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  • craigsswanndo craigsswanndo Jun 7, 2013 5:29 PM Flag

    O/T- Spying on America

    The Patriot Act was bad but this is horrible,, the govt spying on us,, and Obama's reply, well you have to give up some freedoms to be safe,, really,, the politicains are in trouble now,, folks, this is just not right, it is Patriaot beyond steroids and both sides are pi*s*sed off as we should be,, so if you are subscribing to 1-800-spank me,, then it is on the net for everyone to see,,
    Our govt is way beyond large and it needs to be dismantled and go back to basics of our constitution,, we need to vote them all out and start over,, but that is no going to happen because that creep Obama has made it so easy for the slobs and they will vote to get their free shiet,,
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    Sentiment: Hold

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    • 35 YEARS

      Manning Exposed War Crimes, Torture, Abuse, Soldiers Laughing As They Killed Civilians... Leaks Not Responsible For Any Deaths

      U.S. JUSTICE: Only Abu Ghraib Officer Charged With A Crime 'Cleared Of All Responsibility'... TORTURE ARCHITECTS GO FREE...

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • RAND PAUL: NSA SPYING 'UNCONSTITUTIONAL,' CAN'T BE SAVED BY MORE OVERSIGHT

      Amanda Terkel | HuffPost | 08/18/2013

      WASHINGTON -- Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) called for congressional hearings on the National Security Agency's data collection on Sunday, while saying that much of the program is unconstitutional and likely can't be improved by oversight.

      "YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER WITH MORE OVERSIGHT, BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THEY ARE DOING THAT I FUNDAMENTALLY THINK ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL," PAUL SAID ON "FOX NEWS SUNDAY." "OUR FOUNDING FATHERS, WHEN THEY WROTE THE FOURTH AMENDMENT, SAID A SINGLE WARRANT GOES TOWARD A SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL AND WHAT YOU WANT TO LOOK FOR. ... THE CONSTITUTION DOESN'T ALLOW FOR A SINGLE WARRANT TO GET A BILLION PHONE RECORDS. ... THEY BASICALLY, I BELIEVE, ARE LOOKING AT ALL OF THE CELL PHONE CALLS IN AMERICA EVERY DAY."

      Paul, who has become one of the most vocal critics of the NSA's surveillance program, also lamented the one-sided nature of the discussion on the issue. He accused the president -- a former constitutional law professor -- of ignorance about the U.S. Constitution.

      "You know, I think the president fundamentally missunderstands the constitutional separation of powers," he said. "Because the checks and balances are supposed to come from independent branches of government. So he thinks that if he gets some lawyers together from the NSA and they do a Power Point presentation and tell him everything is okay, that the NSA can police themselves. But one of the fundamental things that our founders put in place was they wanted to separate police power from the judiciary power."

      President Barack Obama addressed the NSA's data collection at a news conference on Aug. 9, saying there was no evidence that the agency was abusing its powers.

      "What you’re hearing about is the prospect that these could be abused. Now part of the reason they’re not abused is because they’re -- these checks are in place, and those abuses would be against the law and would be against the orders of the FISC [Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court]," he said.

      But the following week, the Washington Post revealed that the NSA had "broken privacy rules or overstepped its legal authority thousands of times each year since Congress granted the agency broad new powers in 2008, according to an internal audit and other top-secret documents."

      The chief judge on the FISC, U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton, has also admitted that the court's oversight powers are limited.

      “The FISC is forced to rely upon the accuracy of the information that is provided to the Court,” Walton said in a statement to the Post. “The FISC does not have the capacity to investigate issues of noncompliance, and in that respect the FISC is in the same position as any other court when it comes to enforcing [government] compliance with its orders.”

      Paul added on Sunday that he would like to see the Supreme Court take up the issue of the NSA's spying program.

      "So I think the constitutionality of these programs need to be questioned," Paul said, "and there needs to be a Supreme Court decision looking at whether what they're doing is constitutional or not."

      Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), who also appeared on "Fox News Sunday," defended the NSA.

      "I fully disagree with what Sen. Rand Paul said," King stated. "That was just a grab bag of misinformation and distortion. ... And this whole tone of snooping and spying that we use, I think it's horrible. It's really a distortion and a smear and a slander of good, patriotic Americans."

