitize events so as not to be controversial and upset the wrong people, the lack of humanizing the conflict for fear that it will make you look sympathetic or worse empathetic to the Palestinians, which could be career suicide. But not being bold and telling it how it is ultimately is a disservice to the truth and to journalism.
There are some simple facts about this story that I challenge anyone to disagree with yet are so often missing from coverage:
Hamas is not Gaza. Gaza has over 1.5 million Palestinians living in it. There are mothers and fathers and brothers and babies. There are people that have no interest in politics. Gaza is a society, not an island of terrorists. You cannot use the words Gaza and Hamas interchangeably. Similarly, Hamas is the ruling authority in Gaza -- there is no such thing as a Hamas school, or a Hamas police station or a Hamas ministry. These are adjectives are used by Israel to justify the targeting of these sites. Many if not most who work in these institutions are not members of the Hamas organization. There is also a difference between a member of Hamas and a Palestinian fighter. Again a distinction is so often lost.
But the thing journalists seem to be struggling most with right now is what constitutes a legitimate target. A house with 10 family members, including kids, women and old people is struck with a missile. They all die. There is initial outrage. But then the Israeli army says it was targeting a "Hamas official." Suddenly the coverage is different. The line about the Hamas official is put into every script without question or context -- all is well now because initially the story seemed unbalanced, too risky to report because it sounded too bad to be true (even though in 2008 Israel shelled the Samouni house killing over 25 members of the same family).
Does anyone stop and ask: even if there was a Hamas official inside the house, is killing ten innocent civilians to take out one official who is obviously under Israeli surveillance justified? Isn't that exactly what the Goldstone report highlighted? Israel has a choice when it decides to hit whether this strike is worth the gain -- if the aim is to take the target out, can they achieve it another time when he is not with his entire family? If the situation was reversed and Palestinian fighters struck a house of an Israeli Army commander, killing him, his mother, his wife and four children, would the media so blindly accept the justification of this being a legitimate target?
The missing context is key. Hamas rocket fire is not a response to the last missile; it's a reaction to six years of siege, bombardment, assassinations, entrapment. The missiles from Israel are not in response to today's rocket fire at Ashkelon; it's the years of rocket fire on communities in Southern Israel. The trigger to this war was an assassination, but the war has been coming for at least two and a half years.
In the end the big question is when will all this end. The simple answer is a ceasefire will come -- just like it did in all Israel's wars -- when Israel deems the job done and feels that Gaza has been punished enough. And this time I do mean Gaza.
Sentiment: Strong Buy
I think Israel should take Gaza back piece by piece (only what they can defend) until those fools come to realize they will lose it all. To the victor belong the spoils. By the way, where is this peace loving U.N. the libs love so much.