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  • stockboardguy stockboardguy Apr 17, 2013 10:47 PM Flag

    I Know, FACTS DON'T Matter To The Butt Buddy Bond Boys, But Lets Pretend They Do, Shall We?!

    Hi boys and girls.

    According to the Yahoos on Yahoo, Facts do NOT Matter.

    They consider FACTS THEIR OPINIONS, AND CALL THEM FACTS!!!

    But we all know opinions are like ___holes, EVERYONE has one.

    Here are the FACTS, and there is NO disputing them:

    1) Patent sale- sealed.
    2) Camera deal- sealed.
    3) DI deal- SHB- will it go through?
    4) PI deal- nothing yet.
    5) UK deal- nothing yet.
    6)OPEB- 1.2 billion liability- reduced to 635 million, then sold for $70 Million. Whats the real cost to settle this?
    7) Other 16 Projects that have NOT been announced.
    8) Unipixel deal- no idea what the margins are on this deal, and how much market share they will have.
    9) Other deals that have NOT been announced.

    Well guys, these are the FACTS, and they are UNDISPUTED!

    Lets hear what the Butt Buddy Bond Boys have to say!!!

    SBG

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

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    • The biggest fact of all: Kodak management, led by CRIMINAL named Perez wants to STEAL a piece of a greatly undervalued Kodak.

      When the EBITDA is only estimated at a couple hundred $$ million for next year, there is NO way to cover $3 billion in liabilities. Even if you run the company with ZERO cash, there will still be at least $1 billion of liabilities.....

      There is NO way that shareholders have any equity when the liabilities canNOT be covered by cash flow.

      If you had an REAL understanding of the CRIMINALS running Kodak, then you would realize that they do not want to help current shareholders....

      The criminals at Kodak ONLY want to take as much as they can get.

      The ONLY way the CRIMINALS can steal a large piece of Kodak for themselves is to CANCEL the old stock, and issue NEW shares to themselves.

      LOOK at almost any public company ch.11 that tries to emerge independently, where there is NEGATIVE equity, and you will see almost the exact same outcome.

      AMR had HUGE cash flow after greatly reducing their cost structure, while their revenues remained.

      Kodak has pathetic cash flow in relation to their liabilities.....

      Therefore there is NO equity in Kodak!!!!

      Therefore, management wants to take equity in the new company at a very low valuation... so they can profit after the NEW controlling shareholders sell out the company for 3 times the emerging value.

      • 1 Reply to viclobserver
      • "... The criminals at Kodak ONLY want to take as much as they can get. ..."

        10 months ago: "Pro" FULLY SUPPORTING the vision (I guess myopic) of Kodak's hardworking BOD.

        by the_kodak_pro•Jun 2, 2012 9:07 PMFlag
        ".. The Kodak BOD made the courageous choice to work their tales off for appx. 9 months, so they and other long term shareholders(key officers) could MAXIMIZE the long term value of the common shares.
        ...
        I do NOT blame you for NOT understanding, because practically NOBODY else does either.
        ...
        Kodak could have accomplished most of the same restructuring results without going into ch.11.
        ….
        It makes PERFECT sense to me that the Kodak BOD, does NOT want SHORT TERM thinking people having control of key decisions affecting the Equity of Kodak.
        ...
        The BOD feels that they are looking out for the LONG term interests of the LONG term shareholders.

        The shareholders of Kodak in general have very little understanding or patience for what the BOD has been over seeing for the last 8 years.

        I FULLY SUPPORT the vision of the BOD over the short term greedy view of the vast majority of UN informed shareholders. …”

    • 1) Patent sale- sealed. That was for how many billions? Enough to save the stock? Uh NO.

      2) Camera deal- sealed. That was for how much? Enough to save the stock? Uh NO.

      3) DI deal- SHB- will it go through? This is a question not a FACT.

      4) PI deal- nothing yet. True, will it be enough to meet the Jr DIP loan provision?

      5) UK deal- nothing yet. But we do know that Kodak has already said it doesn't have enough money to meet this obligation. Where will the money come from?

      6)OPEB- 1.2 billion liability- reduced to 635 million, then sold for $70 Million. Whats the real cost to settle this? Another Question.

      7) Other 16 Projects that have NOT been announced. If you say so. The FACT here might be that these never see the light of day. If they do how much will the cost to Kodak be?(Question)

      8) Unipixel deal- no idea what the margins are on this deal, and how much market share they will have. I believe that the FACT here is you have NO idea what this deal entails but your OPINION is that it will GREAT for Kodak.

      9) Other deals that have NOT been announced. To go along with the 16 deals that have NOT been announced, that makes a bunch of deals that have NOT been announced. What if,just sayin, some of the deals that have NOT been announced are to cancel out out some of the other deals that have NOT been announced, what would the FACTS be then?

      Well guys, these are the FACTS, and they are UNDISPUTED! Uh, Not so much and Not so much.

      What is a fact is that you don't know what "I leave you" means.
      Also it seems that you have some difficulty with what a FACT is.

    • kidkodak@ymail.com kidkodak Apr 17, 2013 11:01 PM Flag

      SBG, I love how excited you are about deals that have not yet been fulfilled, as if that means there is hope.
      I remember when you were waiting for the final sale price on the IP auction. How'd that work out? Everything else will work out just as well. Man, are you dumb! LMAO!

      • 1 Reply to kidkodak
      • Were going to see who dumb is Kid.

        BTW the Patent deal still has allot of meat on the bone.Tried to cut a bunch of data out, but the Google algorithms still had the data indexed, and if i would have removed any more data the message would have been lost.

        No big deal, I still have plenty of data that you are not privy to, because you clowns are LOSERS!

        "Regarding the Kodak transaction itself, Waxman told The Deal Pipeline that "an underappreciated part of this transaction is the licensing piece, and particularly the license to the rest of Kodak's portfolio that they weren't selling. The uses for the digital capture and image manipulation patents are pretty straightforward, but the rest of Kodak's portfolio was diverse and cut across a lot of people's other businesses. That's where the very diverse business interests of the parties made it a very complex transaction to pull together."

        You brain dead buffoon!!

        I told you, we own you!

        You PRO, Roger, Golden, Kid!

        SBG

        Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • kidkodak@ymail.com kidkodak Apr 17, 2013 11:00 PM Flag

      According to SBG, earnings and enterprise value do NOT matter. The only thing that matters is Common holders should remain intact because penny stock gamblers have incredible imaginations........

 
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