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  • bluecloud1013 bluecloud1013 Dec 9, 2012 7:25 PM Flag

    Tell me more about how "Guns don't kill people"


    Latest victim... 7-year-old died in the parking lot of a western Pennsylvania gun store on Saturday...

    The 5,740 children and teens killed by guns in 2008 and 2009:
    • Would fill more than 229 public school classrooms of 25 students each;
    • Was greater than the number of U.S. military personnel killed in action in Iraq and Afghanistan (5,013)

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    • The world is awash with firearms, and that the numbers continue to increase. Voices cry for something to be done, but what can be done..... what will be done?

      The National Rifle Association frequently remarks, “Guns don’t kill people, people do.” According to this view, a gun....... designed to kill..... doesn’t kill by itself. A person has to pull the trigger, intentionally or by accident. Also, some folks would argue guns make it easier for people to kill people.

      The problem of people killing people will not be solved by removing guns from the hands of those intent on murder. Crime is a social problem..... not a hardware problem. The solution involves changing the attitudes and disposition of people themselves.

      • 2 Replies to beareclawe
      • You're right bear, it's not the item used it's the mental issue at hand.

        Take the guns away and all you get is more law abiding people at the mercy of the criminal.

        This person could have done more damage in less time running through the school halls with a large kitchen knife, funny, I can't see these same people against guns standing up to make strict kitchen knife laws.

        The people against guns have been programed by the media and don't even realize it. :(

      • Of course you are correct, but the truth is a much harder issue to deal with so it's easier for folks to look for a quick solution. So like so many problems in this country we find a boogie man to blame and then we can all rest easy and feel good about ourselves that if we could just get rid of the boogie man. And of course if we can agree on who or what is the boogie man it makes it so nice for politicians and advocacy groups to profit with relative ease.

    • Nice call Bluecloud. It attitude like Scuba Clowns that endager our society. We need to make sure that numnutts are not running around with weapons and unfortunately thats who buys many of the.

    • Can't wait for the football game tonight to see if Bob Costa tells us to ban cars and alcohol. We probably need to ban sleeping pills, ropes, knives, bombs, mortars, tanks, trains, planes and on and on and on. What I would really like to see is the sell of more electric chairs. That way we would be assured that when a person kills someone else, regardless of the weapon used, they would never kill anyone else.

    • Yes, it's true, blue. Obviously guns were developed to make killing a lot easier so we have to understand that much more killing gets done precisely because it has become so much easier to do. And the ease of killing has increased over time even for regular citizens. Guns are lighter, smaller, or larger if you want, semi-automatic if you want, much bigger cartridges if you want, better scopes if you want, etc. But why should making killing easier for the average guy stop at this still somewhat primitive level of handguns or semi-automatics since the technology of these things will continue to develop and especially since it is quite true that people, not guns, per se, do the killing. Lets set the blame properly and get over it and be prepared to deal with any resulting problems as we avidly move ahead and achieve the much higher, more august and much more self-fulfilling level of something like being able to walk around with legal nuclear weapons in our pockets.

      And, whatever problems that might bring (i.e. like some crazed drunk, maybe recently jilted or fired and back drinking it off in a local bar suddenly lapsing into a fit of anger and thoughtlessly blowing up the whole town and maybe the one next door and part of the city across the river.......or maybe just a mild mannered guy watching tv in the living room with his family who has an epileptic seizure wherein his hand ends up in his pocket and somehow sets off his dearly purchased, prized, beloved, and well cared for nuclear hand grenade that he usually keeps in its grenade case mounted prominently on the living room wall----neither guy would survive, of course, so they would also pay a price, but if by some miracle they did, we could be fairly sure they would both say they were very sorry for what they did to thousands or maybe hundreds of thousands of fellow victims, so that, in itself, is a somewhat mitigating factor in favor of human nature that should be brought to bear in any judgment of their behavior:). And surely, again, we would have to take care to place the blame properly and not over react (i.e. do something silly like take away or outlaw personal pocket nuclear weapons) since it will still certainly be the case that people, not nuclear weapons, do the killing.

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • You are fightin a battle that was lost along time ago,,

      Sentiment: Hold