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  • lonesome_polecatt lonesome_polecatt Mar 8, 2013 3:04 PM Flag

    The messiah and his glassy eyed followers think government services come out of thin air.

     

    And who paid for all of those public systems? Do people on welfare, like the socialists on this BBS pay for them? No. People who create wealth pay for all of our public works and services. Without wealth there is nothing but mud roads and no services.

    Taxes pay for government services and who pays taxes? The wealthy pay about 70% of these taxes and the people they employ and pay a salary, pay the rest of the taxes.

    These services, unlike the messiah and his useful fools believe, don't come out of thin air.

    Tell me where I'm wrong. Tell me where government gets its money and who provides this money if not businesses and their salaried employees.

    I know it will be impossible for the loons on the left but please try and stay on topic.

    I was going to ask another question but their attention span is so short. I don't think they can handle it. As it is they refuse to give direct answers to simple questions, like why won't the messiah help his brother? I have never gotten a straight answer to that horribly complicated question.

    Sentiment: Hold

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    • Actually, poleo, I did come across an article that points out how tough life can be for those wealthy hard working folk who help us all so much with their trickle down (as you well know because of the closeness you like to maintain to their various orifices) :

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      10 Hardest Things About Being Insanely Rich
      The shame … the discrimination … the anguish over having to fire domestic help to keep one's girlfriend happy. It's a daily trial.

      March 7, 2013  |  The Guardian / By Zoe Williams 

      1. THE SHAME

      According to Nigel Nicholson, a psychologist at the London Business School, you may feel overwhelmed with feelings of guilt that others don't have as much as you, or paranoia that others envy you. This is known as "rich man's burden" – it sometimes leads to panic reactions, like philanthropic urges, which business school psychologists (who knew?) can teach you how to overcome with relaxing exercises.

      2. THE DISCRIMINATION

      Privately educated people proliferate at elite universities and thence to hotly contested careers, which is as it should be, since their grades are so good – it is nevertheless tragic to note the bitterness with which some outsiders greet this state of affairs. The attitude of some proles to private schools has become a "hatred that dare not speak its name", according to Anthony Seldon, master of Wellington College. Some proles piped up: "But Anthony, we do dare! We do hate this outrageously raked playing field", but luckily he couldn't hear them, because they don't enunciate.

      3. SOMETIMES WHEN PEOPLE GUESSTIMATE YOUR RICHES, THEY GET IT WRONG

      Prince Alwaleed bin Talal was distraught to learn that Forbes put his wealth at £13bn when it was actually nearer £20bn. And this was after he showed them his books! It's too vexing, you can sue them, they might apologise, but the hurt never goes.

      4. IF YOU WANT TO BE AN ACTOR, YOU WILL ONLY BE CAST AS A POSHO

      It's unfair for two reasons – first, you can do all the accents; you went to drama school like anybody else. Second, if you give up and audition for the posho, you have to fight Dominic West and Damian Lewis for it, and they both went to Eton where they learned to fight with a complicated stick.

      5. THE ENDLESS ADMIN

      People who just buy sandwiches and stuff tend not to understand that, when you buy something large like an island, it takes ages. Which is vexing, because once you've decided you want it, much like a sandwich, you tend to want it straight away.

      6. WHEN YOU ARE A BANKER, PEOPLE BLAME YOU FOR THE BANKING SYSTEM

      This is actually not fair. Your salary is a symptom of a totally rotten system, in which profits generated correspond to no concrete value in the real world, leastways not until some taxpaying schmuck has to make sure you're good for it, and not the cause.

      7. AND JUST WHEN YOU'D BATTENED DOWN THE HATCHES AND WERE MINDING YOUR OWN BUSINESS …

      Someone wants to take your money away. "Tax", they call it. When you never even use their #$%$ roads, and their pathetic, smelly, quite stained social fabric. These tiny people despise your creativity, so you despise them right back. Then you have to move countries, stateless, nomadic, with the anguished soul of the refugee.

      8. SOME PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO AREN'T RICH, HAVE NO IDEA HOW SMALL A £2M HOUSE CAN BE

      Mansion? YOU CALL THIS A MANSION? I wouldn't make my enemy's dog live in it, it's not even near a park.

      9. YOU CAN'T GET THE STAFF (PART 1)

      "Share or protect", they told us in sociology 101. We can handle that; we are cool with nannies who double up as bodyguards. But did you know that when a Norland nanny gets trained in taekwondo, her hourly rate actually goes up? Talk about predatory pricing.

      10. YOU CAN'T GET THE STAFF (PART 2)

      I had a cleaner once, and she was way more qualified than me, and probably more intelligent, as I'd have been able to tell, were I bilingual (as she was). She picked up my underpants for 13 years while never displaying any bitterness. But she didn't get on with my girlfriend so I fired her. No, really. It's annoying.

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • My problem is not that I pay Taxes, it is necessary to sustain a Nation, but the question is how much is enough. I am not a Rich person, but pay over 50% of my income in Taxes (Fed, SS, Real estate, sales, etc). The Government wants more. They are laying off people in the USA because of Sequestration, yet giving money in the Billions to Egypt, Afghanistan, Iraq. We need to help our Poor, but to keep throwing money at people for Welfare that do not pay taxes, have never paid taxes and have made collecting Welfare a way of Life for Generations is absurd. The only answer that the Government has is to tax people that work more. I would love to be able to leave my own Children some of my earned Income, but the Obama Administration thinks we need to give it to his people to dole out as they see fit.

      Sentiment: Hold

    • Re: "...Taxes pay for government services and who pays taxes? The wealthy pay about 70% of these taxes and the people they employ and pay a salary, pay the rest of the taxes. ...."

      Right, poleo, the wealthy pay about 70% of the taxes and because they could afford to rig the system they hold 80% of the financial assets. Looks they are coming out nicely ahead to me.

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • perfect example showing how stupid libs are.....

    • While you may not be wrong as regards the bits you address, you are not accurate or correct, in the whole, either.

      As regards where your government gets its money, your government makes its own money. Always has, always will. You tax dollars are for two purposes. One is to offset the need for your government prints its own money or plunder a neighbor nation state for needed riches, which ever is less inconvenient. Two is to cause you to 'buy in to'/'be invested in' your own nation state, because, if you do, you'll tend to be a better citizen than you would otherwise.

      As regards business and employees, not the only source of revenue to the state. You need to get out more on this point, as current political pundits are putting you in blinders.

      As regards messiahs, there are none. Only mere mortals you and yours elevate to a station of absurd and to compensate for your own short-comings.

 
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