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

      • 1 Reply to elk_1l
      • PETER KING SLAMS RAND PAUL, DEFENDS NSA: ‘TO ME, A SCANDAL IS WHEN A GOVERNMENT AGENCY IS SOMEHOW USING INFORMATION TO HURT PEOPLE’

        Aug. 18, 2013 | Oliver Darcy | The Blaze

        Republican Congressman Peter King slammed Republican Senator Rand Paul over his comments on the National Security Agency (NSA) Sunday morning, moments after the libertarian firebrand appeared on the network calling for an external investigation of the spy agency.

        “THAT WAS JUST A GRAB BAG OF MISINFORMATION AND DISTORTION,” Peter King, the often outspoken New York Congressman, said during an appearance on “Fox News Sunday.”

        ON SATURDAY, PAUL CALLED FOR THE SUPREME COURT TO REVIEW THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THE NSA’S SURVEILLANCE PROGRAMS, arguing congressional hearings and President Obama’s promise to implement new safeguards is not enough to protect the rights of Americans.

        King responded after Paul reportedly echoed those ideas Sunday morning on Fox News.

        “TO ME, A SCANDAL IS WHEN A GOVERNMENT AGENCY IS SOMEHOW USING INFORMATION TO HURT PEOPLE OR GO AFTER THEM,” KING SAID. “WHATEVER MISTAKES WERE MADE WERE INADVERTENT. IF YOU HAVE A 99.99% BATTING AVERAGE, THAT’S BETTER THAN MOST MEDIA PEOPLE DO, MOST POLITICIANS DO.”

        Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • BRADLEY MANNING SENTENCING TESTIMONY SUGGESTS WIKILEAKS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DEATHS

      08/03/2013 | Matt Sledge | HuffPost

      FORT MEADE, Md. -- FOR THREE YEARS BRADLEY MANNING AND JULIAN ASSANGE WERE ACCUSED OF MURDER. MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND THE ADMINISTRATION SAID THEIR WIKILEAKS DOCUMENT DUMP ENDANGERED U.S. INTERESTS -- AND LIVES.

      "Mr. Assange can say whatever he likes about the greater good he thinks he and his source are doing, but the truth is they might already have on their hands the blood of some young soldier or that of an Afghan family," Adm. Mike Mullen, then the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said in July 2010.

      Before a press corps hollowed out to a skeleton crew after Manning's verdict, that insinuation is falling apart. TOP GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS TESTIFYING IN OPEN COURT FOR MANNING'S SENTENCING IN RECENT DAYS HAVE CITED NO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE HIS LEAKS LED DIRECTLY TO ANY DEATHS. THEY HAVE INSTEAD SPOKEN TO DIPLOMATIC SOURCES PLACED AT RISK AND STRAYED FOREIGN RELATIONS. IN THE WORDS OF ONE OFFICIAL, SOME ALLIES GOT "CHESTY."
      The State Department's current, official take on the cables' release may come Monday, as Undersecretary of State Patrick Kennedy testifies in court for a full day on damage caused by the cables. Or Kennedy may once again be forced into closed session to talk about any specifics in yet another example of the secrecy that has shrouded the trial, even in its sentencing phase.

      During the first phase of the trial, the judge overseeing Manning's case prevented the defendant from presenting any evidence against claims that his releases caused any harm. So those revelations, endlessly fought over in the press since WikiLeaks' releases, have all taken place during the sentencing phase of Manning's court martial. They may shave years off his maximum 132.5-year punishment.

      For Assange supporters, meanwhile, the trial testimony comes as long-awaited vindication for the much-vilified WikiLeaks founder. …

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • INVESTIGATE BOOZ ALLEN HAMILTON, NOT EDWARD SNOWDEN

      The firm that formerly employed both the director of national intelligence and the NSA whistleblower merits closer scrutiny

