This is how the jews con the public by their propaganda.
<<<You are talking out of your ass now and have no idea what you are saying. Here is a documented record of all Palestinians hurt, killed and jailed over the years. All known Palestinians that is. Less than 50 Israelis have died from Palestinian terrorist attacks annualy since 1948. They use terror as an excuse just like Bush did for Iraq.>>>
Bush went into Iraq after Saddam refused to open up for years to full UN inspections and Bush made up nothing. UN weapons reports showed the number of weapons Saddam had in the early 90s vs what he destroyed. UN, French and MI6 reports all showed that Saddam had. Whether they were shipped to Syria, Lybia or hidden underground or never existed but were documented - we still had to invade based on the facts given by world Intel at hand. Saddam had a million chances to open to full inspections (not small groups who had to give him their schedules in advance).
As far as I know the amount of terror attacks increased a lot over the past few years so rounding them off from 1948 is like rounding off all terror attacks on the US to how often they were since 1776 or even since WW2.
And again - the only place I could find that documented the aid to Israel being 1/3 of all aid took the total of all aid given them from 1949-97 and compared that to the aid given each year. That's spin.
Now - Let's all do well today with SLW.
"The foreign aide part intrigued me so I did a search. The only source I found that says aid to Israel is 1/3 of all US aide combines the aide given from 1949-1997. That's spin - aid to any country we're assisting, if calculated accordingly, would add up to something similar."
What the hell are you talking about? No other country gets near 3 billion a year reported foreign aid. How is that spin? Give me a break. 3 billion a year and then the DoD contracts and loans.
"and I can't see how brutality was the cause of a quick victory in the 60s"
Of coarse not, I never did in the states either. Leave the States and a defferent picture will be painted. One not so Christian/Zionist friendly.
"if anything spending time wiping out locals would be counterproductive to a military advance)."
Uh no, the palestinians were impending there advance and Sharon was a butcher. He was the first to put them down. And they still butcher them today in response of a car bomb or terrorist attack.
"but the amount that hurt Palestinians is few - similar in number to nutjob cops who hurt Blacks."
You are talking out of your ass now and have no idea what you are saying. Here is a documented record of all Palestinians hurt, killed and jailed over the years. All known Palestinians that is. Less than 50 Israelis have died from Palestinian terrorist attacks annualy since 1948. They use terror as an excuse just like Bush did for Iraq.
It's not a secret that Israel recieves over a 3rd of foriegn aid. Call the state department. THey will tell you. What they won't tell you about is the DoD contracts and the loans. The Matter of of Israel recieving a 3rd of foreign aid is a matter of public revord. Call your congressman. Je will tell you. I'm not defending Arafat.
The foreign aide part intrigued me so I did a search. The only source I found that says aid to Israel is 1/3 of all US aide combines the aide given from 1949-1997. That's spin - aid to any country we're assisting, if calculated accordingly, would add up to something similar.
I also read some - not all yet - of your links and checked them with cross references. From other references it seems that the Israelis had war declared on them in 1948 (if the surrounding countries had left them alone there would have been a Palestinian state) and I can't see how brutality was the cause of a quick victory in the 60s - never mind that there are no reports of this except in select cities (which were horrendous but isolated and not the cause of victory as you write), if anything spending time wiping out locals would be counterproductive to a military advance).
Any Israeli that hurts a Palestinian without cause is a piece of s#!* and needs to be dealt with but the amount that hurt Palestinians is few - similar in number to nutjob cops who hurt Blacks. It seems that Sharon was a brute and should have been controlled and never have had a position in government - but that's him and his few extremists. Far less than the extremism and the violence coming from the other side.
How could you say that the Israelis are to blame for the poor Palestinian leadership? Arafat was the only rabble rouser for decades. He was corrupt and his people suffered needlessly for it. They were offered peace so many times. The Palestinian people wanted it and do want it but Arafat supported training of suicide bombers instead and refused to negotiate a final settlement even when offered 90% of what he wanted. The Israelis aren't responsible for that.
