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  • yourdeadmeat69 yourdeadmeat69 Dec 27, 2012 4:09 PM Flag

    The market's Craaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiingggggggggggg

    For fiscal cliffers, the "only" thing is as onerous as taxes is death, and while both are inevitable, they don't have to hurt as badly as you'd think.

    The hidden agenda in all of this budget nonsense, is spend. Both parties spend and spend.

    Now the two subsets of this "given" have their adherents, and I belong in neither camp.

    I am not in the camp, and quite frankly, I don't know why we should be, of the folks who tax and spend.

    I am also, no matter how likeable and affable the Presidential speaker, of the mindset that borrow and spend, which became popular as if it were a good thing, during those wonderful years we quadrupled the national debt (that's 400%) defeating Russkies already bankrupt by the military arms race, around 1978. 1978 is when I began herding battalions of Army troops home from Germany by the droves, because "the war was over". 2 years before. Yet we quadrupled the national debt. Not fifty percent. 400%. If you don't think that happened, well, there you go again.

    So I've proposed some modest changes in the spend side, that might help, no matter whether you get the money from the poor and middle class, where most comes from, or you borrow it from a gullible world that thinks you're the cats pajamas and your money is real too.

    Go back to a conscription service where three to four years was compulsory. That way you can cut the pay and benefits for uniforms and snivel servants back to days when we won wars. About 2/3rds the budget would go away. Who knows, patriotism you don't have to buy!! What a novelty!!

    Bring home the Navy and Army overseas, and quit thinking it's WWII 1946. We're not wanted, we're not needed, and we're going bankrupt. That's why we have nukes. For bad guys that just don't get it. There goes another 1/3rd that needless waste of a budget.

    Take the CIA out of meddling with the Muddle East so we don't have blowback. There's a war there, let's not sow the seeds for the next one SADDAM style.

    Let's get free of oil dependence 40 years overdue. A hybrid in every garage. An oil line down from our buddies in Canada. You know way up north.

    Let's put solar panel heating in every home with a sun exposure and take some pressure off the grid. Now there's a subsidy worth having, until we get to economies of scale. There's a place where govt can help if they vet the firms competently, albeit a big if.

    Let's put our money on the original path it had when the founding fathers were around. Backed by silver and gold, not deflated into the toilet so we're all millionaires who need that million to buy a cup of coffee.

    See how that might work?

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    • You are making too much sense!

    • Military spending accounts for about 20% of the budget; not 67%. The biggest spending is for social programs (SS, Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, etc.).

    • You make way too much sense..

    • “…Let's get free of oil dependence 40 years overdue. A hybrid in every garage. An oil line down from our buddies in Canada. You know way up north.

      Let's put solar panel heating in every home with a sun exposure and take some pressure off the grid. Now there's a subsidy worth having, until we get to economies of scale. There's a place where govt can help if they vet the firms competently, albeit a big if. …?”

      Without dealing with the rest of what you’ve written, that statement places you in the nether world of complete ignorance. EVERY ONE of these government funded solar project either has gone broke, or is on the verge of doing so, at taxpayers’ expense.

      As for hybrids, those are for the tree huggers, and those that don’t mind being squashed by a 10 wheeler, or a 90’s style SUV.

      Isn’t the country broke enough for you? Or are you opining for the day when hyperinflation finally forces the issue of returning to honest money by wishing for even more of the stupid, or is it the deliberately destructive, spending of the political elite? While some benefit under a hyperinflationary environment, vast numbers of your countrymen will not, and many could suffer starvation, not to mention the snowballing effect worldwide. The upshot of all of that could well be widespread civil disorder in a world where US drones could be turned against the people that paid their taxes to develop them.

      If you would just calm down and consider that there may be developments in the pipeline (non-solar, by the way) that would negate the reliance on Middle East oil and send the whole lot of them back to either becoming camel drivers or accepting civilized behavior. None of this requires nukes, and would force the issue of bringing the military home as unneeded horrendous expenses that not even the military industrial complex could oppose. The return to honest money would also be guaranteed since all of this funny counterfeit money has arisen out of militarism. Governments would automatically lose their relevance and power. People would therefore be in a position to demand, or practice civil disobedience on the issue of what amounts to counterfeit “legal” tender.

 
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