      Pratrap Chatterjee, The Guardian, 06/14/2013

      Military contractor Booz Allen Hamilton of McLean, Virginia, has shot into the news recently over two of its former employees: Edward Snowden, the whistleblower who has just revealed the extent of US global spying on electronic data of ordinary citizens around the world, and James Clapper, US director of national intelligence.
      Clapper has come out vocally to condemn Snowden as a traitor to the public interest and the country, yet a review of Booz Allen's own history suggests that the government should be investigating his former employer, rather than the whistleblower.
      Clapper worked as vice-president at Booz Allen from 1997 to 1998, while Snowden did a three-month stint at their offices in Hawaii in spring 2013 as a low-level contract employee. Both worked on intelligence contracts, which are estimated to make up almost a quarter of the company's $5.86bn in annual income. This past weekend, Clapper condemned Snowden's leak about US government surveillance, telling NBC News's Andrea Mitchell:
      "For me, it is literally – not figuratively – literally gut-wrenching to see this happen because of the huge, grave damage it does to our intelligence capabilities. This is someone who, for whatever reason, has chosen to violate a sacred trust for this country. I think we all feel profoundly offended by that."
      The following day Snowden replied from a hotel in Hong Kong, in an interview with Glenn Greenwald of the Guardian:
      "The government has granted itself power it is not entitled to. There is no public oversight. I realised that I was part of something that was doing far more harm than good."
      Booz Allen reacted with anger in a press statement released hours later:
      "News reports that this individual has claimed to have leaked classified information are shocking, and if accurate, this action represents a grave violation of the code of conduct and core values of our firm."
      Core values? Let's examine Booz Allen Hamilton's track record.
      In February 2012, the US air force suspended Booz Allen from seeking government contracts after it discovered that Joselito Meneses, a former deputy chief of information technology for the air force, had given Booz Allen a hard drive with confidential information about a competitor's contracting on the first day that he went to work for the company in San Antonio, Texas. US air force legal counsel concluded (pdf):
      "Booz Allen did not uncover indications and signals of broader systemic ethical issues within the firm. These events caused the air force to have serious concerns regarding the responsibility of Booz Allen, specifically, its San Antonio office, including its business integrity and honesty, compliance with government contracting requirements, and the adequacy of its ethics program."
      It should be noted that Booz Allen reacted swiftly to the government investigation of the conflict of interest. In April that year, the air force lifted the suspension – but only after Booz Allen had accepted responsibility for the incident and fired Meneses, as well as agreeing to pay the air force $65,000 and reinforce the firm's ethics policy.
      Not everybody was convinced about the new regime. "Unethical behavior brought on by the revolving door created problems for Booz Allen, but now the revolving door may have come to the rescue," wrote Scott Amey of the Project on Government Oversight, noting that Meneses was not the only former air force officer who had subsequently become an executive in Booz Allen's San Antonio office.
      "It couldn't hurt having [former AF people]. Booz is likely exhaling a sigh of relief as it has received billions of dollars in air force contracts over the years."
      Booz Allen has also admitted to overbilling the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (Nasa) "employees at higher job categories than would have been justified by their experience, inflating their monthly hours and submitting excessive billing at their off-site rate." The company repaid the government $325,000 in May 2009 to settle the charges (pdf). Incidentally, both the Nasa and the air force incidents were brought to light by a company whistleblower who informed the government.
      Nor was this the first time Booz Allen had been caught overbilling. In 2006, the company was one of four consulting firms that settled with the Justice Department for fiddling expenses on an industrial scale. Booz Allen's share of the $15m settlement of a lawsuit under the False Claims Act was more than $3.3m.
      The incidents described above could be dismissed as aberrations. What is worthy of note, however, is that Ralph Shrader, the chairman, CEO and president of Booz Allen, came to the company in 1974 after working at two telecommunications companies – Western Union, where he was national director of advanced systems planning, and RCA, where he served in the company's government communications system division.
      Today, those names may not ring a bell, but these two companies took part in a secret surveillance program known as Minaret in the 1970s when they agreed to hand over to the National Security Agency (NSA) all incoming and outgoing US telephone calls and telegrams. In an interview with the Financial Times in 1998, Shrader noted that the most relevant background for his new position of chief executive at Booz Allen was his experience working for telecommunications clients and doing classified military work for the US government.
      Minaret and other such snooping programs led to an explosive series of congressional hearings in 1970s named the Senate select committee to study governmental operations with respect to intelligence activities, chaired by Frank Church of Idaho in 1975.
      Should the latest revelations of massive government surveillance come before Congress again, it might be worth probing Shrader and his company – rather than shooting the messenger, Edward Snowden.
      Finally, Congress would also do well to investigate Clapper, Booz Allen's other famous former employee, for possible perjury when he replied: "No, sir" to Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon in March, when asked:
      "Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?"

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

      • 1 Reply to elk_1l
      • CBS News confirms multiple breaches of Sharyl Attkisson’s computer
        By Erik Wemple, Updated: June 14, 2013

        CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkisson revealed in May that her computer had been compromised. When asked about the situation, CBS News responded with a statement that it was conducting an investigation.

