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  • craigsswanndo craigsswanndo Jun 29, 2013 9:53 PM Flag

    O/T- Coal

     

    We in this country can lead the world in trying to clean up pollution, but, the war on coal led by BO, is just stupid,, you can clean things up over a series of several years,, but no, he wants to kill coal,, well, what he is doing is killing jobs in a horrible way, and killing families, towns, is going to cause folks to loose their homes and basically kill the economy of WV,, most of our tax money comes from coal (which keeps the lights on by the way), so our tax structure is going to fail,, the state could well go bankrupt, and he is all to blame,, now what the hell kind of leadership is this,,
    And as a result, what the sam hell are we to use for energy and the energy we get is going to be so expensive that folks are going to go back to burning wood and coal to heat their homes,, and there wont be any scrubbers to capture this pollution and therefore as a result is going to be worse,, I thought he is supposed to be smart,,
    C

    Sentiment: Hold

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    • JOHNS HOPKINS SUSPENDS BLACK LUNG PROGRAM OVER ‘NATIONAL DISGRACE’

      Scott Martelle | truthdig | Nov 5, 2013

      Johns Hopkins University, one of the nation’s premier research institutions for teaching medicine, has SUSPENDED ITS BLACK LUNG PROGRAM FOR A REVIEW AFTER A SERIES OF INVESTIGATIVE REPORTS BY THE CENTER FOR PUBLIC INTEGRITY AND ABC NEWS UNCOVERED STRONG EVIDENCE THAT A SINGLE DOCTOR HAS BEEN GAMING THE SYSTEM FOR YEARS AT THE EXPENSE OF AILING COAL MINERS, MANY IN WEST VIRGINIA, AND TO THE BENEFIT OF COAL COMPANIES.

      The series focuses on Dr. Paul Wheeler, in charge of the Johns Hopkins unit in which coal miners’ X-rays are analyzed to determine whether the workers qualify for disability benefits covering black lung disease. Wheeler told reporters that he was the “go-to” doctor for the coal companies—and with good reason. According to the series:

      In the more than 1,500 cases decided since 2000 in which Wheeler read at least one X-ray, he never once found the severe form of the disease, complicated coal workers’ pneumoconiosis. Other doctors looking at the same X-rays found this advanced stage of the disease in 390 of these cases.
      Since 2000, miners have lost more than 800 cases after doctors saw black lung on an X-ray but Wheeler read the film as negative, diagnoses he continues to defend. This includes 160 cases in which doctors found the complicated form of the disease. When Wheeler weighed in, miners lost nearly 70 percent of the time before administrative law judges. The Labor Department does not have statistics on miners’ win percentage in all cases at this stage for comparison purposes.

      Where other doctors saw black lung, Wheeler often saw evidence of another disease, most commonly tuberculosis or histoplasmosis — an illness caused by a fungus in bird and bat droppings. This was particularly true in cases involving the most serious form of the disease. In two-thirds of cases in which other doctors found complicated black lung, Wheeler attributed the masses in miners’ lungs to TB, the fungal infection or a similar disease.
      The criteria Wheeler applies when reading X-rays are at odds with positions taken by government research agencies, textbooks, peer-reviewed scientific literature and the opinions of many doctors who specialize in detecting the disease, including the chair of the American College of Radiology’s task force on black lung.

      Biopsies or autopsies repeatedly have proven Wheeler wrong. Though Wheeler suggests miners undergo biopsies — surgical procedures to remove a piece of the lung for examination — to prove their cases, such evidence is not required by law, is not considered necessary in most cases and can be medically risky. Still, in more than 100 cases decided since 2000 in which Wheeler offered negative readings, biopsies or autopsies provided undisputed evidence of black lung.

      The revelations sparked a backlash from such political figures as Democratic West Virginia Sen. Jay Rockefeller, who called the conditions “a national disgrace.” His Democratic Senate colleague, Robert P. Casey of Pennsylvania, vowed to push legislation to try to revise the system and offer more safeguards to ailing coal miners.

      The report also drew a scathing response from the United Mine Workers of America. “Whatever penalties or punitive actions that can be taken with respect to Dr. Wheeler should be,” union spokesman Phil Smith told ABC News and the Center for Public Integrity. “But whatever they are, they will pale in comparison to the pain and suffering he has caused thousands of afflicted miners. There is no penalty which will make up for that.”

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • C, it is sad to say but he and his minions just don't care. To top it off it is entirely unnecessary.. The people are slowly catching on to this guy. If this is the only kind of leadership the Dems can put up they are in serious trouble. Even Chris Mathews has blasted him. Now watch all the drones on this board (led by elk) spring to his defense.