Ignorant? What you spout is a load of crap. The Palestinians had their land sieged from them in 1948 and stood up and fought for it. They never stood a chance against the Jew. And what the Jews did was an atrocity. Sharon led his men into the occupied territories in the early 60's declared to his leaders at the time that he would have the Palestinians under control in 2 weeks. That was a feat thought impossible before he marched his soldiers in. How did he keep true to his word? Murder and sheer brutality. How many innocents did he kill. Well if you read the links I provided you would see. They are reputable sources and are fact. Have the Palestinians been plagued by terrible leadership? Yes. This is because Israel would have it no other way. Israel has always dealt from a posistion of power, while the Palestinians have been left with nothing.This is fact not opinion. Per Capita you say? Too bad the jews sent over 6 million palestinians packing to other surrounding countries after they were done killing and bulldozing houses that those palestinians still hold the deeds to to this very day. You are a typical American stcuk inside the media driven box that has become America, and your per capita palestinian aid crap is pure bull
"Secondly, what's wrong with supporting Israel? Its a wonderful country with civil liberties and protections equal only to the United States. Arabs in Israel have a BETTER STANDARD OF LIVING, AND HIGHER RIGHTS per capita than in any other Middle Eastern nation."
If Israel has such a high standard of living and is so great why do they recieve over a 3rd of our foriegn aid? Answer that. If they are so great they don't need it right? Meanwhile Africa is beyond the point of no return and the Paestinians get nothing. It is you who is ignorant and your logic is flawed.
First off, per capita NO GROUP IN THE WORLD HAS RECEIVED AS MUCH AID AS THE PALESTINIANS.
Secondly, what's wrong with supporting Israel? Its a wonderful country with civil liberties and protections equal only to the United States. Arabs in Israel have a BETTER STANDARD OF LIVING, AND HIGHER RIGHTS per capita than in any other Middle Eastern nation.
Muslims consider the Middle East to be THEIR land. They also consider SPAIN to be their land. Just because they kill repeatedly in the name of god, where other nations can live in peace with neighbors, doesn't mean Israel is wrong.
If I hold a gun to your head you don't obey me, it doesn't make YOU wrong for not obeying me. But in the Middle East, the Arabs cause the violence and then blame Israel for making them do it.
Please. Don't be so ignorant.
There is no peace on Earth as long is there is Islam. Europe is learning that lesson the hard way. If you don't believe me, just watch as France descends into hell over the next few years.
"When you want to find out who is in charge, find out who it is that you cannot criticize."
Well, since its profoundly *no*t okay to criticize *any* ethnic group, then I guess everyone's in charge.
Jesus, you're a moron.
Yep and no lobby in Washington or America strikes fear into a politician more than the Jewish lobby. We give them over 20,000 dollars per Israeli citizen. And most of the money isn't even reported as it is in DoD contracts passed in bills that have nothing to do with defense or Israel. The other money is in loans that we forgive eventually. Someone on here said that Israel doesn't owe the US a thing. What a crock of
If this is the Jews conning the public then why was a retraction issued? The source doesn't seem to be a Hebrew (ex-lawmaker quoted as source) so I doubt this is some sort of conspiracy.
In other news ABC says the DOJ is investigating Hastert and then the Justice Department says that's news to them.
A rush to print and reliance on idiots.
I wouldn't even be surprised if everybody's favorite paid basher is behind all this. lol
No need . A little Krav Magra is all I need. Besides I just wanted to talk to him and ask why he was so happy to have solid advice from and take advantage of all the hard DD others of us did when some of us are whiny Jews. I mean for a guy that did zero DD and got whacked the day he bought and has consistently been on here looking for help understanding this stock, company, and the PM markets he is down right ungrateful to say the least. I suppose listening to a whiny Jew is Ok as long as it is helpful. So he's a bigot and a hypocrite. Now I am going to go have some chopped liver and matzoh ball soup to steady my nerves. Then I am going to shoot pool with my black, Mexican, Irish, European and assorted other friends. I will be at Q's on Wilshire in West LA if he cares to come on by. I am there till 7 or so. Maybe we can discuss his lack of humanity with some UCLA (sorry crd) students that may enlighten him about how racism hurts the racist most.