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  • craigsswanndo craigsswanndo Mar 14, 2013 9:18 PM Flag

    O/T- HATE and EVIL

     

    His Holiness, Pope Francis, newly elected by God inspired Cardinals,, what could be more pure in this sense,, yet there are people in this world full of evil and hate that would have nothing but bad remarks to say about a man that wants nothing more but to pray for your soul,, There has been much turmoil in the Catholic Church for several years with yet evil so called holy men that pose as priests and have hurt many,, in addition, there is politics in the Church as is in any organized religion,, time will tell the tale of Francis and his pontificate as to what will become to rid the Church of evil and hate,, goodness always overcomes and the initial actions of Francis shows nothing but goodness,,

    C

    Sentiment: Hold

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    • With all the talk about abortion, well there is no grey area,, life spiritually begins at conception,, this especially is true if you understand the basis for Christianity,, and Mary was overcome by God and made with child,, the child Jesus was conceived,, so, if you are of the Christian faith, then life starts with a sperm and an egg,, therefore, any abortion is considered killing of a child,, there is no grey area,, and also, birth control pills work by not letting the already fertilized egg implant, so therefore, it is aborted,, so for arguments sake, there is no rational difference,,
      C

      Sentiment: Hold

    • Craig, what say you Fraudleyz, poleo, and many others here who keep harping on the supposedly "freeloading, shifltess, parasitic, lazy, no good poor." The main message of the life of Pope Francis so far has been concern, love and care for the poor.

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      FRANCIS REVERED AS 'SLUM POPE' BY POOR ARGENTINES

      The Associated Press, Friday, Mar. 15, 2013 6:41AM EDT

      BUENOS AIRES, Argentina -- For more than a billion Roman Catholics worldwide, he's Pope Francis. For Argentina's poorest citizens, crowded in "misery villages" throughout the capital, he's proudly known as one of their own, a true "slum pope."

      Villa 21-24 is a slum so dangerous that most outsiders don't dare enter, but residents say Jorge Mario Bergoglio often showed up unannounced to share laughs and sips of mate, the traditional Argentine herbal tea shared by groups using a common straw.

      People here recall how the Buenos Aires archbishop would arrive on a bus and walk through the mud to reach their little chapel; how he sponsored marathons and carpentry classes, consoled single mothers and washed the feet of recovering drug addicts; how he became one of them.

      "Four years ago, I was at my worst and I needed help. When the Mass started he knelt down and washed my feet. It hit me hard. It was such a beautiful experience," said Cristian Marcelo Reynoso, 27, a garbage collector trying to kick a cocaine addiction through the church's rehab program.

      "When I saw the news on the TV, I began screaming with joy, and look, I'm still trembling," Reynoso said. "El Chaval (The Dude) is so humble. He's a fan of San Lorenzo (the soccer club), like me. You talk to him like a friend."

      Long after he became a cardinal in 2001, this "prince of the church" wore a simple black T-shirt with a white collar. For many at the slum's Caacupe Virgin of the Miracles Church, it's nothing short of a miracle that their friend is the pope.

      "He was always part of our slum," housewife Lidia Valdivieso, 41, said after praying while resting her palm on a statue of St. Expeditus, patron saint of urgent and impossible causes. Her 23-year-old son has cerebral palsy and is learning carpentry at the church's technical school.

      "When I heard the news I couldn't believe it. Having a 'papa villero' (slum pope) is the most beautiful thing that can happen to us. I still remember him going on long walks through our muddy streets or talking to our children," Valdivieso said.
      Inside the concrete block chapel, there's a painted message commemorating Bergoglio's inauguration, and another big painting of Pope John Paul II, but no sign of Benedict XVI whatsoever. Near the altar, there's a large black-and-white poster of Carlos Mugica, an iconic Argentine slum priest who was killed in 1974 by a right-wing death squad intent on eliminating the "liberation theology" he preached.

      Bergoglio never favoured liberation theology because of its alliances with armed leftist guerrilla movements in the 1970s. But he has done much to follow in Mugica's footsteps, sponsoring all sorts of outreach programs in Argentina's slums.
      This can be messy work, obliging priests to challenge drug dealers for the slum-dwellers' allegiances, and putting their beliefs, even their lives, at risk. Sometimes compromises must be made.

      Just a few steps from the chapel, melted candles stand in a red shrine to the pagan folk hero Antonio "Gauchito" Gil, a 19th century outlaw revered among Argentina's poor for sharing his stolen bounty with the poor.

      Many Argentines are as likely to pray for miracles from "Gauchito" as they are from authorized Catholic saints, but Bergoglio didn't object to the shrine's presence next to his chapel.

      "For more than 20 years he came here. He's always been close to us and his impact on this slum is huge," said the parish priest, Lorenzo "Toto" de Vedia.

      TV cameras followed Bergoglio once as he washed the feet of 12 young men at a rehab centre. "Then he kept coming back, taking confession and counselling them," Vedia said. On the priest's desk lay a newspaper with a huge, one-word headline: "FRANCISCO."

      "You can tell that the church is going to change," Vedia said. "The fact that he chose the name Francisco says it all. It says: *Let's stop messing around and devote ourselves to the poor. That was St. Francis* message and now 'Francisco' can live it."

      In his first appearance at St. Peter's Square, the first Latin American pope bowed to the crowds and asked for their blessing. Back in Argentina, his friends in the slums recognized the gesture as the same sort of humility that won their hearts.
      In the 13th century, St. Francis of Assisi made it his mission to respond to the poor and show that through simplicity and love, a stronger foundation for the church could be built.

      Pope Francis' "mission is now to go on a pilgrimage to all lands, to walk with the people, to lead a church that walks," said Mercedes Trovato, 24, a youth volunteer who wore a wooden cross around her neck.

      Bergoglio's friends say he's fundamentally shy. He hardly ever grants media interviews, preferring to speak from the pulpit. But he did agree to chat recently with Jaidr Flores, a 22-year-old host on the parish's Radio FM La 96.

      "He was hesitant at first. But I convinced him, and at the end of the interview, he started laughing and said: "You did it! You got me on air!'" said Flores. "One day I went to visit him at his office and I was amazed to see how many pictures of the volunteers and recovered drug addicts from this community he had on his desk. He truly cares for us."

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • All pedaphiles should have their nuts fed to them, and the so called priests that have done these things should have a hot poker shoved up their rectums, in public, and killed,, there is no use for such men,, but,, just maybe, Francis can change the world for the good and rid us of these monsters,, he symbolizes everything that is Godly and you can see it in his face,, peace for the world,, what a nice concept,,
      C

      Sentiment: Hold

      • 1 Reply to craigsswanndo
      • Peds are 1% of 1% in the entire population-we just exposed them first. Rabbis get busted too (at least in NYC) Peds take vocations and jobs that put them w/kids. The Church policy of quietly re-assigning them and believing that if they repent all is forgiven is something that they took full advantage of. Turning the other cheek on manufacturers defects (and shrinks admit they can't "cure" this), never works and change won't happen until they acknowledge that they are defects and need to be defrocked and disgraced and even crucified ! Secretly the Vatican is hoping there's a stem cell cure for that!!!

    • Craig, he look like he could end up being a good one-some left leaning tendencies, BUT he supported the military junta in Argentina and needs to come clean in a big bad way. God didn't inspire right wing #$%$ to rape, torture and murder tens of thousands of good people who were fighting for social justice (not fighting with guns I ight add). Only holy in the tradition of the Catholic Church, not the civilized world, unless he can prove he had no choice.

      Lars

 
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