    • HALLIBURTON PAYS $200,000 FINE FOR DESTROYING GULF SPILL EVIDENCE

      Democracy Now | 09/19/2013

      The oil giant Halliburton has pleaded guilty to destroying evidence following the 2010 oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. Halliburton will pay the maximum fine of around $200,000 and remain on probation for three years.

      A former Halliburton manager is also facing a new charge of destroying computer simulations conducted after the blast. Halliburton says its own liability for destroying evidence has now been resolved.

      In a statement, the watchdog group Public Citizen criticized the plea deal, saying: "Rather than rubber stamp the plea agreement, the court should have rejected the bargain–basement deal because it fails to hold the corporation accountable for its criminal acts and will not deter future corporate crime."

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • AS VA REPUBLICANS CUE COAL HYSTERIA, HERE ARE A FEW ACTUAL FACTS

      by: lowkell | Sep 20, 2013 | Blue Virginia

      This morning came encouraging news for anyone who cares about: a) human health; b) human well being; c) the future of our planet's habitability (or lack thereof, if we continue on the current path); and d) the transition to a sustainable energy economy (which will still happen, but much more slowly, if the fossil fuel companies and their Republican lackeys get their way). WHAT SANE PERSON COULD OPPOSE HUMAN HEALTH AND WELL BEING, HAVING A HABITABLE PLANET FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, AND BUILDING A PROSPEROUS AND SUSTAINABLE ECONOMY FOR THE 21ST CENTURY AND BEYOND? TAKE ONE GUESS.

      YOU GOT IT: VIRGINIA REPUBLICANS - WHO RECEIVE HUGE SUMS UP CAMPAIGN CA$$ FROM COAL (AND OTHER FOSSIL FUEL) COMPANIES - ARE RATCHETING UP THE HYSTERIA THIS MORNING ABOUT THE "WAR ON COAL." Mark Obenshain, for instance, hyperventilates that "[a]s Attorney General, I'm going to stand up for coal jobs, and for all Virginians, in opposing these overreaching federal regulations that kill jobs and economic opportunity in Virginia." And Ken Cuccinelli goes for his usual wildly-over-the-top, super-hyperbolic approach, Big Lie approach, claiming (falsely) that the modest - and long, long overdue - new rules on future power plants will " crush Virginia jobs and hike energy prices for businesses, families and workers."

      HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THESE STATEMENTS: A) THEY'RE COMPLETE BULL****, ESSENTIALLY NOT AN OUNCE OF TRUTH TO THEM; B) THEY'RE AIMED AT CONTINUING THE COAL COMPANY GRAVY TRAIN - BOATLOADS OF CAMPAIGN CASH
      FROM THE COAL COMPANIES, THAT IS - TO THEIR OWN CAMPAIGNS; and c) did I mention that they're totally full of it?

      HOW ABOUT, INSTEAD OF REPUBLICAN BLATHER AND HYSTERIA, WE LOOK AT A FEW ACTUAL FACTS? I know, what a concept! Anyway, here goes (fully aware that Republicans do NOT care about facts).

      1. "DID THE EPA JUST KILL NEW COAL PLANTS?", MARK OBENSHAIN ASKS? UH, NO. NOT EVEN CLOSE. FOR STARTERS, THESE LONG OVERDUE (GIVEN THAT THE SUPREME COURT BACK IN 2007 ESSENTIALLY ORDERED THE EPA TO ISSUE REGULATIONS ON CO2 EMISSIONS) RULES ONLY COVER NEW COAL-FIRED POWER PLANTS, NOT ON EXISTING ONES. But, you say, that's a big deal, right? Well...see #2 below.

      2. In fact, as the Washington Post's Wonkblog explains: "IT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT NO COAL POWER PLANTS OF ANY TYPE WILL GET BUILT FOR YEARS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE EPA DOES FRIDAY. THAT'S BECAUSE NATURAL GAS IS SO CHEAP RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT REALLY ECONOMICAL TO BUILD COAL PLANTS." THAT'S RIGHT, LET'S EMPHASIZE THAT POINT: CHEAP NATURAL GAS HAS ALREADY MADE NEW COAL-FIRED POWER PLANTS UNCOMPETITIVE. And that's HIGHLY likely to continue, given the boom in natural gas production in this country. Here's Wonkblog:

      Roughly speaking, natural gas prices needs to rise above $7 per million BTU for new coal plants to be competitive. But the U.S. Energy Information Administration projects that natural gas prices will stay under $6 per million BTU for the next two decades. As a result, the agency doesn't think any coal plants will be built between 2018 and 2035.

