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  • elk_1l elk_1l May 7, 2014 9:55 PM Flag

    OT: SPEAKING OF GUNS

    SPEAKING OF GUNS

    by digby | Hullabaloo | 5/7/2014

    When I wrote my piece below about the freedom loving citizens whose loaded guns force the rest of us to kow tow or risk being shot, I hadn't read this:

    Speaking at a rally in Iowa for Republican Senate candidate Sam Clovis on Friday, Gohmert recalled that he had initially been blamed after Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC) had shouted “You lie!” during President Barack Obama’s State of the Union Address in 2009.

    “Somebody yells ‘You lie!’ and the camera goes on me!” he told the crowd, adding that he “knew” the president wasn’t telling the truth about an immigration bill.

    “And so Joe was right,” Gohmert continued. “That’s not how a country goes forward effectively, with a leader that will play those kinds of games. You know, truth is too important.”

    The Texas Republican then pointed to an 1798 John Adams quote: “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

    “It only is fit for people who cling to their God and their guns, you know?” Gohmert offered as an interpretation to the delight of the crowd. “So, it is deeply troubling if you get in these tough situations and you can’t trust your leadership.”

    There you have it.

    I don't think the people who carry loaded weapons around in public necessarily believe that. They just don't care about those who feel it makes their already tenuous lives more dangerous and certainly less free. When someone is armed it makes it impossible to engage them in the kind of heated and contentious debate that's required for a free society --- and guaranteed by the constitution Louis Gohmert believes was only written for people like him.

    Gohmert is a fool, we all know that. But he blurted out a truth nonetheless: the people who insist on being armed as a "demonstration" or a "protest" are using the second amendment to quell dissent. And they are forcing unarmed law abiding citizens to behave in different ways toward them than they behave with others --- less freedom for them, more for the gun owners. Once you put convenient, lethal force in the mix, liberty becomes a zero sum game.


    FREEDOM TO SAY YESSIR

    by digby

    My piece at Salon today is about the open-carry zealots:

    Imagine you’re sitting in a restaurant and a loud group of armed men come through the door. They are ostentatiously displaying their weapons, making sure that everyone notices them. Would you feel safe or would you feel in danger? Would you feel comfortable confronting them ? If you owned the restaurant could you ask them to leave? These are questions that are facing more and more Americans in their everyday lives as “open carry” enthusiasts descend on public places ostensibly for the sole purpose of exercising their constitutional right to do it. It just makes them feel good, apparently.

    It makes them feel free. How about you?

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

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    • Gunfight Rules

      In a gunfight, the most important rule is ..... HAVE A GUN!!!
      Here is some shooting advice from various Concealed Carry Instructors. If you own a gun, you will appreciate these rules... If not, you should get one and learn how to use it -- and learn the rules:

      RULES:

      A -- Guns have only two enemies: rust and politicians.

      B -- It's always better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

      C -- Cops carry guns to protect themselves, not you.

      D -- Never let someone or something that threatens you get inside arm's length

      E -- Never say "I've got a gun." If you need to use deadly force, the first sound they hear should be the safety clicking off.

      F -- The average response time of a 911 call is 23 minutes; the response time of a ..357 magnum is 1400 feet per second.

      G -- The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win - a gunfight is a deadly struggle -- there is no such thing as a fair fight, so cheat if necessary.

      H -- Make your attacker advance through a wall of bullets ... You may get killed with your own gun, but he'll have to beat you to death with it, 'cause it will be empty.

      I -- If you're in a gun fight:
      If you're not shooting, you should be loading.
      If you're not loading, you should be moving.
      If you're not moving, you're dead.

      J -- In a life and death situation, do something ... it may be wrong, but do something!

      K -- If you carry a gun, people may call you paranoid. Nonsense! If you have a gun, what do you have to be paranoid about?

      L -- You can say 'stop' or any other word, but a large bore muzzle pointed at someones head is pretty much a universal language.

      M -- Never leave an enemy behind. If you have to shoot, shoot to kill. If you end up in court, yours will be the only testimony.

      N -- You cannot save the planet, but you may be able to save yourself and your family.

      And always remember this quote from America 's premier Founding Father:
      "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading"

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • History shows more mass killings and genocides have been performed in recent centuries by uniformed goons serving state interests so maybe you should worry more about them. Of course, if you never picked up a history book or you're just an avid cool-aid drinker you probably don't agree with that.

 
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