Remember when The Dear Leader offered his solution to cutting back on our oil imports. His solution was to keep
your tires properly inflated and he wanted everyone to carry a tire gage. While prpoerly inflated tires do save
gas, that was one lame solution form the smartest man in the world.
Well keep's solution is to buy cfls and led lights. I have had cfls in my house for 20 years but that is a drop in
the bucket and certainly is not a long term solution to our energy problems. New technology isn't here yet and may
be decades away. We have been working on fusion since the 50s and aren't much closer to attaining fusion energy
than we were in the 1950s.
Solar panels are very expensive and according to a friend who sells them they begin to deteriorate almost
immediately and give diminishing returns. For example they will start giving you less and less electricity per
panel each year. Panel deterioration, like anything else left out in the sun, solar panels gradually become damaged
by ultraviolet radiation. Rain, snow, dirt, temperature fluctuations, hail and wind also pose serious hazards.
A medium sized system to provide power to a small or very energy efficient house might cost $25,000 and a solar
system to power a large house could cost $50,000+. The more kwh you install on your roof the cheaper it will be for
each watt of electricity. Up to 2009, the cost was approximately 6.50 to $7.50 per watt of solar electricity.
According to these numbers a 1kWh system will cost $6500 to $7500.
Typically the payback period for a solar installation that powers the majority of your household is roughly 17
years, assuming that your current utility grade electricity is 15 cents a kilowatt hour. My cost for 1kwh is 8.5
cents so it would take me over 30 years to break even. I'll be dead by then.
Keep gives his other pie in the sky solution to fossil fuels, electric cars. I believe some day we may have
feasible electric cars, maybe in a few decades but not now.
What does keep think powers electric cars? Coal powered plants that's what. Electricity has to come from somewhere
not from loony left hopes and wishes, that's for sure. Also if all the cars in the US were somehow converted by
loony left magic to electric cars, the power grid would shut down. We will ,therefore, have to have more fossil
fuel power plants to provide electricity for expensive, limited range electric cars.
Now let's address the battery problems:
You can replace lead-acid batteries with NiMH batteries. The range of the car will double and the batteries will
last 10 years (thousands of charge/discharge cycles), but the cost of the batteries today is 10 to 15 times greater
than lead-acid. In other words, an NiMH battery pack will cost $20,000 to $30,000 (today) instead of $2,000. Prices
for advanced batteries fall as they become mainstream, so over the next several years it is likely that NiMH and
lithium-ion battery packs will become competitive with lead-acid battery prices. Electric cars will have
significantly better range at that point.
When you look at the problems associated with batteries, you gain a different perspective on gasoline. Two gallons
of gasoline, which weighs 15 pounds, costs $8.00 and takes 30 seconds to pour into the tank, is equivalent to 1,000
pounds of lead-acid batteries that cost $2,000 and take four hours to recharge.
The problems with battery technology explain why there is so much excitement around fuel cells today. Compared to
batteries, fuel cells will be smaller, much lighter and instantly rechargeable. When powered by pure hydrogen, fuel
cells have none of the environmental problems associated with gasoline. It is very likely that the car of the
future will be an electric car that gets its electricity from a fuel cell. There is still a lot of research and
development that will have to occur, however, before inexpensive, reliable fuel cells can power automobiles. Again
we are looking at decades of research before we have a cheap, working fuel cell.
Also battery disposal is a big problem. If we have a couple on hundred million of expended batteries to dispose of
the topic waste problem is not only monumental it is horrendous to the environment. And I though the loons go weak
in the knees when talking about the environment but I guess that doesn't bother keep in his simplistic not well
thought out argument.
Someday we will have a green, inexpensive energy sources but not today and until we do have a viable alternative
source what do the loons like keep suggest we use for energy?
I see that keep has not given me a well thought out, factual point by point rebuttal. In fact none of the loons have.
elk has done what he always does, change the subject. All of this means they can' rebut me and this proves my point that loons live in La La Land not the land of reality. Reality hurts their heads.
Catt,, I remember that tire gage thing, pretty funny and sad at the same time,, a peak of stupidity in solving the worlds problems,,
The battery thing could be almost as bad as nuclear material disposal,,
The electric car thing cracks me up when you talk to a total idiot lib when they think that electricity to run the dam things comes by magic,,
And I'm telling you that folks could be forced to burn wood AND coal to keep warm if the war on fossil fuels continues,, That will pollute more than coal ever did,,
And you are right,, green energy will come in time and will be better for all, but, time is the key,, it does not happen over night and America will still need fossil fuel until that time,, but there are some people that do not have the capacity to under stand this,,
Doc, the loons live in their own little fantasy world and I really believe facts make them nervous. It is all emotion and touchy feely. I also believe they are perpetually angry and unhappy. They are hard wired this way. In short, they can't help being ignoramuses.