        That investigation has reached the following conclusions, according to CBS News spokeswoman Sonya McNair:

        “A cyber security firm hired by CBS News has determined through forensic analysis that Sharyl Attkisson’s computer was accessed by an unauthorized, external, unknown party on multiple occasions late in 2012. Evidence suggests this party performed all access remotely using Attkisson’s accounts. While no malicious code was found, forensic analysis revealed an intruder had executed commands that appeared to involve search and exfiltration of data.

        This party also used sophisticated methods to remove all possible indications of unauthorized activity, and alter system times to cause further confusion.

        CBS News is taking steps to identify the responsible party and their method of access.”

        More to come on this.

        Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • here is how stupid the libs are - IF it were Bush who were doing this type of spying - they would be delirious with outrage - but since it is their beloved Obama - they say - "no problem".....

      they are his groupies....

    • While I support this program, what I once again find amazing are the Dems and Libroids who demonized Bush over this program are now championing it

    • EDWARD SNOWDEN IS A RON PAUL SUPPORTER

      The Huffington Post  |  By Amanda Terkel, 06/10/2013

      Edward Snowden, the man behind one of the biggest national security leaks in U.S. history, is a fan of former Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas).

      According to campaign finance reports, Snowden donated $250 to the libertarian's presidential campaign twice in 2012. Paul has long railed against government secrecy and intrusion into private life.

      Snowden told The Guardian that he voted for a third-party candidate in 2008, although he was optimistic about President Barack Obama's promises.

      "A lot of people in 2008 voted for Obama. I did not vote for him. I voted for a third party," he said. "But I believed in Obama's promises. I was going to disclose it [but waited because of his election]. He continued with the policies of his predecessor."

      In a statement sent out Monday afternoon, Paul praised both Snowden and Guardian journalist Glen Greenwald: “We should be thankful for individuals like Edward Snowden and Glenn Greenwald who see injustice being carried out by their own government and speak out, despite the risk. They have done a great service to the American people by exposing the truth about what our government is doing in secret."

      The Guardian broke the news last week -- based on documents from Snowden -- that the NSA has been collecting millions of phone records of Verizon customers.

      "I wish I could say I was shocked at the reports the NSA is secretly spying on the private phone calls of millions of Verizon customers," said Paul in a statement. "However, this is a predictable result of a government that continues to erode our liberties while promising some glimmering hope of security."

      Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) introduced a bill on Friday that would prevent the government from obtaining the phone records of Americans without "a warrant based on probable cause."

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • FOX NEWS' RALPH PETERS: 'BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY' FOR EDWARD SNOWDEN

      06/10/2013

      Fox News analyst Ralph Peters said Monday that Edward Snowden's leaks constituted "treason" punishable by execution.
      Peters was speaking to Brian Kilmeade on "Fox and Friends," and argued that no Americans have been hurt by the secret government surveillance programs that Snowden exposed.

      “Now you’ve got this 29-year-old high school dropout whistleblower making foreign policy for our country, our security policy,” he lamented. “It’s sad, Brian. We’ve made treason cool. Betraying your country is kind of a fashion statement. He wants to be the national security Kim Kardashian. He cites Bradley Manning as a hero.”

      Peters continued, “I mean, we need to get very, very serious about treason. And oh by the way, for treason — as in the case of Bradley Manning or Edwards Snowden — you bring back the death penalty.”

      GLENN BECK, WHO HAILED SNOWDEN AS A "HERO," SAID HE WAS "SHOCKED" BY THE COMMENTS ON MONDAY.

      Peters has made similar incendiary remarks in the past, once famously declaring that Julian Assange should be assassinated.

      Snowden revealed himself to be the whistleblower who leaked the National Security Agency's surveillance of Verizon phone records and personal data from Internet firms. He told the Guardian that he left the United States for Hong Kong and stayed in a hotel for three weeks. One hotel revealed that a guest by the name of Edward Snowden had been staying there, but checked out on Monday. It is unclear whether Snowden is still in Hong Kong.

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • TIM BERNERS-LEE CALLS NSA SURVEILLANCE AN 'INTRUSION ON BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS'

      Wired UK, June 10, 2013

      Sir Tim Berners-Lee, inventor of the World Wide Web, has spoken out about the news that the US National Security Agency has access to user data from some of the world's biggest tech companies, saying such government intrusions threaten "the very foundations of a democratic society".

      Berners-Lee made the comments as part of a statement to the Financial Times in response to the NSA's leaked Prism PowerPoint presentation, which outlines data collection programmes involving companies including Facebook, Microsoft, Yahoo!, Apple and AOL.

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • Next there gonna say I can't have nude pix of lil boys bathing each other. I mean what next for god sakes

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