      That's one reason why an earlier draft of the EPA power-plant rule predicted that the regulations for new power plants would have virtually no costs in the near term. After all, no new coal plants were likely to get built in the United States anyway. So the EPA rule won't make much difference one way or the other. Unless, of course, natural gas prices rise unexpectedly - something that's happened in the past.

      Did you hear that, Ken Cuccinelli and Mark Obenshain? THAT'S RIGHT: NATURAL GAS IS OUT-COMPETING COAL (IT'S CALLED "CAPITALISM," EVER HEAR OF IT, KEN AND MARK?); AND BECAUSE OF THAT, "NO NEW COAL PLANTS WERE LIKELY TO GET BUILT IN THE UNITED STATES ANYWAY." NONE. ZERO. NADA. ZILCH. SO WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU HYPERVENTILATING ABOUT AGAIN?

      3. Coal-fired power plants are also increasingly not competitive with clean energy. As Secretary of Energy Ernest Moniz explains, we are undergoing a "clean energy revolution - now." Did you know, for instance, that in 2012, "wind was America's largest source of new electrical capacity, accounting for 43 percent of all new installations?" Did you know that since 2008, "the price of solar panels has fallen by 75 percent, and solar installations have multiplied tenfold?" Did you know that "[r]enewable energy is becoming more and more competitive, to the point now that new generation from wind costs less than conventional coal-fired generation -- and can even give natural gas a run for its money?" (see above graph from Greentech Media on the steeply falling cost and rapidly increased deployment of wind power)

      4. If you're a dumb enough investor to put money into new coal-fired power plants, even as they are being out-competed by natural gas and, increasingly, wind and solar (not to mention energy efficiency, which demolishes new coal-fired power plants purely on economic grounds), the fact is that coal plants can still be built under the EPA regulations. But again, you'd be really, really dumb to build one, given that they are not the lowest-cost option to generate power, and given that the trend lines are all moving in the wrong direction - for coal, that is.

      5. Research shows that far from being an economic positive for coal-producing regions, "[c]oal mining areas fared significantly worse on all indicators compared with non-mining areas of Appalachia and/or the nation." That's in terms of median household income, poverty rates, unemployment, disease and mortality rates, you name it. The question is, why would anyone in their right mind want to invest in something that kills jobs, humans, and the environment, especially when it's not even economically competitive with other options (natural gas, energy efficiency, wind, and increasingly solar power)? You'd have to be an ignoramus, right? Speaking of which...hello Ken Cuccinelli and Mark Obenshain? Any response to these facts? Or are you just going to keep on hyperventilating and making s*** up?

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

      • 1 Reply to elk_1l
      • Elk, have you been watching your electric bill go up,, well you ain't seen notten yet,, and the war on coal has killed towns, jobs and the families in those towns have lost it all,, and with the new regulations, most current coal plants will close,, how are you going to keep the grids going,, oh yes, and Obutthead gave himself executive power to shut down grids and to channel power where he wants,, it's coming and you in NY will be in the dark,,
        C

        Sentiment: Hold

    • O BURNS BIG COAL (for craig)

      Obama Takes On Coal With First-Ever Carbon Limits

      DINA CAPPIELLO | 09/19/13 | HuffPost

      WASHINGTON — THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WILL PRESS AHEAD FRIDAY WITH TOUGH REQUIREMENTS FOR NEW COAL-FIRED POWER PLANTS, MOVING TO IMPOSE FOR THE FIRST TIME STRICT LIMITS ON THE POLLUTION BLAMED FOR GLOBAL WARMING.

      THE PROPOSAL WOULD HELP RESHAPE WHERE AMERICANS GET ELECTRICITY, AWAY FROM A COAL-DEPENDENT PAST INTO A FUTURE FIRED BY CLEANER SOURCES OF ENERGY. IT'S ALSO A KEY STEP IN PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA'S GLOBAL WARMING PLANS, BECAUSE IT WOULD HELP END WHAT HE CALLED "THE LIMITLESS DUMPING OF CARBON POLLUTION" FROM POWER PLANTS.

      Although the proposed rule won't immediately affect plants already operating, it eventually would force the government to limit emissions from the existing power plant fleet, which accounts for a third of all U.S. greenhouse gas emissions. Obama has given the Environmental Protection Agency until next summer to propose those regulations.

      The EPA provided The Associated Press with details of the proposal prior to the official announcement, which was expected Friday morning. The public will have a chance to comment on the rule before it becomes final.

