Re: "Blue, what could you possibly find funny about this! It is now pretty clear that Ambassador Rice was used by the administration - my gut tells me that she probably knew it but was a good solider. Regardless of the Susan Rice sideshow aspect of this there are real issues that need to be addresed. I asked you a few weeks ago if you were really satisfied with the administrations explanation so far - any thoughts!?"
nobeach, no doubt you are convinced this is the genuine backstory because you must remember the good old days when you must have been out there waging the good fight against an even much more dastardly stabbing in the back of a "good soldier" who was sent, in fact, to the UN by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc., to pave the way for the invasion of Iraq.
But as you continue to make clear, the invasion of Iraq will most certainly pale in importance when compared to Benghazi.
Elk, a discussion with you is a waste of time. You want to discuss Iraq or any other issue then post it you might even find that i agree with you on certain things But shut the #$%$ already by trying to avoid legitimate issues by throwing up non sequitors. A dead ambassador is a real issue. I don't know what happened and neither do you - that's the point.
Re: "Elk, a discussion with you is a waste of time. You want to discuss Iraq or any other issue then post it you might even find that i agree with you on certain things But shut the #$%$ already by trying to avoid legitimate issues by throwing up non sequitors. A DEAD AMBASSADOR IS A REAL ISSUE. I don't know what happened and neither do you - that's the point."
nobeach, what about the three other dead and, as well, the dead in the left out additional point made by Ricks:
RICKS: I think that Benghazi, generally, was hyped by this network especially. And now that the campaign is over, I think [McCain's] backing off a little bit…
FOX HOST: When you have four people dead, including the first US ambassador in more than thirty years, how do you call that hype?
RICKS: How many security contractors died in Iraq, do you know?
FOX HOST: I don’t.
RICKS: No, nobody does, because nobody cared. We know that several hundred died, but there was never an official count done of security contractors dead in Iraq. So when I see this focus on what was essentially a small firefight, I think number one: I’ve covered a lot of firefights, it’s impossible to figure out what happens in them sometimes. And second, I think that the emphasis on Benghazi has been extremely political, partly because Fox was operating as a wing of the Republican party.
FOX HOST: All right. Tom Ricks, thanks very much for joining us today.
Further, what about innocent civilians killed in Iraq and Afghanistan wherein estimates number from 100,000 to 1,000,000 with the extremely well done Lancet survey putting the number at over 600,000. Many of them being, of course, farmers, shopkeepers, women, and children.
And what adds to the poignancy of such unknown (to us) dead civilians and private security contractors (be they Iraqi, Afghani, Libyan, or American) is that Ambassador Stevens did seem to be the genuine thing, a person who was willing to expose himself to danger in his desire to learn about and interact in a real way with the people of Libya. By all accounts, he was the kind of person who would have said that all of these other unknown dead were as important as he was. That, indeed, is why all over Libya there were Libyan people mourning his loss and demonstrating in support of his work in Libya. It is not hard to imagine Stevens saying that if you are going to hype my death then also have enough integrity to hype all these other deaths and fully understand their significance, as well.