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  • craigsswanndo craigsswanndo Nov 20, 2012 8:20 PM Flag

    O/T How Do We Stop The Entitlement Society

    We can't now that Obama has 4 more years,, there are more people every day signing up for free shiet,, funny,, I don't get free shiet but I have to pay for it,, what the fk is that,, He and the social tramps have made it so easy to get entitlements,, why would anyone in their right mind get a job,, eventually there is not going to be enough money to go around and then the parasites that don't need will suffer,, problem is that the folks that really need help will suffer as well,,
    How do you stop it,, I don't think we can now and that was the whole plan from the start 4 years ago,,
    We are in a new era for the US,, PRIDE is now gone,,
    C

    Sentiment: Hold

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    • Oh goody,, my day is now complete as I have been lamb basted by Keep and Elk,,
      You guys are just on the other side of the fence and think you are right,, well, I think I am right too so somehow we come to the middle to save our country,, but, at some point in time, eventually you run out of other peoples money with the Robin Hood thing,,
      C

      Sentiment: Hold

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      • Re: "…but, at some point in time, eventually you run out of other peoples money with the Robin Hood thing,, C"

        craig, you speak as though it is still not totally clear that the wealthy have been succeeding in a class war for at least 3 decades wherein they have managed a massive redistribution of wealth in their favor with enough money left over to buy just about anything including paying lobbyists and PR people very well to talk as if class war does not exist in the US and that to even suggest it is virtually treasonous at the same time as they receive huge subsidies and big tax breaks and have their talking heads trying to convince people who really need some help, f.i. food to survive, basic health care, that to receive it will only weaken them and make them truly despicable parasites.

        So, craig, how can you or anyone else justify, for instance, hedge fund managers getting annual salaries of $hundreds of millions and in some cases a $billion or more and paying only 14% in taxes? And what is worse is that they bought and paid for Congress to make it totally legal. Massive amounts of money virtually robbed from all of us in broad daylight. How do you not get angry over that very well entrenched facet of our society?

        Having succeeded so marvelously they now pay for others to hide their gargantuan swindle, which now stands as the greatest Welfare coup in the history of mankind, while they accuse the truly weak and poor of wanting a Welfare state. That, of course, can't be tolerated because the wealthy have already co-opted for themselves a much more beneficent Welfare system which they do their best to make believe doesn't exist.

        Really, craig, don't you get tired of squinting through your thick magnifying glass intently searching for and focusing in on any minutia that will serve to inflate your racist demonizing of the weak and poor?

        Sentiment: Strong Buy

      • "but, at some point in time, eventually you run out of other peoples money with the Robin Hood thing,,"

        Doc, have you told Mitt, big oil, farmers, etc, about this, too. And you know that Mitt most likely paid zero taxes for at least ten years, else why wouldn't he produce those tax returns. What the poor get in handouts pales in comparison to what the 1% take, then add in the subsidies corporations get and you'll see who's the real takers in society.
        By the way, the Dems won, so accept it, or just be a miserable old scrooge, its your choice.

        Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • Doc
      you answered your own question"eventually there is not going to be enough money to go around and then the parasites that don't need will suffer,, problem is that the folks that really need help will
      suffer as well,,"

    • Well Dr. C, it sounds like you are back to your old self!

    • I don't post here much. I try to go on to read about ACTC but every time I'm here I read about you so call conservative ranting about entitlement. How delusional are you.. "Free rides"-are you talking about the 1% guys and their "credit swap" that made them hundreds of millions and put thousands out of jobs and homes and nearly put us in a depression? ..and all you talk about are "entitlement" and "free rides" from the poor that if added up will take generations to equal the "entiltlements" that you so call conservatives have given them. BTW I am a conservative and a republican but with common sense...

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      • This is the first time I've wasted my time to post. Love the long term potential of this stock BTW! I won't dispute some of the things stated about the 1%. But those who believe tax the 1% more and this will all go away are delusional. This mess is a long time coming. Mostly driven by Entitlement America not the greed of the 1%. Everyone I mean everyone will be paying much higher taxes. On top of that, we need to make massive cuts to entitlements. This has all the signs of Socialism or class warfare if we don't get serious in short order.

        Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • Re: "We can't now that Obama has 4 more years,, there are more people every day signing up for free shiet,, funny,, I don't get free shiet but I have to pay for it,, what the fk is that,, He and the social tramps have made it so easy to get entitlements,, why would anyone in their right mind get a job,, eventually there is not going to be enough money to go around and then the parasites that don't need will suffer,, problem is that the folks that really need help will suffer as well,,
      How do you stop it,, I don't think we can now and that was the whole plan from the start 4 years ago,, We are in a new era for the US,, PRIDE is now gone,, C"

      You are right, craig, but truly it is your kind of false PRIDE that is now gone so just suck it up and get over it. You and others here have been trying to thrive on and thought you would win an election by talking about "social tramps" and "parasites" who are spending all of their time stealing entitlements. And, at best, you really think there is not enough money (as if that is the essential limiting factor) for everyone to live a reasonably productive and dignified life. There are a certain per cent of psychopaths in every sphere of the social landscape but you focus intensely and solely on those of the poor, and as well black and brown (though, to be sure, in code). There is really a much higher percent of psychopaths and parasites in the 1% (who are doing a lot more damage to our nation's economy in the service of their own benefit than the poor could even think of doing even in their most insane fantasies), but since the 1% have the requisite money (crucial by your standards) you have to believe that they constitute only the most wonderful and beneficent class of people and you never direct any of your critical faculties in their direction, even as most of them screw as many of us as they can (and they are in position to succeed at a lot more crime than all of the poor put together, and they do so quite successfully).

      And as relatively wealthy as you are in your own neighborhood you still have to keep harping constantly on those down your street or across town who's free sheit you feel you have to constantly pay for, as if your life is so tough ( and their lives in the ghetto are so glorious). You can relate to them and generate anger, mostly false, at them but the 1% who are much more successful in robbing all of us and our country get a free pass because they are too far away and too inaccessible, behind their walled in mansions and PR folk, for any of us to touch in any way. They can afford to have a comfortable laugh at any such notions or attempts; really, they have become so wealthy and powerful none of us can reach them in any way if they so desire. So we may as well not even see them and it's better to vent our anger elsewhere, even if falsely so. We can feel somewhat better, and be a lot safer, venting our anger by beating the sheit out of the poor and weak (whether verbally or physically, ie starvation, disease, etc.). And although not so true in West Virginia, still it helps you and your friends to see the poor and weak as mostly black and brown "parasites" and "social tramps." That allows seeing them as despicable and deserving of contempt. Nevertheless, in any given week you can look at court cases wherein corporations have settled on $millions, hundreds of $millions, and sometime $billions in settlements for their robberies, often at great losses to cities + towns, counties + states, around the world, and often resulting in great suffering to the people in those local communities. And for the most part, we can note, no one goes to jail for these often egregious and far reaching crimes, which cause far more suffering than any you can attribute to poor "parasites." (BP just settled for a $4B payment on the Gulf oil spill disaster [which involved several deaths and injuries and absolutely incredible damages to local communities and small businesses as well as the Gulf] and the next day announced a $4.5B share buy back to stabilize their share price. No one, of course, went to jail.).

      Yes, craig, there are some psychopaths amongst the poor but there is a much higher per cent of psychopaths amongst the 1% and they have the power, and some of them have the requisite unbounded greed, to very much undermine and be a lot more destructive to our economy and our society than all of the poor put together.

      And, of course, if we are not careful, making a habit of this kind of misplaced anger can become a family matter. As Orwell noted, we express at our loved ones the anger we can't express at our enemies because our enemies are too far away.

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • Here's some irony, first step is back to the Clinton welfare reform program. The nations first black president understood that it helps no one to create a permanent under class.

    • Who are these "social tramps" that, as your put it, "have made it so easy to get entitlements?"

      Also, is it any easier today obtain, for example, food stamps than it was in 1980? 1990? And what about subsidized housing projects? How is it easier to get into one (or die in one) than it was 10 years ago, or 30 years ago?

      From reading your posts, I believe you do not know jack s.

      Sentiment: Buy

    • Doc, ya have to make your daily bigoted rant, don't ya? But you're right about entitlements, as WV and the rest of the deep South take far more than they give. So maybe us up North should let you Southern's secede from the Union, then we'll get to keep a lot more for ourselves.
      PS: Here's an idea; instead of always tearing down the poor of WV, why don't you try working with them so that they become more self sufficent and productive, you know, like you, except without the racism and bigotry.

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

 
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