I think what Bob is getting at is the domination of the market by the "Big Money" which whipsaws the small investor until he/she can't take the roller coaster. I agree with Bob. This isn't investing anymore. This is like being at a Vegas craps table. Fundamentals? Don't mean a damn thing to share price. Technicals? Largely irrelevant to the "fast money" types. Buy n hold? Largely impossible to use now that the con artists and whores are running things.