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  • craigsswanndo craigsswanndo Dec 3, 2012 5:30 PM Flag

    O/T- We Need A Leader

    President Obama needs to come out on TV and tell we the people that we are in debt, that we have a spending problem and we need to raise taxes,, He needs to tell us that entitlements need to be cut and which ones and he needs to tell us that everyone needs to pay more taxes in order to get this country under control before we look like Greece,, He needs to be a leader and come out and tell us the truth, not as a democrat or republican but as our president,, we cannot kick the can down the road to our children and grandchildren,, that is just not right,, put all politics aside and do the right thing,imo,,
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    Sentiment: Hold

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    • A leader? No, what we need is a White Revolution in this country, where ethnic cleansing takes place on the streets.

    • Blue,, what the hell does that have to do with President Obama being a leader?,,
      C

      Sentiment: Hold

    • Doc, they don't seem to get what you mean by leadership.

    • Doc, President Obama already stated what needs to be done, you just need to listen, and quit listening to those nutjobs on Fox. The repubs are the ones lacking in leadership, because they want to return to their old ways, which put us in this mess in the first place.
      Obama won the election, and the repubs better start doing the right thing by the American public, or they'll cease to exsist as a viable party.

    • I hope you did not miss the point that President Obama has all pwoer now and he needs to be a leader and he is not,, pi*s*s on democrats and republicans,, He is OUR president and he needs to get off his a*s*s and tell them what to do period,, he is our last hope,, course we have a month for him to shine,,
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      • Re: "I hope you did not miss the point that President Obama has all pwoer now and he needs to be a leader and he is not,, pi*s*s on democrats and republicans,, He is OUR president and he needs to get off his a*s*s and tell them what to do period,, he is our last hope,, course we have a month for him to shine,, C"

        The point that you miss, craig, is that President Obama stated what he wants and then won an election on that basis. If the Republicans still don't want to come around then it is they who are going to have lay out with specifics what they want. Of course, they don't want to do that because they now know that what they wanted is very unpopular with the American people so they don't want to have to lay it out, even in a somewhat compromised version. But it seems clear they will have to be the ones to do so or take responsibility for forcing us over the so called fiscal cliff.

        Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • Re: "President Obama needs to come out on TV and tell we the people that we are in debt, that we have a spending problem and we need to raise taxes,, He needs to tell us that entitlements need to be cut and which ones and he needs to tell us that everyone needs to pay more taxes in order to get this country under control before we look like Greece,, He needs to be a leader and come out and tell us the truth, not as a democrat or republican but as our president,, we cannot kick the can down the road to our children and grandchildren,, that is just not right,, put all politics aside and do the right thing,imo,, C"

      You're right, craig, the GOP does need a leader. However, on current negotiations:

      ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

      Republican Temper Are Tantrums Getting Boring

      Joe Klein, Nov. 30, 2012, Time Magazine

      The Republicans are, reportedly, outraged by President Obama’s opening bid in the fiscal cliff talks. Republicans always seem to be outraged. It’s getting boring. They need to step up and make a counter-offer.

      That’s how people negotiate. In this case, they need to be specific about the spending cuts they want. When their specific initial offer is on the table, then you can haggle. (Of course, it’s entirely possible that all this is a smokescreen and actual haggling is taking place privately, between John Boehner and the President.)

      But it is time to stow the Republican intemperance. It might have seemed “righteous” indignation when the GOP was deluding itself about representing a majority of Americans; now, it just seem puerile and petulant. Take, for example, this little outburst by Charles Krauthammer, in which the Administration’s opening bid is compared, unfavorably, to the unconditional surrender imposed on the South at Appamatox. Oh please. Does he really believe this infantile foot-stomping–the Republicans should walk out of the talks!–is going to be effective? Maybe so, given the fact that he’s lost his mind about so many other things in recent years.

      What is difficult for the Fox talking heads to understand is this: We had an election. The President won. This gives him greater leverage than the last election we had, in 2010, when the President’s party lost. It isn’t absolute leverage, obviously, but it’s more than he had.  Wise Republicans know this score–and will negotiate as hard as they can to match the revenue increases with reasonable long-term entitlement cuts.

      I suspect that we’ll go through the motions, clock ticking, right down thru Christmas week, creeping up till the New Year. Then we’ll have a last minute deal that includes slightly higher tax rates for the wealthy, entitlement cuts (including means-testing for old age entitlements)  and the promise to sit down and figure out a broader tax reform, reducing the corporate tax rate in return for loophole closings, next year.

      But the assorted Republican drama queens seem so two months ago, don’t they?

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

 
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