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  • craigsswanndo craigsswanndo Jun 10, 2013 5:13 PM Flag

    O/T-The Lib's Are In Pain

    The only way they can defend themselves is to put out attacks towards us and try and bend the truth,, but, in reality, they see a president that has lost all credibility in his ability to lead and govern,, you cannot trust anything that comes out of his mouth or for that matter trust him at all,, we just hope he has enough morals to not kill us all,, the govt has gone beyond all belief in invading our privacy and it is all on him,, Bush started the Patriot Act but this is gone beyond that and the constitution is being ripped to shreads,, all people are effected and it is to painful for the libs to realize,,that the beloved leader could slap them in the face,, well the SOB needs to go and we must find a way to impeach his sorry a*s*s,, and for that matter, we need to vote out all the stupid incumbents from congress and the senate and put in a new set of clowns,,
    Well, in my reality,, I fear this will not happen and we are stuck with what we have,, so, we must pressure our elected officials to investigate every single detail and make it to where it is a life sentence for anyone that would leak any information on a citizen of the US with the data that has been collected on us,,
    We need to do away with the Gestapo in our country,, and you dumb shiets want to give up your guns,, unbelievable!!

    Sentiment: Hold

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    • libs to the gallows please - all of them - then sprinkled with Obama's ashes - nice....:)

    • No...we want to give up YOUR guns. Craig how do we defend against modern terrorism? The only way is to do what they are doing, scoop the information that is out there. We just have to set limits that the information can only be used for terror related or murder cases and hope for the best.

    • craig, the Libs don't have to attack the Repubs since they have been very busy attacking themselves for quite a while now and are continuing to do so:



      Monday, 10 Jun 2013, Melanie Batley, NewsMax

      Republican standard bearers are speaking out against Edward Snowden, the self-confessed leaker of top-secret documents detailing the National Security Agency's phone and Internet surveillance programs.

      But at the same time, GOP libertarians like Sen. Rand Paul are raising serious questions about the impact of the government's surveillance program on civil liberties.

      New York Rep. Peter King, chairman of the Subcommittee on Counterterrorism and Intelligence, has called for Snowden’s extradition from Hong Kong, where he was last known to be hiding out.

      King said the 29-year-old technical engineer should be "prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."

      Snowden, a former CIA employee who went public Sunday in interviews with The Guardian in the UK and The Washington Post, is hoping to seek political asylum, potentially in Iceland.

      "The United States must make it clear that no country should be granting this individual asylum. This is a matter of extraordinary consequence to American intelligence," King said.

      Donald Trump labeled Snowden a "bad guy."

      "I don't like people like [Snowden] because there could be a national-security concern, and there probably is. At the same time, what he's doing is wrong and I think also what the government is doing is wrong.

      "They're going way too far, [but] at the same time, you never like a guy like this."

      House Republican Whip Kevin McCarthy acknowledged there are two sides to the argument.

      "We want to protect our civil liberties," he said. "But there is a fine line here that we need to have greater accountability and greater transparency, and I think there are going to be a lot of questions asked."

      McCarthy told Fox News he has "a real problem" with the NSA's reach. Yet when asked if Snowden should be treated as a "whistleblower" or be prosecuted, the California congressman said, "I would prosecute. If you're a whistleblower, you don't leave the United States. You don't go to a communist country.

      "If you have grave concerns, then come before Congress."

      House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers said Snowden had "released just enough information to literally be dangerous" and argued Snowden should have taken a different approach if he wanted to instigate change.

      "He could come to the committees, if they had [concerns]. We have [inspector generals] that they can go to in a classified way if they have [concerns]."

      House Majority Leader Eric Cantor told CBS News on Monday that Congress will launch a "very serious" investigation.

      But libertarians in the party have taken a different approach, focusing more on what they see as the government's infringement on civil liberties.

      Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky on Sunday said he wants to mount a class-action lawsuit before the Supreme Court to challenge the federal government's logging of phone calls and Internet activities.

      "I'm going to be asking all the Internet providers and all of the phone companies: Ask your customers to join me in a class-action lawsuit," he said. "If we get 10 million Americans saying we don't want our phone records looked at, then maybe someone will wake up and something will change in Washington."

      Sen. Mike Lee of Utah told Politico, "This is a good example of the fact that this is an issue that is neither Republican or Democrat. It's neither liberal nor conservative. It's simply American."

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • First of all, most libs don't own guns, so there is nothing to give up. BTW, we don't want you to give up your guns either, Mr. drama queen, we want background checks and loopholes closed that that crazy people and dangerous felons can't own guns at all. We want the availability of military style weapons limited to, gee..what do ya think?..THE MILITARY... I can't speak for all lefties, but I am VERY dissapppointed in Barrack W. Bush, and I will not support his agenda anymore. The reason being is that he is acting like a contard and may as well join the GOP. He lies, he raids Medical Pot shops with the DEA, Gitmo is still open and now we know for sure that he has expanded the listening powers of the NSA to new heights. To be fair, he is only doing what the Bush / Cheney's war powers arrangement, that congress approved, allows him too. This president has let me down, but I sure don't regret not voting for romneydoosh. Good Lord, could you imagine? I shudder with the very notion. Canada is looking better and better. Oh and Craig, you can drop the middle of the road claim, you have completed your transistion to the dark side, you are officially one a contard..

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      • Blue,OK,, all libs in WV own guns,, and citizens need not be intruded upon in their gun rights,, throw the criminals in jail for life if they commit a crime with a gun,, I get background checks now,, you won't stop gun running so what is the answer,, the aforementioned idea,,
        I am really pis*s*ed about the reefer plants being ratted upon,, that SOB BHO smoked and more than likely still does ( once a head,then always) and he has the #$%$ nerve to be a gadam hypocrite and send in the goons, fk him,,
        As far as gitmo,, what the hell, ya gotta put them POS's somewhere,, and if they killed us, then torture the shiet out of them,, I bet if we had more criminal going to places like Iran and N korea for prison, then we would have a lot less criminlas,,
        And I'm still mostly in the middle,, my wife bends my arm,,

        Sentiment: Hold