      DESPITE SOME TWEAKS, THE RULE PACKS THE SAME PUNCH AS ONE ANNOUNCED LAST YEAR, WHICH WAS WIDELY CRITICIZED BY INDUSTRY AND REPUBLICANS AS EFFECTIVELY BANNING ANY NEW COAL PROJECTS IN THE U.S.

      That's because to meet the standard, new coal-fired power plants would need to install expensive technology to capture carbon dioxide and bury it underground. No coal-fired power plant has done that yet, in large part because of the cost. And those plants that the EPA points to as potential models, such as a coal plant being built in Kemper County, Miss., by Southern Co., have received hundreds of millions of dollars in federal grants and tax credits.

      Coal, which is already struggling to compete with cheap natural gas, accounts for 40 percent of U.S. electricity, a share that was already shrinking. And natural gas would need no additional pollution controls to comply.

      "For power producers and coal mining companies that reject these standards, they have no reason to complain, and every excuse to innovate," said Sen. Ed Markey, D-Mass., the author of a 2009 bill to limit global warming. The legislation, backed by the White House, passed the House, but died in the Senate.

      A powerful Republican opponent of the EPA plan, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, said in an emailed statement that "the president is leading a war on coal."

      The regulations have been in the works since 2011 and stem from a 1970 law passed by Congress to control air pollution. In 2007, the Supreme Court ruled that that law, the Clean Air Act, could be applied to heat-trapping pollution. The EPA already has issued rules aimed at curbing global warming pollution from automobiles and the largest industrial sources.

      An EPA official told the AP that the rule doesn't specify any particular technology. But the official acknowledged that carbon capture was the only current technology available for a company to meet the threshold of 1,100 pounds of carbon dioxide emissions per megawatt hour of electricity. To put that in perspective, a modern coal plant without carbon controls would release about 1,800 pounds per megawatt hour.

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • Our democrat senator Joe Manchin is now at war with BO,, "why do I have to fight this president and my govt just to keep from killing my state",, but, that nit wit Rockerfeller cannot be found, he is retiring, In reality, I don't remember one dam thing he has done for our state, only for his own agenda, alas, almost 20 years ago, I helped to open one of the first FQHC clinic in the state and he just had to have a photo op with my team,, not much substance that I remember and he was smelly,,
      Now Joe on the other hand is a go getter, he lives beside my uncle and my father had a fund raiser for him when he was running for senator, he did have a lot of nerve kissing my wife at that event,, nice guy otherwise and was a god governor for our state as well,,
      C

      Sentiment: Hold

      • 1 Reply to craigsswanndo
      • Rockefeller is a poor little rich boy who never had to work a day in his privileged life. Politics is a hobby for him.

        Manchin is a Democrat through and through who has to feign outrage because The Dear Leader's coal policy is destroying his state but if this weren't happening Manchin would be on the messiah's bandwagon beating the drum. Just look at his voting record. He voted straight party line on the amnesty bill and we have not heard a peep out of him on all of the scandals. He is just another s:c:u:m bag opportunistic socialist politician.

        Sentiment: Buy

    • For the dumb shiet that gave a thumbs down, may you be the first to loose your lights, heat and not be able to put a thumbs down cause there aint no power to run your computer,, how the fk do you think we are going to run this countries power grids,, the infrastructure to run wind, solar are not there,, its like cut off your nose to spite your face,, the man is a total boob,, the poor man is screw*ed, he will have to cut a lot of wood,, in my town, that is just the process, many are stocking piling wood to burn in their woodstoves for the winter,, that will be clean,, NNNNOOOOTTTT,,
      C

      Sentiment: Hold

    • For some reason the Democrats/Socialists in this country hate the idea that we will become energy independent and are doing everything in their power to stop it.

      Sentiment: Buy

    • C, this guy has been in over his head from the get go but, I don't have to tell you that. Instead of maturing and learning from his past mistakes he gets worse. It is hard to believe this nation has turned to that kind of leadership. His energy program iis a disaster and what he plans to do to coal is almost criminal. I believe that deep down, he has no love for this country and, if he hadn't sealed his records, his past may have shown it. Just my opinion but I can only go on his actions. You know, it's a shame that the hopes of the black people come true and a black rises to be president of this great nation only to go down in history as its worst president. Sad, but this is a distinct possibility.

    • there systematicly changing the fundamentals of our nation ... when they leagalize 11 million boarder jumpers and they now are eligable for welfare, food stamps, medical ,dental, etc... throw on obamacare costs that will hit the workers of this country not the free loaders ... the only way i see it is a new revalution to take back the country ... dark days ahead how this monkey got elected in the first place is mind boggling , let alone a second term ... the working man is f'ed in this country

 
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