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  • bluecloud1013 bluecloud1013 Dec 13, 2012 2:27 AM Flag

    Another Bible Lesson for Fraudz

     

    I don't believe in Prosperty theology, I see wealth and material items as Jesus did, an obstruction to my faith. Prosperity theology (also known as the "health and wealth gospel") is a Christian religious belief whose proponents claim the Bible teaches that financial blessing is the will of God for Christians. Most teachers of prosperity theology maintain that a combination of faith, positive speech, and donations to Christian ministries will always cause an increase in material wealth for those who practice these actions. Prosperity theology is almost always taught in conjunction with continuationism.

    Prosperity theology first came to prominence in the United States during the Healing Revivals in the 1950s. Some commentators have linked the genesis of prosperity theology with the influence of the New Thought movement. It later figured prominently in the Word of Faith movement and 1980s televangelism. In the 1990s and 2000s, it became accepted by many influential leaders in the charismatic movement and has been promoted by Christian missionaries throughout the world. It has been harshly criticized by leaders of mainstream evangelicalism as a non-scriptural doctrine or as an outright HERESY!

    Matt 6 : 24 "No one can be a slave of two masters, he will hate one and love the other, he will be loyal to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money".

    Mark 10:23-27

    23 Then Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, ‘How hard it will be for those who have wealth to enter the kingdom of God!’ 24And the disciples were perplexed at these words. But Jesus said to them again, ‘Children, how hard it is* to enter the kingdom of God! 25It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.’ 26They were greatly astounded and said to one another,* ‘Then who can be saved?’ 27Jesus looked at them and said, ‘For mortals it is impossible, but not for God; for God all things are possible.’

    Proverbs 23:4-5

    "Do not wear yourself out to get rich; have the wisdom to show restraint. Cast but a glance at riches, and they are gone, for they will surely sprout wings and fly off to the sky like an eagle. "

    Matthew 19:21

    21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

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    • "I don't believe in Prosperty theology, I see wealth and material items as Jesus did, an obstruction to my faith"

      Blue - So why would you even bother investing in the stock market? I'm fine with it if that's what you want to do but it would seem to contrdict a core value of yours.

    • Blue, I'm not able to recite bible verse but what is the logical and practicle outcome of this? Taken in absolute terms, human kind would likely never have advanced because profit and wealth is the motivator behind innovation and without that we'd all still be living in huts. It is human nature to pursue and aspire to create and you need wealth, capital and markets to do that. How boring a place it would be if man didn't have these desires? That doesn't mean that the more fortunate shouldnt help others - I think the bible does make that clear. But God woulnt have allowed all these resources to be here if he didn't want us to do something with them.

      I think you're taking this far, far too literally. And if you believe strongly in all this, wouldnt the stock market be the house of sin? If wealth is wrong then why is the Catholic church one of the worlds wealthiest entities? And I believe that many people can love God and still be wealthy.

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      • Keep, I don't believe that capitalism, wealth, the stock market etc are sinful at all. I just question someone indulging in the market while pulling out bible verses suggesting that not only wealth, but the very pursuit of wealth is sinful. That is hipocracy - to believe its sinful and to participate nonetheless.

        And being wealthy and not believing is no worse then being poor and not believing. Using the church soley to become wealthy is the worst kind of theft.

        Doc, I agree wholeheartedly with you on the bible. I believe it is a good guide on how to live ones life but trying to use strict interpretation for modern life is folly. And more so, using the bible to justify activities that others find immoral is self deception at best and repugnant in the extreme.

      • "And if you believe strongly in all this, wouldnt the stock market be the house of sin?"

        Oh, but it is a house of sin, that many of us all gamble in. Here's what Jesus thought of money grubbers like many of us are; "Jesus calls money “unrighteous” because when we live for it, it makes us evil."

        "If wealth is wrong then why is the Catholic church one of the worlds wealthiest entities?"

        Good point, but some may even say its hypocrisy, also.

        "And I believe that many people can love God and still be wealthy."

        Ahh, but some may not believe and still become wealthy, too, a little dilemma going on here.

      • Beach,, unless you have a library and speak 10 different ancient languages then it is really difficult to understand the early meanings of the bible,, however many people don't have that understanding,,
        C

        Sentiment: Hold

 
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